WaltersGotStyle 160 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Oh Barry Barry! Barry Barry Barry Barry Ferguson! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superally29 0 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 You know, I seem to have missed all these performances by Thomson where he's looked a better player than Ferguson - even today I wouldn't have said that. I've also not actually seen Edu play but apparently he's also better than Ferguson according to some on here Whether Ferguson or Thopmson is the best player is irrelevant to todays posts - The subject is more about the fact that the TEAM played better today - especially in midfield. Nobody knows because it's not been possible to try - but could Barry play the same or a more influential part than Kevin Thomson did - Doubt it !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Ferguson, Davis, Mendes, Thomson, Edu. Best midfield depth in the SPL IMO. Most games are won in midfield IMO. Thats why Celtic got hammerd today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBlue 136 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 but could Barry play the same or a more influential part than Kevin Thomson did - Doubt it !! Well Ferguson has been known to score against Celtic, so the answer to that must be yes, he *could* have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie_bluenose 20 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 We hear all the time that the team and midfield is nothing without Ferguson. In fairness, when Ferguson was partnered with players like Adam, McCulloch, Dailly and Whittaker (and even Thomson before he had settled) there was some truth in that. Ferguson played alongside Davis, Thomson and Adam. All we have done is replaced Mendes with Ferguson and look at the midfield performance today. Ferguson is not as good as people make him out to be and you don't get much of a bigger Ferguson fan than myself. Sadly he's finished. This thread wasn't a dig at Ferguson, it was to show that we don't miss Ferguson as much as some think and how good we were today in that area of the park(along with the others) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadaready 9,437 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Wasn't Ferguson playing hurt alongside an injury plagued midfield last season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecoLally 0 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 They played amazing Ferguson will have to fight for a place in the team, fingers crossed we dont play 451 just so fergie gets a game tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadaready 9,437 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 They played amazing Ferguson will have to fight for a place in the team, fingers crossed we dont play 451 just so fergie gets a game tho I just think that it is kinda wierd to judge our team without Barry having a chance in it. People are writing him off for no other reason than the current team being perceived as perfect after one OF win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza 21 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 They played amazing Ferguson will have to fight for a place in the team, fingers crossed we dont play 451 just so fergie gets a game tho I just think that it is kinda wierd to judge our team without Barry having a chance in it. People are writing him off for no other reason than the current team being perceived as perfect after one OF win. That last part sums it up perfectly. Bazza did it last year too and now look at his reputation amoungst some fans... http://www.rangers.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Ma...1147901,00.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 9 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 The midfield is the best I've seen in ages and Mendes is pure class! What were your thoughts on Charles Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 9 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 They played amazing Ferguson will have to fight for a place in the team, fingers crossed we dont play 451 just so fergie gets a game tho I just think that it is kinda wierd to judge our team without Barry having a chance in it. People are writing him off for no other reason than the current team being perceived as perfect after one OF win. A number of thoughts occur here: 1: The first half against Aberdeen saw some absolutely excellent football from us. We looked like a team who could play the game, rather than a bunch of hatchet men being led by a dominant mouth. 2: This was our biggest OF win for 12 years at Parkhead? 3: We happened to play very, very well in it. The point is, I don't think Ferguson's absence is being so much highlighted now, but should have been being scrutinised this whole season - and sadly for him we've not missed him at all. This team isn't perfect, but only a blind man would suggest we are not currently playing good football - and that is after 4 games, not one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMWWBK 0 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Mendes' cross ball pass for Broadfoot (Miller's 4th) was just stunning. All fun and games asides, one of the best passes i've ever seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PORTGER 7 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Fergies a class act but I hope that if he does get back into the team it is justified. Not that it is because it is Fergie. The midfield 3 were immense today especially Davis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biotechnology 2 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 I was watching the game in a pub today and the boy next to me was a tim.. he turned round and said "when ferguson is back your team is going to be unbelievable". Im sorry but that sums up how good Ferguson is when one of them are running scared at the prospect of his return. With his determination and Mendes' guile we will win the league by a good margin. The Timmys are getting scared-They are all crying WGS out -we are shite-Biscuit tin-Fergy back-HAHAHA. Stick yer passports and beach balls up your arses-Over on Kerrydale street-Priceless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrT 173 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Barry who??? oh muff sometimes you fail to see the positives here!! instead of saying barry is finished should be forgetten etc think about it being healthy competition. No one should be guaranteed a game but if barry comes back the way we know he can play then he would be in my team, Him and mendes I feel would be fantastic a nice diamond formation in the centre would work very well with another one of your haters miller up front!! come on muff surely you have to agree ferguson coming back can only make us stronger as all the midfield will be giving it there all for a 1st team place he should not walk back into the team but he will play himself into the team hense the reason he is the captain. Its a managers best nightmare a problem they all want to have!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 I was thinking the same yesterday, does Barry have a future at Rangers now? Either way he definitely shouldn't walk straight back into the team when he is fit again. He might be club captain etc but Weir looked a lot more composed as a captain, and our midfield with Mendes pulling the strings was fantastic. Don't get me wrong Barry playing at the top of his game is still the best Scottish midfielder going, but from now on he is going to have to be week in week out. It's going to be coming down to a similar scenario from last season do you change a winning team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger 0 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Barry who??? oh muff sometimes you fail to see the positives here!! instead of saying barry is finished should be forgetten etc think about it being healthy competition. No one should be guaranteed a game but if barry comes back the way we know he can play then he would be in my team, Him and mendes I feel would be fantastic a nice diamond formation in the centre would work very well with another one of your haters miller up front!! come on muff surely you have to agree ferguson coming back can only make us stronger as all the midfield will be giving it there all for a 1st team place he should not walk back into the team but he will play himself into the team hense the reason he is the captain. Its a managers best nightmare a problem they all want to have!! instead of saying barry is finished should be forgetten etc think about it being healthy competition. No one should be guaranteed a game but if barry comes back the way we know he can play then he would be in my team, And it's been this lack of healthy competition for 'Mr Rangers' that's part of the reason why his game has declined and Rangers -until yesterday :unionflag: - became a by-word for staleness, flatness and predictability. A player of Mendes' calibre has been long overdue at Ibrox and let's not forget the circumstances under which PM was signed. Kaunas anyone? surely you have to agree ferguson coming back can only make us stronger as all the midfield will be giving it there all for a 1st team place Not necessarily. On the whole the midfield trio did well yesterday but already there's talk of breaking them up so a guy whose not even fit and presumably walk back in without a moment's thought. At whose expense? Why is Thomson suddenly being protrayed as the weak link? Ferguson made similar gaffs in the past and was never pillored for it. If anyone, I'd say Adam was the least successful of our midfield, although he did not disgrace himself by any means. I can see the viewpoint on this, but this potentially dynamic midfield engine room needs time to gel and settle. It was desperation that forced Walter's hand at the last moment, let's not forget that, and its only fair that Thomson-Mendez-Davis get a decent chance before Walter tries the inevitable experiments and the fans start demanding the recall of 'Mr Rangers'. IMO, Rangers Way is about setting new standards and expecting others to meet them. Whether Ferguson likes it or not, the onus is now him to match what Mendes and the others have achieved in midfield, not the reverse.. We have been treading water for far too long with the same boring line-ups and Ferguson has been part of the problem. It was no coincidence, for example, that our set pieces improved when anyone other than Adam took one. Ferguson is welcome back, as long as he earns the right to be there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrT 173 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Barry who??? oh muff sometimes you fail to see the positives here!! instead of saying barry is finished should be forgetten etc think about it being healthy competition. No one should be guaranteed a game but if barry comes back the way we know he can play then he would be in my team, Him and mendes I feel would be fantastic a nice diamond formation in the centre would work very well with another one of your haters miller up front!! come on muff surely you have to agree ferguson coming back can only make us stronger as all the midfield will be giving it there all for a 1st team place he should not walk back into the team but he will play himself into the team hense the reason he is the captain. Its a managers best nightmare a problem they all want to have!! instead of saying barry is finished should be forgetten etc think about it being healthy competition. No one should be guaranteed a game but if barry comes back the way we know he can play then he would be in my team, And it's been this lack of healthy competition for 'Mr Rangers' that's part of the reason why his game has declined and Rangers -until yesterday :unionflag: - became a by-word for staleness, flatness and predictability. A player of Mendes' calibre has been long overdue at Ibrox and let's not forget the circumstances under which PM was signed. Kaunas anyone? surely you have to agree ferguson coming back can only make us stronger as all the midfield will be giving it there all for a 1st team place Not necessarily. On the whole the midfield trio did well yesterday but already there's talk of breaking them up so a guy whose not even fit and presumably walk back in without a moment's thought. At whose expense? Why is Thomson suddenly being protrayed as the weak link? Ferguson made similar gaffs in the past and was never pillored for it. If anyone, I'd say Adam was the least successful of our midfield, although he did not disgrace himself by any means. I can see the viewpoint on this, but this potentially dynamic midfield engine room needs time to gel and settle. It was desperation that forced Walter's hand at the last moment, let's not forget that, and its only fair that Thomson-Mendez-Davis get a decent chance before Walter tries the inevitable experiments and the fans start demanding the recall of 'Mr Rangers'. IMO, Rangers Way is about setting new standards and expecting others to meet them. Whether Ferguson likes it or not, the onus is now him to match what Mendes and the others have achieved in midfield, not the reverse.. We have been treading water for far too long with the same boring line-ups and Ferguson has been part of the problem. It was no coincidence, for example, that our set pieces improved when anyone other than Adam took one. Ferguson is welcome back, as long as he earns the right to be there. everyone knows you dont walk into a team no matter who you are he will have to earn the right to be back and I bet ya he does, for once we have an argument what and who our best midfield is we have not had this since advocatt years a welcome argument in my eyes! the fight begins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon. 7 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Barry who??? oh muff sometimes you fail to see the positives here!! instead of saying barry is finished should be forgetten etc think about it being healthy competition. No one should be guaranteed a game but if barry comes back the way we know he can play then he would be in my team, Him and mendes I feel would be fantastic a nice diamond formation in the centre would work very well with another one of your haters miller up front!! come on muff surely you have to agree ferguson coming back can only make us stronger as all the midfield will be giving it there all for a 1st team place he should not walk back into the team but he will play himself into the team hense the reason he is the captain. Its a managers best nightmare a problem they all want to have!! great post jimbo! :unionflag: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
twigrfc1 1 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 BF was a crucial part of our midfield, the problem was that we never had a replacement for when he was out injured or otherwise. Now we have Mendes for that position, i reckon BF will drop back into the holding role, take up that position between defence & midfield, maybe giving Mendes the more attacking role. Who do you drop? No one our midfeild is fuckin brilliant as yu says muff good back up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadaready 9,437 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 To say that Ferguson is just a back up seems to me to be a spirit of the moment decision and a dangerous idea to expect to be followed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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