Big Al 55 9,252 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 There was always going to be a new share offeringWhy stir the shit and cause disruption?He could easily have waited til after the 120 days and the interim resultsI suspect he's not got the cashYou suggested you'd heard he didn't have the cash. I've no idea, although not having the cash and still trying to get involved is in itself worrying.Why bother? Why not live in his luxury home in SA without the hassle? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robespierre 589 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 do u honestly think king would take us back to administration?Dave King won't take us into Administration directly, but if he keeps up this talk of withholding season ticket money and enough fuds listen to him, then there is a very real chance of Admin 2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,252 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Dave King won't take us into Administration directly, but if he keeps up this talk of withholding season ticket money and enough fuds listen to him, then there is a very real chance of Admin 2.Fuds? Haven't we had enough if that tonight? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carson's cat 744 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Hope you're right CC but I believe this will turn into a game if brinkmanship. There are some ruthless people with a sizeable interest in Rangers. People like them don't run away readily. I predict a widespread campaign by the RST and alike to hold ST money in a trust rather than renewing.It's been a game of brinkmanship for months. The get-rich-quick mob have been trying desperately to force DK to attempt a takeover bid. So far he has resisted. The question now is how the likes of Laxey, BPH and Margarita will react to a season ticket boycott. They could, as BB has suggested, threaten to close the club down and sell the assets, but I suspect that they wouldn't get enough support. That having been said, 65% voted for Stockbridge, so you never know! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robespierre 589 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Fuds? Haven't we had enough if that tonight?Surely you would agree that anyone who withholds vital funds from the club at this time should be condemned? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinty 1,445 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Good summary of the thread.A sad footnote is that it has descended into Bear v Bear again (with the odd agent provocateur mixing it to vile effect).Knock of the hefty abuse guys... I like a laugh and have the occasional bit of needle with some guys on here (you know who you are) but one thing I could never argue with them about is their absolute passion and love for Rangers. So let's hope there are no casualties of war tonight as we aspire to tear each other to cyber-shreds, post by post.I do not like the emotive language that Dave King has chosen in the statement; not one bit. But I do not trust and have no great love for some of the current board either. To coin a phrase, often used by us about players, the Brothers Easdale are not 'Rangers Class.'Like any Rangers fan, because of the past couple of years, I wield a shield of scepticism... and it is a heavy shield. Sometimes it can be a weary burden. We all want the same thing... so if we can have these differences of opinion and still remain brothers with the same ultimate aim, then perhaps we can move forward, even a little, as a fanbase.This trend I see on here of wishing (almost willing) someone to be wrong about these huge issues just to point-score is starting to become pathetic. The very fabric of our great club hangs by these issues. So, let's keep the raging, flaming pseudo-telekinesis by keyboard at a minimum.To wish bad karma on a fellow fan is to wish heartache upon yourself.Stop it. It's stupid.Well said, ''without people you're nothing' Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 You suggested you'd heard he didn't have the cash. I've no idea, although not having the cash and still trying to get involved is in itself worrying.Why bother? Why not live in his luxury home in SA without the hassle?I don't knowMaybe he is doing somebody else's bidding Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,252 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Surely you would agree that anyone who withholds vital funds from the club at this time should be condemned?That wasn't the point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robespierre 589 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 That wasn't the point.Apologies if it was interpreted as offensive Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theweebluenose 4,332 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Not if you want your money to go to your company. We may have to differ in opinion.So the best way is to potentially disrupt the Club's chances of stability? Really disheartening seeing bickering between supporters and having the focus taken away from Football again, I think I need a stiff drink to get my heid around all of this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 do u honestly think king would take us back to administration?if it means he can finally get his hands in the club, yes i do.if he was already involved id say no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
broomloan blue nose 91 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Dave King won't take us into Administration directly, but if he keeps up this talk of withholding season ticket money and enough fuds listen to him, then there is a very real chance of Admin 2.I think dave king would be good for the club.just my opinion.but he wont be putting me off renewing my season ticket.i make my own decisions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robespierre 589 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I think dave king would be good for the club.just my opinion.but he wont be putting me off renewing my season ticket.i make my own decisions.Good to hear Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stfu 596 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Please refrain from telling me what to do.He does not want control and he does not want Rangers to be owned or controlled by one body.His aim (from what I can make out) is to purchase shares from a new issue and have those pooled with other large shareholdings from wealthy fans. This brings funds to the club and a voice in the boardroom.So he does not want control but he just wants to control others is that it?A man with no shares whatsoever, today told us that we should not purchase our season tickets directly from our club (not his).He is sure acting like a control freak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 So he does not want control but he just wants to control others is that it?A man with no shares whatsoever, today told us that we should not purchase our season tickets directly from our club (not his).He is sure acting like a control freak.Reminds me of a big fat guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 if it means he can finally get his hands in the club, yes i do.if he was already involved id say no.If he does that Gogzy there will be no way back. We might not have a league to play in, or be in the wilderness for a long, long time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robespierre 589 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 So he does not want control but he just wants to control others is that it?A man with no shares whatsoever, today told us that we should not purchase our season tickets directly from our club (not his).He is sure acting like a control freak.He want's the likes of Laxey, Margarita and Blue pitch out and a Dave King backed fans movement in, the only way he sees this as achievable is through a ring fencing of ST money, which would starve them out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ 743 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 So he does not want control but he just wants to control others is that it?A man with no shares whatsoever, today told us that we should not purchase our season tickets directly from our club (not his).He is sure acting like a control freak.He did not tell us, nor did he order us - he suggested that we move with caution. He urged us to consider his proposal - you CHOOSE to listen or follow.He does suggest that he would lead a fans group and as a previous director at the club, I suggest there may not be many better to take on that role. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,252 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I don't believe it was DK grand plan to take us into admin. It's clear to me he wants any money he invests to benefit the club.Given the financial situation at the club I suspect he finds it difficult to understand why the current board do not favour an underwritten share issue to generate much needed funds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawsburst 1,381 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 DAVE King has dismissed as a pipedream the idea Rangers could ever be owned and operated by its fans. The Ibrox director says his club's supporters already invest more in their team than any other followers in the world and it's unrealistic to expect more.He says the concept of fan ownership, backed by bodies such as the Rangers Trust, won bank and Murray Group support during the club's darkest days last season.But he emphatically stated it was always a non-starter in his eyes and there is no great groundswell of support for fan ownership among the majority of the Light Blues legions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ 743 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I don't believe it was DK grand plan to take us into admin. It's clear to me he wants any money he invests to benefit the club.Given the financial situation at the club I suspect he finds it difficult to understand why the current board do not favour an underwritten share issue to generate much needed funds.What are your thoughts on it? Why would a board not consider this an option, and instead take a heavy weighted loan from an existing shareholder? Why would that existing shareholder make that loan so heavily weighted in their favour?It just does not sit right with me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 DAVE King has dismissed as a pipedream the idea Rangers could ever be owned and operated by its fans. The Ibrox director says his club's supporters already invest more in their team than any other followers in the world and it's unrealistic to expect more.He says the concept of fan ownership, backed by bodies such as the Rangers Trust, won bank and Murray Group support during the club's darkest days last season.But he emphatically stated it was always a non-starter in his eyes and there is no great groundswell of support for fan ownership among the majority of the Light Blues legions.There is now even he cant ignore it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 What are your thoughts on it? Why would a board not consider this an option, and instead take a heavy weighted loan from an existing shareholder? Why would that existing shareholder make that loan so heavily weighted in their favour?It just does not sit right with me.Timing is everything, the loan is hardly a huge one. Seems King wants a new share issue yesterday, the board probably aren't ready. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawsburst 1,381 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 There is now even he cant ignore it.Dave is playin the double dunt... and some know it.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 There is now even he cant ignore it.There wasn't before this morning when he had his u turnHe is up to something but people can't, or don't want to see itThis is not about £1.5 million in loansThat was just the trigger for them to make their move as they didn't dare wait for the interims and the 120 day review in case it was favourable news Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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