J_RFC87 762 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Ever the pessamist when it comes to international football, I can just see another Belarus 2005 effort coming up This 'wave of optimism' was arguble created by Scotland's results, but we have a wee wave when we beat Norway away, only to fall flat on the old face at home to Belarus. With key players injured, and the strikers not getting games at their clubs, coming up against formidable oppostion in:VaschukTymoschukNazarenkoRotanVoroninand not even mentioning Shevy.... The energy in the wave of optimism will run out. 1-2 Ukraine. That's it, Italy and France are pretty much guarenteed 6 points so we'll be pretty much out given the difficulty of our last 2 games. And everyone blames Eck who is, of course, a former Rangers manager, then everyone blames Walter for leaving who is the current Rangers manager. The tims will have a field day over this one. Let's hope to f*ck we get another flukey win and delay the abuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superally07 387 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Who the fuck cares what the tims or the rest of scottish football fans think to be honest mate should all be greatful to walter n eck for even getting them into contention. il be there on saturday hoping for a great result. But if we dont qualify - i will be proud of Scotland no matter what Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose_72 198 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 i think we can lose against ukraine on saturday and still qualify but we'll have to win our last 2 games of course. i thought you didnt care about the national side jadams? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_RFC87 762 Posted October 9, 2007 Author Share Posted October 9, 2007 Who the fuck cares what the tims or the rest of scottish football fans think to be honest mate should all be greatful to walter n eck for even getting them into contention. il be there on saturday hoping for a great result. But if we dont qualify - i will be proud of Scotland no matter what fair enough, but my point is of the now over-expectation Scotland fans now expect, from the media to the fans to the SFA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_RFC87 762 Posted October 9, 2007 Author Share Posted October 9, 2007 i think we can lose against ukraine on saturday and still qualify but we'll have to win our last 2 games of course. i thought you didnt care about the national side jadams? I've never said I don't care about Scotland, just that the impact it has on me doesn't come near to what a Rangers game does. Italy and France are playing the shiters, and are pretty much guarenteed to get 6 points. That means having to beat Georgia away and the world cup winners at home to qualify, if we get beat on Saturday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose_72 198 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 tbh i think any fan who is there on saturday(myself included) will know that the ukraine arent just a bunch of diddies. we know their dangermen well since they play in the premiership(and we know how good sheva was for milan and is for ukraine) but we have a great record at hampden over these bigger sides and i hope that will continue on saturday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I actually think we will turn over the Ukraine with a 3-0 victory to be honest, and this has nothing to do with the wave of optimism over recent results. In the last game against them they were lucky to beat us, some poor refereeing and cheating from Schevy and an unfair dismissal was what beat us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_RFC87 762 Posted October 9, 2007 Author Share Posted October 9, 2007 tbh i think any fan who is there on saturday(myself included) will know that the ukraine arent just a bunch of diddies. we know their dangermen well since they play in the premiership(and we know how good sheva was for milan and is for ukraine) but we have a great record at hampden over these bigger sides and i hope that will continue on saturday Only 2 Ukrainian players play in the Premiership. The rest play pretty much in the Ukrainian league. I hope to see it continue as well, but I can't see it. espicially if we employ the 4-5-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose_72 198 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 i think we can lose against ukraine on saturday and still qualify but we'll have to win our last 2 games of course. i thought you didnt care about the national side jadams? I've never said I don't care about Scotland, just that the impact it has on me doesn't come near to what a Rangers game does. Italy and France are playing the shiters, and are pretty much guarenteed to get 6 points. That means having to beat Georgia away and the world cup winners at home to qualify, if we get beat on Saturday georgia will be without kaladze and arveladze has retired so i am pretty confident we can get a result over there and with a packed hampden and us needing 3 points to qualify against the tallies, it isnt beyond possibilty that we would beat them. but of course i hope that we get the 6 points over ukraine and georgia but we KNOW it wont be easy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose_72 198 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 tbh i think any fan who is there on saturday(myself included) will know that the ukraine arent just a bunch of diddies. we know their dangermen well since they play in the premiership(and we know how good sheva was for milan and is for ukraine) but we have a great record at hampden over these bigger sides and i hope that will continue on saturday Only 2 Ukrainian players play in the Premiership. The rest play pretty much in the Ukrainian league. I hope to see it continue as well, but I can't see it. espicially if we employ the 4-5-1. when i said dangermen i was meaning voronin and shevchenko. but of course they have players like kalinichenko and tymoschuk who play in russia and they will be a threat aswell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superally07 387 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Who the fuck cares what the tims or the rest of scottish football fans think to be honest mate should all be greatful to walter n eck for even getting them into contention. il be there on saturday hoping for a great result. But if we dont qualify - i will be proud of Scotland no matter what fair enough, but my point is of the now over-expectation Scotland fans now expect, from the media to the fans to the SFA. Yeah a see ur point mate, however this time i think its a bit diffrent from the likes of when we beat holland We have now done it over a number of games and People WILL fear coming to play Scotland. And the media and stuff- i think its more a show of support than what it is down in england. were the media heep pressure on there national team. The likes of the sun ( i think it was ) had the bus in paris to lead the tartan army - all tht helps in my opinion Because its support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandangoman 0 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 if we qualify ill be an absolute ecstatic scotsman if we dont qualify, i know i can still hold my head up high an call myself proud to be a scot dont lose faith quite yet though, we pumped france in there backyard, lets keep it up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandangoman 0 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Who the fuck cares what the tims or the rest of scottish football fans think to be honest mate should all be greatful to walter n eck for even getting them into contention. il be there on saturday hoping for a great result. But if we dont qualify - i will be proud of Scotland no matter what fair enough, but my point is of the now over-expectation Scotland fans now expect, from the media to the fans to the SFA. Because its support. we have the best supporters in the world...mon the scotland :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Believe it or not technically we should be classed as favourites as we are ahead of them in the world rankings now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose_72 198 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 yeh when i get to my seat on saturday ill start to get quite nervous especially when the teams are announced! but it has been stressed to us before by big eck and co how important us fans are at hampden and i hope we play our part on saturday. one thing is for sure, hampden is going to be bouncing! :bouncy: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Believe it or not technically we should be classed as favourites as we are ahead of them in the world rankings now! And we're top of the group. Maybe im just scared of the glorious demise we're so used to in scotland I know it has been such a long time when we could be filled with confidence, but I think this time it isn't a flash in the pan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 My heart agrees with you. Also a good sign...my pal has a feeling we're gonna win. He said France would beat us..and then just before kick-off and turned to me and said "we wont lose this". And against lyon i got a text from 2 mins before kick off saying "rangers wont lose tonight" He's told me scotland wont lose on saturday... Can you ask him to pick my lottery numbers... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_RFC87 762 Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 is the game on Sky? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper 182 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 is the game on Sky? Yes..................thankfully. Apparently all of the qualifying games thta have been on sky we have won. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandangoman 0 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 the game is on sky sports 1, at half past 2. well at least thats wen the programme starts, kickoff will be at 3pm i shall be in the pub singing my heart out since i couldnt even get 1 ticket for myself for the game, gutted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose_72 198 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 is the game on Sky? Yes..................thankfully. Apparently all of the qualifying games thta have been on sky we have won. and every game we have taken the lead in we have won Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_RFC87 762 Posted October 12, 2007 Author Share Posted October 12, 2007 I think that one of the interesting aspects to the remainder of Scotland's campaign is how they handle raised expectations, both from their supporters and within the squad itself. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/i...als/7039202.stm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delparlane 5,986 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Got to keep the faith and believe we can nick a result, but not get too carried away either (remember the lesson learned by us all from Ally MacLeod - stay quiet and get the result first, THEN do your talking). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Deacon 57,214 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Did anyone see the sun today the article about the Ukranian-Scots?? If you did the guy on the front row Alex Demianczuk is one of my mates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff 245 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Working so will miss the game, might get the 2nd half? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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