Paisleybear1872

No abuse just missing the point. Displays are for the team and nobody else. Tv is completely irrelevant.

No abuse just missing the point. Displays are for the team and nobody else. Tv is completely irrelevant.

No abuse just missing the point. Displays are for the team and nobody else. Tv is completely irrelevant.

Literally the most annoying thing to see in a debate over something is for someone to misrepresent the other persons argument to try and make their own sound better. At least engage with what is actually being said instead of inflating and exaggerating the points into something that wasn't said, doesn't look good.
 
PRW isn't saying "we have never had any atmosphere at all", that would be daft. It really doesn't need addressing how many games we have had a great atmosphere at, it's undeniable and obvious. A good team helps atmosphere, obviously yes but having a good team doesn't equal a good atmosphere, that is clear at some of the best teams in the world right now, especially in England, absolute morgues. There are things you can do to help the atmosphere which benefits the fans, the team and the club. 

'It's ma seat and I'm moving for no cunt' That is self serving.

List problem sorted with @BEE
Hadn't got to the very bottom of who put the name forward, wasn't from social media but either way wasn't their convenor so problem is still on our end imo. Happy to say that the bus has now officially decided to support safe standing though 

List problem sorted with @BEE
Hadn't got to the very bottom of who put the name forward, wasn't from social media but either way wasn't their convenor so problem is still on our end imo. Happy to say that the bus has now officially decided to support safe standing though 

The good thing about the sandbank is they vote for anything when mwi 

We're on there bro.
Sandbank Loyal.

What's your RSC mate and I'll send it to be added to the next list if you's haven't already done so. Glad to see the support!
 

PM'ed.
Fair enough, not the case with us - and now being asked who has done it.

You've not which is why you keep avoiding saying what the demands we would start making after safe standing are. You also began by claiming this is about making the UB feel more important about themselves. The UB was created to add colour and atmosphere to Rangers games home and away, the benefit of creating a better atmosphere is the benefit of Ibrox - the ultimate reason for our existence.
The order I personally believe it will go in is season ticket holders in that area will be told what is happening and be given the choice of staying or moving. Following that the club will give the group a fairly negotiated amount of the allocation that is left (don't worry the amount we get will be less than the amount that is left). The seats left will then be given to those who register an interest. I personally believe that is the fairest way and it's pretty much the exact same situation as Celtic.
To add this is all completely hypothetical, it may not be the CF although that seems the most popular choice and common example. We as Rangers fans have made massive strides in the past week but there is still a long way to go.

Fwiw, our supporters bus had a poll.
Voted overwhemingly in support.

You're right about that, there's plenty RSC's that have been left out for that reason though so calm your jets. What's your RSC and I'll sort out where it came from and have it took off if necessary. Pm if you don't want to post it publically or that, just whatever suits.

Over the last 10 years the Union Bears have been proud of our rise from a small group in the Copland Rear to having our own section at Ibrox, becoming the heartbeat of the stadium on matchday whilst creating many of the best visual displays ever seen in Britain. We have been involved behind the scenes working to help other groups and RSC's within the wider Rangers support in countless ways during our existence.
Aside from all these notable achievements, our group has also dedicated much of our time to developing our aim for the future and ultimately attempting to convey this to Rangers. In the past few years we have worked hard to develop a detailed proposal for a safe standing section at Ibrox, which included meeting with architects, companies who have implemented rail seats in other grounds and a dedicated football crowdfunding platform who have achieved success with projects around the country and in Europe. We also conducted our own research to establish the level of interest among Rangers fans to both see a safe standing section installed and actively be a part of one. During this time we met with representatives of Rangers, including current Board members to discuss our vision for the future and how this would have an extremely positive impact on the fan experience at Ibrox, the image of the club and most importantly the backing we can offer the players.
In all instances we were told that the Club was very much in tune with our thinking and that follow-up meetings would be arranged to discuss further. They never were. At our most recent meeting with the club hierarchy there was numerous options discussed for firstly expanding our current section in a more prominent part of Ibrox and we were told there would be a follow up meeting ASAP, as soon as the options were explored further.
However, to our dismay, at the time of writing the Club have cut off all but essential communication with our group, especially when it comes to safe standing and an expanded singing section.
Our prior research has shown that there is huge desire within the Rangers support for fans to have the choice of sitting or standing at Ibrox. We believe there are thousands of season ticket holders and RSC members who would take great pleasure in being able to stand with their friends and vocally back their team for 90 minutes, to recreate the fantastic away support at Ibrox and to generally enjoy the experience much more than they are now. We believe that a safe standing section at Ibrox, large enough to accommodate all supporters who wish to participate is not an issue which should be pushed to the back of the queue but an absolute requirement.
As Rangers supporters, we have all seen how the Ibrox experience has been in terminal decline for many years and shows no signs of improvement. Unfortunately it seems that the Club are simply unwilling to listen to ways of improving that in the short to medium term, as it's much easier to ignore and rely on the unwavering loyalty of the Rangers fans instead. That's not and never will be good enough, and the Rangers support must come together and show just how much we want to affect positive change at Ibrox. We all want our passion to be showcased to the world, our flags to fly high, our children to get a buzz like no other when they walk through those hallowed gates.
Lets be clear, this is not about the Union Bears, RSC's or individual supporters. This is about Rangers fans working together to achieve together a lasting legacy, paving the way for Rangers to become an intuitive Club willing to make the effort to improve the fan experience at football and reaping the rewards in doing so. Safe standing can be those first steps, a tangible achievement which we can all tell our children and grandchildren we helped to create.
The Union Bears urge all RSC's and supporters to lend your voice to our fight for safe standing to be introduced at Ibrox so that collectively the Club cannot ignore us. As has been proved many times in the recent past, together we are unstoppable.
Union Bears - No Surrender

You've not said any demands anywhere we would make, just that we would "start getting all arses with demands." Shouldn't be too hard to give a quick list of the demands you imagine? struggling to imagine them myself which is why I'm so confused.
If you think Rangers are going to exclude the only section in Ibrox that has been standing at games for years and years - when you aren't actually allowed technically - from a newly built safe standing section then you are completely off your head to be honest.
Ofcourse all fans are equal but BF1 is the accepted standing section of Ibrox where those who are the most keen to stand and sing are. To exclude them from a newly built standing section for that very purpose, when the current arrangement shouldn't technically be allowed, defies all common sense.

Allowances to lob filled cups of Coca-Cola at away players taking corners.

Avoiding his question I see.

Some right bitter cunts posting on this thread.   

I don't expect us to get preferential treatment over anything but I'm sorry when it comes to this - we are the only section that stands in Ibrox and it would be absolutely bizarre for us not to be in the standing section.
That said, say for example it's CF which is the common example used, there would be more than enough space for the demand.

Well they will be in it if it happens so get it up ye.

I would like to think that other season ticket holders in BF1 who are not members but have stood beside the UB for years would have the chance to move with the group, I would be gutted if me and my boy were left behind.. Fuck this sitting down at the fibaw with some happy clappy cunt behind giving you a tap on the shoulder every time you stand up. Got my tickets in BF1 because it's the singing section and I could stand for 90 minutes,  if the singing section gets moved I expect to get moved with it. 

Wit?
They're pushing it because the whole reason the Union Bears exist is to make Rangers games a better atmosphere. 
Safe standing would be a massive step forward.
To make them more important  gees peace. 

I don't expect us to get preferential treatment over anything but I'm sorry when it comes to this - we are the only section that stands in Ibrox and it would be absolutely bizarre for us not to be in the standing section.
That said, say for example it's CF which is the common example used, there would be more than enough space for the demand.