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  1. Literally the most annoying thing to see in a debate over something is for someone to misrepresent the other persons argument to try and make their own sound better. At least engage with what is actually being said instead of inflating and exaggerating the points into something that wasn't said, doesn't look good. PRW isn't saying "we have never had any atmosphere at all", that would be daft. It really doesn't need addressing how many games we have had a great atmosphere at, it's undeniable and obvious. A good team helps atmosphere, obviously yes but having a good team doesn't equal a good atmosphere, that is clear at some of the best teams in the world right now, especially in England, absolute morgues. There are things you can do to help the atmosphere which benefits the fans, the team and the club.
  2. Being not in favour of safe standing is fine but this logic makes zero sense - 'The atmosphere wasn't great today so it will never be any better than that'. To add, nobody ever said that games against Hamilton will be a "cauldron of noise" or have the full stadium bouncing like you are insinuating - and that's not the argument being made for safe standing. Will the atmosphere be much better? Most definitely. Will it be more enjoyable? Most definitely. It's simple maths, a section of a couple thousand in a prominent position is louder and has better chance of spreading during spells, than a section of 500 in the worst corner of the ground. So you are replying to a point that isn't being made.
  3. List problem sorted with @BEE Hadn't got to the very bottom of who put the name forward, wasn't from social media but either way wasn't their convenor so problem is still on our end imo. Happy to say that the bus has now officially decided to support safe standing though
  4. What's your RSC mate and I'll send it to be added to the next list if you's haven't already done so. Glad to see the support!
  5. You're right about that, there's plenty RSC's that have been left out for that reason though so calm your jets. What's your RSC and I'll sort out where it came from and have it took off if necessary. Pm if you don't want to post it publically or that, just whatever suits.
  6. Began with e-mails and messages directly and then spread with people contacting us to add their support. Feel like you have a problem...
  7. Was released on our Facebook and twitter. List of RSC's in support now much, much larger.
  8. What I've posted is what I personally believe to be the fairest way. I believe people choosing to move out should be given first choice on availability at no extra cost to their season ticket. As you can see from my post it's not from taking a lead role that I believe we came into it, it's from being the section that has stood for years and holds the people currently most keen to stand and sing at Ibrox, and a section that is allowed to happen at grounds through leniency. It's really common sense to seek to move those same people into a 'safe' standing section. Obviously those in the area should be given the choice to stay or move IMO and then thereafter as I previously listed.
  9. Thanks, I take it back about the list of demands. The way it worked with Celtic and the way BF1 currently works is there is a fairly negotiated allocation given by the club and the way would happen on for this would again be on the basis of availability from people who don't move ( I strongly believe). The group's allocation would be together and it would be selectively chosen, from the front (honestly the worst view so I don't see how it would be a problem). I don't imagine an arrangement based upon growth, anyone who has any interest if ever being involved with the UB/atmosphere on a matchday will be looking to move if this eventually happens. I personally don't see a problem in that, it isn't really unreasonable.
  10. Bastard, thought we already were allowed Joke for anyone feeling a bit serious.
  11. You've not which is why you keep avoiding saying what the demands we would start making after safe standing are. You also began by claiming this is about making the UB feel more important about themselves. The UB was created to add colour and atmosphere to Rangers games home and away, the benefit of creating a better atmosphere is the benefit of Ibrox - the ultimate reason for our existence. The order I personally believe it will go in is season ticket holders in that area will be told what is happening and be given the choice of staying or moving. Following that the club will give the group a fairly negotiated amount of the allocation that is left (don't worry the amount we get will be less than the amount that is left). The seats left will then be given to those who register an interest. I personally believe that is the fairest way and it's pretty much the exact same situation as Celtic. To add this is all completely hypothetical, it may not be the CF although that seems the most popular choice and common example. We as Rangers fans have made massive strides in the past week but there is still a long way to go.
  12. You've not said any demands anywhere we would make, just that we would "start getting all arses with demands." Shouldn't be too hard to give a quick list of the demands you imagine? struggling to imagine them myself which is why I'm so confused. If you think Rangers are going to exclude the only section in Ibrox that has been standing at games for years and years - when you aren't actually allowed technically - from a newly built safe standing section then you are completely off your head to be honest. Ofcourse all fans are equal but BF1 is the accepted standing section of Ibrox where those who are the most keen to stand and sing are. To exclude them from a newly built standing section for that very purpose, when the current arrangement shouldn't technically be allowed, defies all common sense.
  13. What kind of demands do you think we would make like?
  14. I don't expect us to get preferential treatment over anything but I'm sorry when it comes to this - we are the only section that stands in Ibrox and it would be absolutely bizarre for us not to be in the standing section. That said, say for example it's CF which is the common example used, there would be more than enough space for the demand.
  15. Hold on and I'll ask him is it true that mchammer said you don't actually like us. Like PRW said, he doesn't even stand there. There's more than just David Martin who is head of security and I wouldn't believe that to be true because it doesn't reflect any dealings we have had at all.
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