CanadianGer 1 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I noticed today the story below on the BBC. Until today I hadn't bothered to look at the photos of those identified by GMP. I had however heard that out of all the photos released only a handful showed the person in Rangers colours or wearing a Rangers crest. However, the story I was reading had a small selection of photos and 5 of the 6 people shown were clearly wearing Rangers colours. Being a numbers guy, I know that 5 out of 6 is 83% http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotlan...est/7855228.stm I then reviewed the full selection of photos at this link http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7854173.stm Even assuming that the fellow wearing a flat cap has a Rangers crest on the top (and its hard to tell for sure), even counting partially covered jerseys I could only count 10 of the 49 shown as wearing something clearly tied to Rangers. So using my count, out of 49 people shown, 20.41% are wearing something Rangers related. So is it an accident or deliberate misinformation on the part of the BBC to choose to represent 20% as 83%? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw69uk 123 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Its interesting, then again, on Crimewatch, they seemed to be making an effort to point out that it wasnt Rangers related. The only time we were mentioned by name, was as one of the 2 teams playing in the final Then again, words on a tv program are far harder to deny than numbers of photos, which could easily be argued as an accident or similar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jardy 0 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 well spotted and thinking about it they probably would do something like this. Cheers for bringing this up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jardy 0 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Its interesting, then again, on Crimewatch, they seemed to be making an effort to point out that it wasnt Rangers related. The only time we were mentioned by name, was as one of the 2 teams playing in the final Then again, words on a tv program are far harder to deny than numbers of photos, which could easily be argued as an accident or similar also the police officer came out today and said in no way does he think the thugs that attacked him were true rangers fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw69uk 123 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Its interesting, then again, on Crimewatch, they seemed to be making an effort to point out that it wasnt Rangers related. The only time we were mentioned by name, was as one of the 2 teams playing in the final Then again, words on a tv program are far harder to deny than numbers of photos, which could easily be argued as an accident or similar also the police officer came out today and said in no way does he think the thugs that attacked him were true rangers fans. Both GMP guys said that last night too. I believe it was 2 bears that pulled him out was it not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_ni 12 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 even the dogs in the street know that the majority of the trouble was not caused by rangers fans. I'm sure there were a few drunken idiots who were involved but the majority were not rangers fans. Just over a 5th of the people wanted by the police wearing rangers colours, which is amazing because every person i saw in the street in manchester had rangers colours on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstamomusa 3,811 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I noticed today the story below on the BBC. Until today I hadn't bothered to look at the photos of those identified by GMP. I had however heard that out of all the photos released only a handful showed the person in Rangers colours or wearing a Rangers crest. However, the story I was reading had a small selection of photos and 5 of the 6 people shown were clearly wearing Rangers colours. Being a numbers guy, I know that 5 out of 6 is 83% http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotlan...est/7855228.stm I then reviewed the full selection of photos at this link http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7854173.stm Even assuming that the fellow wearing a flat cap has a Rangers crest on the top (and its hard to tell for sure), even counting partially covered jerseys I could only count 10 of the 49 shown as wearing something clearly tied to Rangers. So using my count, out of 49 people shown, 20.41% are wearing something Rangers related. So is it an accident or deliberate misinformation on the part of the BBC to choose to represent 20% as 83%? ....and right underneath is a link to all photos, if you want to look at all of them (you guys are really trying to find stuff to build conspiracies on). The pics of the ones in Rangers shirts are probably the ones that would most likley be recognised by people who look at the BBC Scotland site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 As much as it saddens me to say whether they are fans of the club or not doesn't matter it's our name they have dragged through the mud if found guilty I consider none of them Rangers fans in that curcimstance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers & Arsenal 1 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 those who attacked the police officer/s are true scum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jardy 0 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Its interesting, then again, on Crimewatch, they seemed to be making an effort to point out that it wasnt Rangers related. The only time we were mentioned by name, was as one of the 2 teams playing in the final Then again, words on a tv program are far harder to deny than numbers of photos, which could easily be argued as an accident or similar also the police officer came out today and said in no way does he think the thugs that attacked him were true rangers fans. Both GMP guys said that last night too. I believe it was 2 bears that pulled him out was it not? the one that was in the paper a couple of days after didn't really defend us, infact he went out of his way to specifically say it was a soldiar with a manc accent that saved him. He came out with alot of stuff that week after but i suppose he got it bad that night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie1689 1 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 yeah i noticed that too CR why would any rangers fan go to manchester in a mass invasion for a euro cup final not wear any colours, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintonGrey 365 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 yeah i noticed that too CR why would any rangers fan go to manchester in a mass invasion for a euro cup final not wear any colours, Aye man, when i went down i think everything i had on was Rangers colours, even the underwear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianGer 1 Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 Its interesting, then again, on Crimewatch, they seemed to be making an effort to point out that it wasnt Rangers related. The only time we were mentioned by name, was as one of the 2 teams playing in the final Then again, words on a tv program are far harder to deny than numbers of photos, which could easily be argued as an accident or similar Assuming that the Crimewatch editorial team is based in England (probably London) and the BBC Scotland website and news reports are generated in Glasgow, its quite possible there is "local bias". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw69uk 123 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Its interesting, then again, on Crimewatch, they seemed to be making an effort to point out that it wasnt Rangers related. The only time we were mentioned by name, was as one of the 2 teams playing in the final Then again, words on a tv program are far harder to deny than numbers of photos, which could easily be argued as an accident or similar Assuming that the Crimewatch editorial team is based in England (probably London) and the BBC Scotland website and news reports are generated in Glasgow, its quite possible there is "local bias". More than likely, down here, most of the stories that are a big noise in Scotland dont really break the surface. Most people havent got a clue, and, I think I have had to explain "sectarian" to them haha. Its a complete non story here. Given the proximity of Manchester as well, its a surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest therabbitt Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Very very interesting shout... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud 0 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 So much for the 'impartial' bbc! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I noticed today the story below on the BBC. Until today I hadn't bothered to look at the photos of those identified by GMP. I had however heard that out of all the photos released only a handful showed the person in Rangers colours or wearing a Rangers crest. However, the story I was reading had a small selection of photos and 5 of the 6 people shown were clearly wearing Rangers colours. Being a numbers guy, I know that 5 out of 6 is 83% http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotlan...est/7855228.stm I then reviewed the full selection of photos at this link http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7854173.stm Even assuming that the fellow wearing a flat cap has a Rangers crest on the top (and its hard to tell for sure), even counting partially covered jerseys I could only count 10 of the 49 shown as wearing something clearly tied to Rangers. So using my count, out of 49 people shown, 20.41% are wearing something Rangers related. So is it an accident or deliberate misinformation on the part of the BBC to choose to represent 20% as 83%? No it's all fair, they get the same treatment, we have to put our house in order, blah blah blah.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManchestGer 347 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Quite interesting really, I'd not seen that. I'd seen the 49 images and was quite surprised at how few on there were wearing colours as on the day it seemed as though everyone was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper 157 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 As much as it saddens me to say whether they are fans of the club or not doesn't matter it's our name they have dragged through the mud if found guilty I consider none of them Rangers fans in that curcimstance Correct- but yet there are still idiots on here telling us not to grass on them if we know them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Jesus - that has to be one of our most paranoic posts yet! You had to work really hard to turn that into a bias post - Do you really think the BBC are that far down the bias road that they would spend the time even considering how to show Rangers in the worst light and come up with something as subtle as this ? You credit them with far to much intelligence me thinks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowcross 5 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 You credit them with far to much intelligence me thinks! We don't make that same mistake with you tho BP9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 505 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Yep, the British media have never manipulated the public via subtle reporting which doesn't reflect the true picture... How paranoid of someone to suggest that could happen! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 yeah i noticed that too CR why would any rangers fan go to manchester in a mass invasion for a euro cup final not wear any colours, I didn’t have a rangers top on that day …couldn't get one anywhere in London…… I had a blue polo shirt on though, hope that was ok...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotchilli Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I think you guys in Scotland a very lucky to have the BBC. In my opinion, they are by far the best international media organisation in the world: peer celebrated for impartiality and honest reporting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 505 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I think you guys in Scotland a very lucky to have the BBC. In my opinion, they are by far the best international media organisation in the world: peer celebrated for impartiality and honest reporting. I hope you are fishing spicy one...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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