Turnberry18

This, he brought us some major highs but the end stuff was as dire as i had witnessed.

Couldn't handle Eck back at the helm.
The relief when he left was resounding.

I love when we take two goal leads, the weight off the players they play with more freedom. We need a few breaks, and hopefully they do it for everyone at the club now. It's time these players took more responsibility for what is happening on the park, and started playing like a team.

I forgot to add, and drop Windass. I saw enough in the past couple of weeks to acknowledge I got that way wrong; he is never a player for this club. 

We should give Nemane a shout in that position? Will get pelters, but I'd honestly prefer Pena or Kenny out there because when JW is bad, he's BAD

The manager has asked the players to show more togetherness, I don't see a problem with that at all. From the weekend's performance they should be showing character. Caixinha was the only one that looked as if he had a bit of passion about him; the players could learn from him.

I'd rather a three point margin. We're not at the stage of having anything other than wins, no mater how ugly, right now. I'd like a two goal lead early on and leave it from there, without conceding stupid goals.

What a let down. He went anonymous when he had them rattled; just disappeared in no time.  Not the kind of player we need.

Agreed.

There's something adrift, mate.
Every chance to repair a bit of the damage that he blows, like Saturday, is another step nearer the exit (or should be).

I forgot to add, and drop Windass. I saw enough in the past couple of weeks to acknowledge I got that way wrong; he is never a player for this club. 

I can't see it now; he had the perfect chance to do something at the weekend, and for whatever reason becomes invisible. It's happening too often now. There is a player there, but I doubt his heart is really in it.

Because of what I'd heard, I was against him from the start.
Saying that, he has had spells where he's looked the part but he needs to make more happen in those spells.
Don't know if his head goes down if nothing comes off early doors, or it's a fitness thing, or if he'll never have the nous to play at our level (toss up for me between this & the fitness).
Needs to click into place soon, or we're best off moving on.

What a let down. He went anonymous when he had them rattled; just disappeared in no time.  Not the kind of player we need.

Without giving too much away, I know people who have been 'connected' - they're completely amazed he's got as far as us!

I love when we take two goal leads, the weight off the players they play with more freedom. We need a few breaks, and hopefully they do it for everyone at the club now. It's time these players took more responsibility for what is happening on the park, and started playing like a team.

Quite right - as I said though, we really must come out punching ?

I forgot to add, and drop Windass. I saw enough in the past couple of weeks to acknowledge I got that way wrong; he is never a player for this club. 

I get you, but get wins and take it from there. Once we get wins regularly the confidence will grow. That means being a bit expedient- be conservative in defence, take our chances, keep it tight where it matters, and get the job done. I want to see us climbing table starting this weekend.

I get that entirely, mate.
IMO, we need to start being convincing - that does include getting a couple of goals margin & not letting in stupid goals.
If we don't make some sort of statement, we're accepting we're just making up the numbers.

I'd rather a three point margin. We're not at the stage of having anything other than wins, no mater how ugly, right now. I'd like a two goal lead early on and leave it from there, without conceding stupid goals.

Foderingham
Tavernier, Cardoso, McCrorie, John
              Jack
Candeias, Pena, Dorrans,
                Herrera
              Morelos.
 
The game lasts more than 15 minutes, so I'd drop Windass.

Foderingham
Tavernier, Cardoso, McCrorie, John
              Jack
Candeias, Pena, Dorrans,
                Herrera
              Morelos.
 
The game lasts more than 15 minutes, so I'd drop Windass.

Foderingham
Tavernier, Cardoso, McCrorie, John
              Jack
Candeias, Pena, Dorrans,
                Herrera
              Morelos.
 
The game lasts more than 15 minutes, so I'd drop Windass.

It's also reminding them of their duties as a team. There is no room for big egos in a team. As Pele once said, "the only way to win is as a team. Football is not about one, or two, or three star players". It's good to have good players, but it's better to have a team, with a team ethic. I'm happy to have a manager who appears to have reminded these players of that.