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Rangers waiting on European draw

Rangers are among four British and Irish clubs in the hat for Tuesday's draw for the early qualifying rounds of next season's Champions League.

The draw for the first and second rounds will take place at 1100 BST.

Wales' Llanelli AFC, Northern Ireland's Linfield FC and Drogheda United from the Republic are also in the draw.

Linfield, Llanelli and Drogheda all start the tournament in the first qualifying round but Rangers do not come in until the second round.

Rangers boss Walter Smith said his players were already well into the swing of pre-season training with the vital qualifying matches on the horizon.

"Our pre-season is very similar to last year and we felt that was an excellent preparation," Smith told the club website.

"A couple of weeks of training supplies the running and the hard work that has to be done.

"We'll then play our three friendlies abroad and a few more at home and then we are straight into the Champions League qualifiers after that."

The ties for all the qualifying rounds are played over two legs. The first round of qualifying gets under way on 15 July, while the second round kicks off on 29 July.

2008-09 Champions League entrants:

England: Manchester United, Chelsea (both group); Arsenal, Liverpool (both third qualifying round)

Northern Ireland: Linfield FC (Q1)

Scotland: Celtic (group); Rangers (Q2)

Wales: Llanelli AFC (Q1)

Republic of Ireland: Drogheda United FC (Q1)

Spain: Real Madrid, Villarreal (group); Barcelona, Atletico Madrid (Q3)

Italy: Inter Milan, Roma (group); Juventus, Fiorentina (Q3)

France: Lyon, Bordeaux (group); Marseille (Q3)

Germany: Bayern Munich, Werder Bremen (group); Schalke (Q3)

Portugal: Porto, Sporting Lisbon (group); Vitoria SC (Q3)

Romania: CFR Cluj (group); Steau Bucharest (Q3)

Holland: PSV Eindhoven (group); FC Twente (Q3)

Russia: Zenit St. Petersburg (group); Spartak Moscow (Q3)

Ukraine: Shakhtar Donetsk (Q3); Dynamo Kiev (Q2)

Belgium: Standard Liège (Q3); Anderlecht (Q2)

Czech Republic: Slavia Prague (Q3); Sparta Prague (Q2)

Turkey: Galatasaray (Q3); Fenerbahçe (Q2)

Greece: Olympiacos (Q3); Panathinaikos (Q2)

Bulgaria: Levski Sofia (Q3)

Switzerland: FC Basel (Q2)

Norway: SK Brann (Q2)

Israel: Beitar Jerusalem (Q2)

Serbia: FK Partizan (Q2)

Denmark: Aalborg BK (Q2)

Austria: Rapid Vienna (Q2)

Poland: Wisla Kraków (Q2)

Hungary: MTK Budapest (Q2)

Slovakia: FC Artmedia Petržalka (Q1)

Croatia: Dinamo Zagreb (Q1)

Cyprus: Anorthosis Famagusta (Q1)

Sweden: IFK Gothenburg (Q1)

Slovenia: NK Domžale (Q1)

Bosnia & Herzegovina: FK Modrica (Q1)

Latvia: FK Ventspils (Q1)

Lithuania: FBK Kaunus (Q1)

Finland: Tampere United (Q1)

Moldova: FC Sheriff (Q1)

Georgia: Dinamo Tbilisi (Q1)

Macedonia: FK Rabotnicki (Q1)

Iceland: Valur Reykjavík (Q1)

Belarus: FC BATE Borisov (Q1)

Albania: KS Dinamo Tirana (Q1)

Estonia: Levadia Tallinn (Q1)

Armenia: FC Pyunik (Q1)

Azerbaijan: FC Inter Baki (Q1)

Kazakhstan: FK Aktobe (Q1)

Faroe Islands: NSà Runavík (Q1)

Luxembourg: F91 Dudelange (Q1)

Malta: Valetta FC (Q1)

Montenegro: FK Buducnost Podgorica (Q1)

Andorra: FC Santa Coloma (Q1)

San Marino: SS Murata (Q1)

I have who we could meet, in Tuesday's draw at least, in bold.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/7479438.stm

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/news/...sid=727025.html

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Couple of difficult games there actually.

If we get past that round, then the third qualifying round opposition could be even more trickier. Not getting into the CL Group Stages doesn't bear thinking about in financial terms.

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this means the start of the season is getting closer surely? lol, I really cant wait - the euros have been great but its not the gers is it? I cant wait for the cogs to start moving again and pre season to kick off!!

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Barcelona, Atletico Madrid (Q3)

Juventus, Fiorentina (Q3)

Olympiacos (Q3); Panathinaikos (Q2)

Spartak Moscow (Q3)

Anyone care to enlighten me on which of them we could meet in the 3rd round?

IMO the only BIG threats. The rest should be relatively easy.

For what its worth, thats a really tough group of teams, from Q2 on. Good job we're the most succesful club in the world ;)

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Barcelona, Atletico Madrid (Q3)

Juventus, Fiorentina (Q3)

Olympiacos (Q3); Panathinaikos (Q2)

Spartak Moscow (Q3)

Anyone care to enlighten me on which of them we could meet in the 3rd round?

IMO the only BIG threats. The rest should be relatively easy.

For what its worth, thats a really tough group of teams, from Q2 on. Good job we're the most succesful club in the world ;)

We cant meet any of them.

Were seeded.

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Barcelona, Atletico Madrid (Q3)

Juventus, Fiorentina (Q3)

Olympiacos (Q3); Panathinaikos (Q2)

Spartak Moscow (Q3)

Anyone care to enlighten me on which of them we could meet in the 3rd round?

IMO the only BIG threats. The rest should be relatively easy.

For what its worth, thats a really tough group of teams, from Q2 on. Good job we're the most succesful club in the world ;)

We cant meet any of them.

Were seeded.

Wrong

We can meet Athletico Madrid

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Seeded teams_________coef______Unseeded teams_________coef.

------------------------ --- ------- ------------------------ --- -------

Glasgow Rangers____Sco_66.013*** NK Domzale *________Slo_5.272

Panathinaikos_______Gre_52.525*** Beitar Jerusalem______ Isr_ 5.197

FC Basel___________Sui_ 51.993 *** MTK Budapest________ Hun_ 4.960

Fenerbahçe_________Tur_51.469 *** IFK Göteborg *_______ Swe_ 4.518

Anderlecht__________Bel_41.810 *** Anorthosis Famagusta * Cyp_ 4.327

Sparta Praha________Cze_36.496*** Tampere United *____ Fin_ 4.176

Dinamo Kiev________Ukr_34.932 *** Dinamo Tbilisi *______ Geo_ 3.925

Partizan Belgrade____Srb_25.527 *** FK Ventspils *________ Lat_ 3.860

Dinamo Zagreb *____Cro_17.836 *** Rabotnicki Skopje *___ Mac_ 3.090

Wisla Kraków_______Pol_15.973 *** FK Modrica *__________ Bos_ 2.805

Petrzalka Bratislava *Svk_14.070 *** FBK Kaunas *_________ Lit_ 2.640

AaB Aalborg________Den_12.748 *** Sheriff Tiraspol *______ Mol_ 2.475

SK Brann Bergen____Nor_12.400 *** Drogheda United *_____ Irl_ 2.420

Rapid Wien_________Aut_10.840 *** Valur Reykjavik *______ Isl_ 1.980

2nd round

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Seeded teams_______coef.______Unseeded teams__________coef.

------------------------ --- ------- ------------------------ --- -------

Liverpool_________Eng 118.996 *** Atlético Madrid_____Esp 36.837

FC Barcelona______Esp 117.837 *** Sparta Praha **___Cze 36.496

Arsenal___________Eng 110.996 *** Dinamo Kiev **___Ukr 34.932

Schalke 04________Ger 67.078 *** Levski Sofia_______ Bul 32.644

Juventus__________Ita 66.934 *** Slavia Praha_______ Cze 31.496

Glasgow Rangers ** Sco 66.013 *** Galatasaray_______ Tur 30.469

Olympique Marseille_Fra 63.380 *** Partizan Belgrade ** Srb 25.527

Steaua Bucuresti___Rom 59.398 *** Vitória Guimarães__ Por 18.176

Panathinaikos **___Gre 52.525 *** Dinamo Zagreb *___ Cro 17.836

FC Basel **_______Sui 51.993 *** Wisla Kraków **____ Pol 15.973

Olympiakos Piraeus_Gre 51.525 *** Standard Liège_____ Bel 14.810

Fenerbahçe **_____Tur 51.469 *** FC Twente Enschede Ned 14.610

Shakhtar Donetsk___Ukr 49.932 *** Petrzalka Bratislava* Svk 14.070

Anderlecht **______Bel 41.810 *** AaB Aalborg **____ Den 12.748

Fiorentina_________Ita 40.934 *** SK Brann Bergen ** Nor 12.400

Spartak Moscow____Rus 40.437 *** Rapid Wien **_____ Aut 10.840

3rd round

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Seeded teams_______coef.______Unseeded teams__________coef.

------------------------ --- ------- ------------------------ --- -------

Liverpool_________Eng 118.996 *** Atlético Madrid_____Esp 36.837

FC Barcelona______Esp 117.837 *** Sparta Praha **___Cze 36.496

Arsenal___________Eng 110.996 *** Dinamo Kiev **___Ukr 34.932

Schalke 04________Ger 67.078 *** Levski Sofia_______ Bul 32.644

Juventus__________Ita 66.934 *** Slavia Praha_______ Cze 31.496

Glasgow Rangers ** Sco 66.013 *** Galatasaray_______ Tur 30.469

Olympique Marseille_Fra 63.380 *** Partizan Belgrade ** Srb 25.527

Steaua Bucuresti___Rom 59.398 *** Vitória Guimarães__ Por 18.176

Panathinaikos **___Gre 52.525 *** Dinamo Zagreb *___ Cro 17.836

FC Basel **_______Sui 51.993 *** Wisla Kraków **____ Pol 15.973

Olympiakos Piraeus_Gre 51.525 *** Standard Liège_____ Bel 14.810

Fenerbahçe **_____Tur 51.469 *** FC Twente Enschede Ned 14.610

Shakhtar Donetsk___Ukr 49.932 *** Petrzalka Bratislava* Svk 14.070

Anderlecht **______Bel 41.810 *** AaB Aalborg **____ Den 12.748

Fiorentina_________Ita 40.934 *** SK Brann Bergen ** Nor 12.400

Spartak Moscow____Rus 40.437 *** Rapid Wien **_____ Aut 10.840

3rd round

does that mean if the likes of Anderlecht go out then we cannot play At Madrid because they would then move up into a seeded team?

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Beitar Jerusalem! Just remembered!

My first Rangers game with my Dad, I'd been once before but not with my Dad, in the Broomloan front and not far from where I now sit at Ibrox.

Funny story goes that the press had said the Israelis were on a religious fast, and in the 1st half, the away Goalie was taking his time during a kick out and a guy seated stood up and shouted 'Oi 'Keeper, you want a Kit Kit Kit' And a right good few rows erupted with laughter!

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Seeded teams_______coef.______Unseeded teams__________coef.

------------------------ --- ------- ------------------------ --- -------

Liverpool_________Eng 118.996 *** Atlético Madrid_____Esp 36.837

FC Barcelona______Esp 117.837 *** Sparta Praha **___Cze 36.496

Arsenal___________Eng 110.996 *** Dinamo Kiev **___Ukr 34.932

Schalke 04________Ger 67.078 *** Levski Sofia_______ Bul 32.644

Juventus__________Ita 66.934 *** Slavia Praha_______ Cze 31.496

Glasgow Rangers ** Sco 66.013 *** Galatasaray_______ Tur 30.469

Olympique Marseille_Fra 63.380 *** Partizan Belgrade ** Srb 25.527

Steaua Bucuresti___Rom 59.398 *** Vitória Guimarães__ Por 18.176

Panathinaikos **___Gre 52.525 *** Dinamo Zagreb *___ Cro 17.836

FC Basel **_______Sui 51.993 *** Wisla Kraków **____ Pol 15.973

Olympiakos Piraeus_Gre 51.525 *** Standard Liège_____ Bel 14.810

Fenerbahçe **_____Tur 51.469 *** FC Twente Enschede Ned 14.610

Shakhtar Donetsk___Ukr 49.932 *** Petrzalka Bratislava* Svk 14.070

Anderlecht **______Bel 41.810 *** AaB Aalborg **____ Den 12.748

Fiorentina_________Ita 40.934 *** SK Brann Bergen ** Nor 12.400

Spartak Moscow____Rus 40.437 *** Rapid Wien **_____ Aut 10.840

3rd round

does that mean if the likes of Anderlecht go out then we cannot play At Madrid because they would then move up into a seeded team?

Nah.

Round 3 is drawn before round 2 is compete

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As long as we avoid the following teams, I'll be reasonably confident:

Beitar Jerusalem

MTK Budapest

IFK Göteborg

FC Dinamo Tbilisi

Not too worried about Budapest tbh though.

Reckon the Bears can take 'em ;)

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