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42 minutes ago, Rfc52 said:

Allegedly there are as many as 100 victims.

If anyone takes them in and wins even 100k then the potential is there for around 10million if they all come.forward and are all willing to claim against the club 

 

39 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

The reputational damage alone if that’s anywhere near true should end them (I wish)

This is a scandal that I genuinely believe is on a scale that will soon attain worldwide coverage. It is Penn State type in nature, and something I believe will be referenced in years to come when sexual abuse within sport is discussed/googled.

As it develops, I genuinely believe others will go down too outwith that club. I simply can't comprehend there being no statement or formal enquiry announcement yet by the SFA nor government. I think the SFA in particular urgently needs to take a stance or they'll also become embroiled to their cost. Fuck them if it happens.

This is only the beginning.

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45 minutes ago, KingKirk said:

What's the potential compo outlay for these scumbags couple of hundred grand or tens of millions.

Ex player going after them for 100k that's why I ask

The value of a claim depends on several factors which will vary from individual to individual.

The first of these relates to the injury sustained by and the effect of it. In cases of sexual abuse,  psychological injury is usually far more significant than any physical injury sustained. The effects of abuse on a person's mental health can have lifelong effects (such as an inability to form and maintain relationships, self harming, substance abuse, depression etc.) which require ongoing treatment.  To prove this, specialist medical evidence will be led on behalf of the victim. The Defender will usually also have the victim examined by experts instructed by them, the opinion of whom may be quite different from that of those instructed by the claimant.  In such a 'battle of the experts', the court decides which evidence is to be preferred. 

But that's not all. The effect of the injury may also have resulted in the victim sustaining probable financial loss. For example, the victim may have given up the chance of a career as a football player. The victim may also have encountered difficulty in finding and holding down employment and thereby been deprived of earning a reasonable income. These losses are not assumed and have to be proven. It's not an exact science in cases of this sort but it's possible to paint a reasonably good picture of what the victim's life and career would probably had looked like but for the abuse. Needless to say,the Defender would probably choose to challenge this as well. 

No two victims are the same, though, and that holds true for the extent to which the effects of abuse have affected them and, therefore, the amount of compensation payable to each of them.

 

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17 minutes ago, B1872 said:

I think Kaiser Wull or another poster claimed the £100k was incorrect. Not sure there is any ceiling tbh!

It's not correct. There's a lower limit of £5000 but no ceiling. 

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It will be interesting to see what spiers

Writes, point scoring will be mentioned.

Also what are other clubs fans saying about it I know a hibs fan and a taig he was talking to me about it wants the taigs done and the taig replied with "what about neely at Rangers"

To which the hibs fan said

"Neely was with hibs got booted out and went to Rangers,Rangers were unaware that he had done anything because WE (hibs) never reported it kind of like your club"

BOOM

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FF seem to think there could be victims in the usa:no: FFS if thats true hopefully this ends up worldwide news and the victims get justice

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1 minute ago, KingKirk said:

FF seem to think there could be victims in the usa:no: FFS if thats true hopefully this ends up worldwide news and the victims get justice

Just posted similar a few posts above.

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Just now, KingKirk said:

FF seem to think there could be victims in the usa:no: FFS if thats true hopefully this ends up worldwide news and the victims get justice

Seen a few people tweet that the amount of victims could be in the hundreds as well. 😳

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https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3464753/jim-torbett-brendan-smith-paedo-celtic-boys-club-victim-abuse-jail/

 

thats is just sick, how the fuck can supporters of that club read this and still defend them. The right minded celtic fans need to be more vocal and get this club held to account, they’re sis got to be more reasonable ones than the arseholes we are hearing on Twitter.

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We all know both clubs are linked. IF thats proven in a court what will the sfa do about it what will the disrepute charge. I can only see one outcome 

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3 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3464753/jim-torbett-brendan-smith-paedo-celtic-boys-club-victim-abuse-jail/

 

thats is just sick, how the fuck can supporters of that club read this and still defend them. The right minded celtic fans need to be more vocal and get this club held to account, they’re sis got to be more reasonable ones than the arseholes we are hearing on Twitter.

If a link is proven between CBC and the FC then the SFA only have on option available to them as punishment IMO and thats kicking them out of the league. Rivals or not you cant have that going on in the game 

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39 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

 

This is a scandal that I genuinely believe is on a scale that will soon attain worldwide coverage. It is Penn State type in nature, and something I believe will be referenced in years to come when sexual abuse within sport is discussed/googled.

As it develops, I genuinely believe others will go down too outwith that club. I simply can't comprehend there being no statement or formal enquiry announcement yet by the SFA nor government. I think the SFA in particular urgently needs to take a stance or they too will become embroiled to their cost. Fuck them if it happens.

This is only the beginning.

Game of poker ATM if the scum say sorry the SFA will then act IMO until then its a waiting game.

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10 minutes ago, KingKirk said:

We all know both clubs are linked. IF thats proven in a court what will the sfa do about it what will the disrepute charge. I can only see one outcome 

I honestly don’t think any sporting sanctions will happen to the scum. If they’re sued successfully it’ll be a case of they’ve served their punishment and we’ll move on and learn from it - that’ll be the narrative from the SFA and SPFL. If the rumours are true about their being hundreds of victims then the only thing I can see is celtic going into admin as doubt they could trade whilst paying off the millions to victims, paying their £60 million wage bill, running costs plus CO-OP loan. Not to mention their lecky bill for their disco lights.

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8 minutes ago, KingKirk said:

If a link is proven between CBC and the FC then the SFA only have on option available to them as punishment IMO and thats kicking them out of the league. Rivals or not you cant have that going on in the game 

The SFA should not be waiting till liewell tells them if there is a link or not.

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6 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said:

The SFA should not be waiting till liewell tells them if there is a link or not.

I’d love to be a fly on the wall in the Glitterdome boardroom these days.

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Not that I’d wish child abuse on anyone, but I hope there is true to the USA link as by fuck the Americans don’t hold back and will drive every legal angle going.

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8 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said:

The SFA should not be waiting till liewell tells them if there is a link or not.

They need to wait until they take responsibility tho IF not it will be down to the courts and one case going against them the flood gates open. If the football club do the right thing then and only then can/will the sfa act

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1 minute ago, KingKirk said:

They need to wait until they take responsibility tho IF not it will be down to the courts and one case going against them the flood gates open. If the football club do the right thing then and only then can/will the sfa act

Can I ask? Where is this confidence coming from that the SFA will act?

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5 hours ago, Kaiser Wull said:

I can't see this being swept under the carpet. Here's a few reasons why:

i. Claimants have to agree to settle on a liability not admitted/non-disclosure basis. We don't know if any or all of them would be willing to do so. It could be that some insist on a public apology as part of a settlement deal. 

ii. This is now a very public matter. People will ask questions if these claims were suddenly dropped. 

iii. There's a case already proceeding in the All Scotland Personal Injury Court. celtic are fighting that one. Might they also want to fight the other cases? They may believe that they have no legal liability to compensate Torbett's victims.

iv. More claims seem likely, particularly if McCafferty is convicted. What starts as a trickle could end up as a flood. 

v. Settling claims can be a very expensive business and has to be accounted for. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's a few good posts you've made mate.

Re iii: This is their only 'get out' as far as I see it with the latest piece of shit. If McCafferty is convicted, they have nowhere to go.

Re i: If they do indeed go down the no legal liability route and lose one, just one, then we'll see lots of these (NDA's) as they will then know that they don't have a defence and save themselves any further disgust from the public with more sordid details emerging from each case. 

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5 minutes ago, KingKirk said:

They need to wait until they take responsibility tho IF not it will be down to the courts and one case going against them the flood gates open. If the football club do the right thing then and only then can/will the sfa act

I don’t see why they should have to wait till celtic tell them if they want to take responsibility, they are the govern body and it should be them telling celtic if they are responsible. If they don’t hold them responsible then football is fucked in our country and I’m afraid if our football team allow it to go unheeded so is our team.

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These cunts can't say sorry for one massive reason

It could end them by doing so

They have no idea just how deep this goes IMO. From within the club yes but outside just how far have the scumbags went with the abuse.

That isn't something they can control so they wont be saying sorry.

We all know they should then deal with the aftermath however keeping scum fc afloat is more important to them

It'll be down to the courts to prove a link then all bets are off right now plenty in the boardroom will be having many a sleepless night 

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14 minutes ago, Bears r us said:

Here are details of the secret pact from the 1991 USA tour and allegations .

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Shameful+airport+pact+haunts+us+after+5+years%3B+EXCLUSIVE%3A+Truth...-a061256232

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4 hours ago, Robmc1 said:

It’s referred to in law as the ‘Moorov Doctrine’...

That is a criminal doctrine. Civil standard lower on balance of probabilities so should be easier.

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