MrT 173 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I posted this in another thread, but in a vain attempt to end the constant (and entirely tedious) Boyd arguments, here goes. Another Rangers game over, another Kris Boyd performance. Again, he will have his critics, and those who will sing his praises. It seems to me that people on this board fall into 2 camps: Camp 1: He scores goals every game, he's the best goalscorer in Britain, he can do no wrong; Camp 2: He might score goals, but contributes nothing else, he's a fat lazy bassa, etc. In my opinion, Camp 1 can't see past his goals, camp 2 underestimate the importance of his goals. I propose Camp 3: "Kris Boyd isn't the most gifted or hardworking player in the squad, but he scores important goals. Let's not argue about him every week." It troubles me, frankly, to see Rangers fans argue so vehemently over 1 player every week, particularly when each side cannot (will not??) see the others' point of view. Sign up for camp 3 here: bluepeter McBoyd bombaybadboy nvager outlaw69uk MarkyMitch come on the gers jimbo1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFRFC 10 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Camp 3 :5436: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted September 25, 2008 Author Share Posted September 25, 2008 Welcome jimbo1 and AndyFRFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Stars Bearette 1 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I posted this in another thread, but in a vain attempt to end the constant (and entirely tedious) Boyd arguments, here goes. Another Rangers game over, another Kris Boyd performance. Again, he will have his critics, and those who will sing his praises. It seems to me that people on this board fall into 2 camps: Camp 1: He scores goals every game, he's the best goalscorer in Britain, he can do no wrong; Camp 2: He might score goals, but contributes nothing else, he's a fat lazy bassa, etc. In my opinion, Camp 1 can't see past his goals, camp 2 underestimate the importance of his goals. I propose Camp 3: "Kris Boyd isn't the most gifted or hardworking player in the squad, but he scores important goals. Let's not argue about him every week." It troubles me, frankly, to see Rangers fans argue so vehemently over 1 player every week, particularly when each side cannot (will not??) see the others' point of view. Sign up for camp 3 here: bluepeter McBoyd bombaybadboy nvager outlaw69uk MarkyMitch come on the gers jimbo1 AndyFRFC Blue Stars Bearette Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted September 25, 2008 Author Share Posted September 25, 2008 I posted this in another thread, but in a vain attempt to end the constant (and entirely tedious) Boyd arguments, here goes. Another Rangers game over, another Kris Boyd performance. Again, he will have his critics, and those who will sing his praises. It seems to me that people on this board fall into 2 camps: Camp 1: He scores goals every game, he's the best goalscorer in Britain, he can do no wrong; Camp 2: He might score goals, but contributes nothing else, he's a fat lazy bassa, etc. In my opinion, Camp 1 can't see past his goals, camp 2 underestimate the importance of his goals. I propose Camp 3: "Kris Boyd isn't the most gifted or hardworking player in the squad, but he scores important goals. Let's not argue about him every week." It troubles me, frankly, to see Rangers fans argue so vehemently over 1 player every week, particularly when each side cannot (will not??) see the others' point of view. Sign up for camp 3 here: bluepeter McBoyd bombaybadboy nvager outlaw69uk MarkyMitch come on the gers jimbo1 AndyFRFC Blue Stars Bearette First bearette in Camp 3 - welcome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edranger 0 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Camp 4 for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calderbear 0 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I have no desire to be categorised as camp; but I am sick of the same old tired arguments being regurgitated ad infinitum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer 0 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Sing me up for Camp 3, sounds just about right to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbiemac 0 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Camp 3 for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVB 2,560 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I'm in Camp 4: Dont give a fuck who plays so long as we win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KERRZO 5 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Sorry Im defo still Camp 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted September 25, 2008 Author Share Posted September 25, 2008 I have no desire to be categorised as camp; but I am sick of the same old tired arguments being regurgitated ad infinitum Sing me up for Camp 3, sounds just about right to me. Camp 3 for me Updated, welcome to camp 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted September 25, 2008 Author Share Posted September 25, 2008 I'm in Camp 4: Dont give a fuck who plays so long as we win. Your camp has its merits, but there are too many "bigger boys" for me. I've heard rumours of drinking alcohol and everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose4life 5 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Camp 4 for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrymorrison1 1,039 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 this is an interesting one. i have been a fan of boyd since day one. 15 years ago we never questioned mccoist's workrate or touch, just goals. if anything maybe chances per goals. he was, and still is the greatest scorer in rangers history. today, we have a player, who probably is slower, less mobile, has slower work ethic and a poorer first touch than mccoist, and maybe a a few other faults. however, when he was signed by mccliesh, he was used as an out and out front man, being supplied by prso and lovenkrands at the time, and scored 20 goals for kilmarnock and rangers, top scorer for both clubs. when le guen came in, it was him who first brought up the debate about boyd, but for all his flaws, fall outs, etc, he was still top scorer. last year, even walter smith publicly stating he is not the striker he wanted to use for the role he prefered last year, he again was still top scorer, basically bailing them out in two cup finals. this year, i did think he would move on, for his sake i thought that he does not need the constant stigma surrounding him, and to find a club where he would play every week and do his thing. but, smith has signed kenny miller, who is the opposite of boyd, a guy who works hard all day, but has a poor scoring record, to boyd, who has an excellent scoring record, but poor work rate. i belive miller is here to partner boyd, more often than not i think, at least till january to see what happens. i think this can work, and hope it does. if not then boyd should move on. at this time he is second in spl history in scoring charts. for the money paid,(400 grand i think), it not been too bad an outlay, but you would think he cost 6 mill the way the debate goes up here every week. rangers wanted mcdonald, and were only willing to pay 400 grand, and septic were prepared to pay 700 grand, and it was this extra 300 grand which gave them 1st place last year. mcdonald is the only player in scotland at the moment in boyd's price bracket who will score as many as him. so, what i am saying is until boyd moves, whether he plays or as a sub, he is the top scorer since he arrived, and i think he deserves no more praise or criticsm than any other player at the club. just my opinion. i suppose i am in camp 3. i think!! cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted September 25, 2008 Author Share Posted September 25, 2008 i suppose i am in camp 3. i think!! cheers. I've added you. Welcome - I think!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrymorrison1 1,039 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 cheers, will c how this develops over the day. time to go, gym calling for couple of hours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 69 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 How about camp 4. If he scores, leave him alone. If he dosnt. Slate him .. :unionflag: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superally29 0 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Perfect assessment, Count me in !! :unionflag: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Camp 3 for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted September 25, 2008 Author Share Posted September 25, 2008 Perfect assessment, Count me in !! :unionflag: Camp 3 for me. Added, welcome to camp 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenose_Pete 4 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 How about camp 4. If he scores, leave him alone. If he dosnt. Slate him .. :unionflag: pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander2006 50 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Considering we could get around £3 million for him, which in turn could be used to bring in someone who could be used in every game, i don't buy into this idealistic logic of wheeling him out for the "smaller" matches. But yes, i do agree with your point about the weekly debates. Half the "Boyd threads" are just full of self-righteous nonsense. We paid around the 3M mark for Laferty and I dont see him getting a regular game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander2006 50 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Yeah I posted on the other thread I am definatly in the Camp 3 >>>Count Me In<<< Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,846 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 It troubles me, frankly, to see Rangers fans argue so vehemently over 1 player every week, particularly when each side cannot (will not??) see the others' point of view. Its these blinkered opionions that make the arguments worse, Ive never claimed him to be a world beater, I often picked cousin ahead of him last season in my proposed line ups, and its pretty hard not to see the other peoples point of view, especially when they critisize something bad he does, yet fail to regonize something good he does in the same match Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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