JCDBigBear

A lot of players have numerous clubs when young but by the time they are 22 or 23 you expect them to show consistency going forward from then.

He wasn't 26, think he was 23 when we signed him.. This is his 9th season with us.

Pretty sure Tav was only 23 when he signed for us.. He did have 9 clubs prior to that of which 7 were loans.

The wage bill increasing by £9m is worrying. We still have considerable Director loans. Our expenditure needs to come down. The player trading model is basically in tatters thanks to Beale and others.

From season 2015 to 2020 he was at Stoke (5 years) 2020 to early 2023 he was at Crystal Palace (2.5 years) 2023 Man Utd (0.5 years) That's nothing like Lammers abysmal record.

Most of the other clubs were when he was young (up to about 21 years old)

Most of them were when Tavernier was loaned out as a young player. Think he was only 23 when he joined us.

Other clubs have tried to make a success of him and have failed. The manager picks him and there is nothing I can do about that but I doubt I'll see any permanent improvement.

Tav is listed as 7 goals and 3 assists which is 10 combined.

The fact that at 26 years old we are his 7th club tells its own story. I hope in January he is at his 8th club.

I have to disagree mate, he really doesn't give his all. Thursday night was a case in point where he hardly broke sweat. He jogged about the park failing to close opposition players down. That was what really annoyed me. Time after time he failed to close people down and or track back. I'm not surprised that he isn't doing well with us. His track record at previous clubs is abysmal. Why we expected a different scenario with us is baffling. When his name was first mentioned I was told by a very well-informed source that we shouldn't sign him. That came from Italy. Nobody wants to see any player fail especially when we paid a lot of cash for him and his wages will be high but he is a passenger in most games. We can't be a player down right from kick-off in games. He not only has no sell-on value, he will no doubt cost us more to get him away.

Exactly what job is he meant to be doing? I've been watching Rangers for decades and over that period we have had some baffling signings who were criticised by fans for being what I will term as not being of a good enough standard. Some were home grown others bought but they were still woeful. Lammers cost approx £3.5m and had a poor record before we signed him. He has shown no sign of improving on his previous form. Criticism goes with the territory for footballers and other high profile people. I don't hate the guy as a person, I just don't want him playing for us. He cost a lot of money, gets well-paid and has a 4 year deal. He simply isn't contributing positively to the team.

He's utter crap and hardly breaks sweat.

If he can have such a positive impact against decent European opposition like Sparta then I'd rather we played him.

I honestly don't see anything positive about Lammers. I posted elsewhere that I tried not to criticise him last night but he offered nothing in attack, midfield or defensively. He was simply a woeful passenger last night. Totally ineffective.

This. Lammers inaction put our right side under more pressure defensively all night. All he had to was close their players down which would have us contain them.

I tried not to get too animated at him last night but that didn't last. He marked areas of grass most of the game, he didn't close down their players, particularly coming down on our right side. Time after time he should have pressed them but he held back. On the very few occasions when he did try to help the defence he had allowed their players to get past him and then lunged in from the back. His lack of effort in covering and closing down exposed our right side defending. My one concern about Clement is his apparent patience with Lammers. We needed 11 players especially in the last 25 mins last night and we only had 10 taking part.

I am the same. Improved massively since I last saw him in B Team.

Certainly hope so. Honestly see nothing in Lammers.

Lammers was the 2nd worst man on the park. Sparta no.5 was worse and hooked at half time. Lammers was worse than a man short for us. A woeful performance and a mystery how he was on for over 99 mins.

He was awful again v Sparta. How he was allowed over 90 mins is a mystery. Worse than a man short.

Thanks to the utter stupidity of those in charge of Scottish football, we will be playing 11 games in 34 days in winter at a time when the weather is usually awful and money is tight for many due to the festive period.

Whatever has been said has either been an error or it's been misinterpreted. From memory, the capacity of an end stand is split with the lower tier being approx 3500 and the upper approx 4500. Another tier would possibly add 4000 but the construction cost would be astronomical. Look what a relatively simple building like Edmiston House cost.

I just fail to see how they can possibly double (or more) the capacity of each stand. They hold approx 8000 each at present.

I thought he was pretty effective yesterday and at Dundee.