barkie 201 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I didn't realise they were so serious about a game It's a credit crunch nightmare. The chief executive of the world's biggest corporation gets a phone call in the middle of the night. Thanks to industrial espionage, the company has been bankrupted, assets stripped, bank accounts emptied. When trading starts the next day, even the company name will be gone. If this were real life, the executive might consider jumping out the window. But in the online game of EVE Online, it's all part of the fun. "It is another challenge," said Par Molen, the leader of the "corporation" Band of Brothers (BoB), who got the late-night call. "That's what we live for." Mr Molen and his online colleagues had spent four years building BoB into the dominant force in a game where 200,000 players battle it out in an online galaxy of spaceships and planets. Unlike other multiplayer online games like the hugely popular World of Warcraft, which is split into smaller groups, the thousands of EVE players are in it together. In one virtual galaxy, players build, fight, and trade, joining together to form "corporations" to gain control over sections of the huge starscape. This creates a complex society where anything can happen, and often does. Rules are few, and all of the lying, cheating and stealing that occurs in real life can also happen in the game. A player called "The Mittani" is the shadowy spymaster who runs dozens of agents for his corporation - GoonSwarm. He got the call of his career when a disgruntled BoB director contacted him to say that he was thinking of switching sides. With the director's access to BoB's internal workings, the pair were able to disband the corporation and steal all the assets they could lay their hands on. To add insult to injury, GoonSwarm then re-registered the Band of Brothers name for itself, leaving the former alliance nameless and broken. It's a finale that has been compared to "Apple dissolving Microsoft", and led to some players calling for the game's developer, CCP, to "roll-back" the game to the previous day and cancel the change. Eve Online is about the struggle between giant corporations "Any one director should not have the power to destroy the work of so many people for so many months and years with two mouse clicks," wrote a player called David on an EVE-related blog. But CCP is well-known for keeping its hands off action within the game. Since no rules were broken, the changes stood, and thousands of BoB members woke up to a very different world. Scams in space This is not the first time that rogue bankers and credit fraud have made EVE Online seem more like the financial pages than a space cowboy video game. In January, a player absconded with over 80bn ISK, the game's virtual currency, from an in-game bank. Although the 80bn is only worth a few thousand pounds if exchanged for real money, it represents hours of in-game toil. In an online echo of the real-world banking crisis, the bank's chairman issued a statement to calm a run on deposits, writing: "Dynasty Banking will get over these times and we will continue to strive to earn the public's faith as one of the leading banks of Eve Online". Another scam on an epic scale beyond the fantasies of real conmen was perpetrated in 2006, when a player ran off with 700bn ISK from another EVE bank. "Think of me as a space Robin Hood—steals from the rich and gives to himself," wrote the perpetrator in an EVE-related internet forum. Such swindles left some players in awe of EVE's potential for realism, whilst others called for a stronger code of ethics in the game. But spymaster Mittani scoffed at calls for in-game morals, noting that without dirty tricks, GoonSwarm would have had no chance of toppling a more established corporation like BoB. He said: "We don't have any advantages, so we can't obey your stupid 'space bushido'. We're going to spy, we're going to use defectors, we're going to lie, cheat, steal and be bastards." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelle1880 307 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 That's what so amazing about EVE Online. The story is basically this: Band of brothers was one of the, if not the, biggest alliances in the game. They got infiltrated by a spy wh o stole the money they need to keep the alliance running (Weekly you get a bill which you have to pay, otherwise your alliance disbands). This caused BoB to disband, also causing all their ships (Who were in secure docks) to be open to attack, since those docks ceased working. Cue mass attacks on their fleets, plundering galore,... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue1872 2 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 That's what so amazing about EVE Online. The story is basically this: Band of brothers was one of the, if not the, biggest alliances in the game. They got infiltrated by a spy wh o stole the money they need to keep the alliance running (Weekly you get a bill which you have to pay, otherwise your alliance disbands). This caused BoB to disband, also causing all their ships (Who were in secure docks) to be open to attack, since those docks ceased working. Cue mass attacks on their fleets, plundering galore,... Nah not true mate. I play this game alot Basically this is fucking huge in the world of eve. Bob (band of brothers) controlled a large amount of very rich space that really was a fortress. Eve online is a game that is based on solar systems with jump gates in each one to move from each solar system to the other. Players control the lawless space (anything goes) and the game developers control the safe space for people who don't want to be blown up in their internet space ships. Anyways You capture this lawless space (called 0.0) by dropping towers around the orbit of a moon in 0.0 systems. After a few weeks your sovereignty will go up in these systems. Once you have a high sov you can jam the enemy from coming in with capital ships (huge ships designed for the job cost like 120GBP in real life money) to hit towers and destroy them. Towers need to be destroyed to drop the enemy's hold on the system. BoB had lots of system and had all of them blocked and well defended. a few weeks back a director of one of the holding corps of the alliance decided to fuck with them. He hated the way BoB the alliance was going and thought the leadership was bigged headed. So he stole everything he could 50+billion isk (isk = pounds to us) disbanded the alliance and left his corp. This ment all sovereignty dropped and the alliance was left vulnerable. After that most of the eve alliances hostile to bob came in and took everything they owned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Am I wrong in thinking that this is really sad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,734 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 my brother told me about this a wee while back, never really played eve tbh, looks interesting nonetheless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooperSF 5,792 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I'm confused What is real anymore? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelle1880 307 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 That's what so amazing about EVE Online. The story is basically this: Band of brothers was one of the, if not the, biggest alliances in the game. They got infiltrated by a spy wh o stole the money they need to keep the alliance running (Weekly you get a bill which you have to pay, otherwise your alliance disbands). This caused BoB to disband, also causing all their ships (Who were in secure docks) to be open to attack, since those docks ceased working. Cue mass attacks on their fleets, plundering galore,... Nah not true mate. I play this game alot Basically this is fucking huge in the world of eve. Bob (band of brothers) controlled a large amount of very rich space that really was a fortress. Eve online is a game that is based on solar systems with jump gates in each one to move from each solar system to the other. Players control the lawless space (anything goes) and the game developers control the safe space for people who don't want to be blown up in their internet space ships. Anyways You capture this lawless space (called 0.0) by dropping towers around the orbit of a moon in 0.0 systems. After a few weeks your sovereignty will go up in these systems. Once you have a high sov you can jam the enemy from coming in with capital ships (huge ships designed for the job cost like 120GBP in real life money) to hit towers and destroy them. Towers need to be destroyed to drop the enemy's hold on the system. BoB had lots of system and had all of them blocked and well defended. a few weeks back a director of one of the holding corps of the alliance decided to fuck with them. He hated the way BoB the alliance was going and thought the leadership was bigged headed. So he stole everything he could 50+billion isk (isk = pounds to us) disbanded the alliance and left his corp. This ment all sovereignty dropped and the alliance was left vulnerable. After that most of the eve alliances hostile to bob came in and took everything they owned. Is that not what I said, in a nutshell ? The guy who did it WAS sort of a spy, not just a director. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue1872 2 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Am I wrong in thinking that this is really sad? The game is amazing. Best looking game ever. If you like to play online you'll love games like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue1872 2 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 That's what so amazing about EVE Online. The story is basically this: Band of brothers was one of the, if not the, biggest alliances in the game. They got infiltrated by a spy wh o stole the money they need to keep the alliance running (Weekly you get a bill which you have to pay, otherwise your alliance disbands). This caused BoB to disband, also causing all their ships (Who were in secure docks) to be open to attack, since those docks ceased working. Cue mass attacks on their fleets, plundering galore,... Nah not true mate. I play this game alot Basically this is fucking huge in the world of eve. Bob (band of brothers) controlled a large amount of very rich space that really was a fortress. Eve online is a game that is based on solar systems with jump gates in each one to move from each solar system to the other. Players control the lawless space (anything goes) and the game developers control the safe space for people who don't want to be blown up in their internet space ships. Anyways You capture this lawless space (called 0.0) by dropping towers around the orbit of a moon in 0.0 systems. After a few weeks your sovereignty will go up in these systems. Once you have a high sov you can jam the enemy from coming in with capital ships (huge ships designed for the job cost like 120GBP in real life money) to hit towers and destroy them. Towers need to be destroyed to drop the enemy's hold on the system. BoB had lots of system and had all of them blocked and well defended. a few weeks back a director of one of the holding corps of the alliance decided to fuck with them. He hated the way BoB the alliance was going and thought the leadership was bigged headed. So he stole everything he could 50+billion isk (isk = pounds to us) disbanded the alliance and left his corp. This ment all sovereignty dropped and the alliance was left vulnerable. After that most of the eve alliances hostile to bob came in and took everything they owned. Is that not what I said, in a nutshell ? The guy who did it WAS sort of a spy, not just a director. He was a spy for bob in goonswarm. He wasn't spy for goonswarm in bob. He started to enjoy himself in goons and then they decided to do all that shit. Tis a complicated game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Am I wrong in thinking that this is really sad? The game is amazing. Best looking game ever. If you like to play online you'll love games like this. I've never tried one, solely in fear that I'll become addicted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinViesel 399 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Games that cost real money for in-game stuff are far too dangerous for the finances Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue1872 2 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Games that cost real money for in-game stuff are far too dangerous for the finances Nah it doesn't. People can buy game time cards and trade them for in game cash if they want but i've never done that in my like. Yeah papa it can become addictive but it never gets in the way of my football, social life and work no game should . The game is really amazing for true player vs player action. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelta 0 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 That's what so amazing about EVE Online. The story is basically this: Band of brothers was one of the, if not the, biggest alliances in the game. They got infiltrated by a spy wh o stole the money they need to keep the alliance running (Weekly you get a bill which you have to pay, otherwise your alliance disbands). This caused BoB to disband, also causing all their ships (Who were in secure docks) to be open to attack, since those docks ceased working. Cue mass attacks on their fleets, plundering galore,... Nah not true mate. I play this game alot Basically this is fucking huge in the world of eve. Bob (band of brothers) controlled a large amount of very rich space that really was a fortress. Eve online is a game that is based on solar systems with jump gates in each one to move from each solar system to the other. Players control the lawless space (anything goes) and the game developers control the safe space for people who don't want to be blown up in their internet space ships. Anyways You capture this lawless space (called 0.0) by dropping towers around the orbit of a moon in 0.0 systems. After a few weeks your sovereignty will go up in these systems. Once you have a high sov you can jam the enemy from coming in with capital ships (huge ships designed for the job cost like 120GBP in real life money) to hit towers and destroy them. Towers need to be destroyed to drop the enemy's hold on the system. BoB had lots of system and had all of them blocked and well defended. a few weeks back a director of one of the holding corps of the alliance decided to fuck with them. He hated the way BoB the alliance was going and thought the leadership was bigged headed. So he stole everything he could 50+billion isk (isk = pounds to us) disbanded the alliance and left his corp. This ment all sovereignty dropped and the alliance was left vulnerable. After that most of the eve alliances hostile to bob came in and took everything they owned. did he get that in real money? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintonGrey 365 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Oh Goonswarm, your antics continue to amuse me even eight years on. Jihadswarm was better though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtin281 0 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 avid eve player myself AXE ftw, thats bob finally lost all space Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 9 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Am I wrong in thinking that this is really sad? The game is amazing. Best looking game ever. Then it must have had some facelift since when I last saw it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 9 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Am I wrong in thinking that this is really sad? No, what worries me is others think it isn't. I loathe these online RPG whatever they are games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-RFC 308 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue1872 2 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Am I wrong in thinking that this is really sad? The game is amazing. Best looking game ever. Then it must have had some facelift since when I last saw it. LOL oh it has http://www.eveonline.com/apocrypha/index.html That vid is ingame btw It's just a stunning looking game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue1872 2 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Am I wrong in thinking that this is really sad? No, what worries me is others think it isn't. I loathe these online RPG whatever they are games. I think they're fine. It's just another game to me like fifa or pro evo. People can take them too far and stop working and such. I just find it a great fun game. I've met a whole load of peeps that i would prob never meet in rl as i would never socialize with that kind of person. I would rather play a few hours of eve every night than play COD. What's wrong with that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del 667 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Nothing mate! I agree with you, i played World of Warcraft for a while and it is without a doubt one of the best games i have ever played. Aye some people get addicted to it and take it far but the same could be said for any game or similar things. Ive never played Eve though... whats it about and is it easy to pick up? Do you have to pay to play it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigRFC 1 Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Should just change the subject to "GEEK ALERT!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 9 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Am I wrong in thinking that this is really sad? No, what worries me is others think it isn't. I loathe these online RPG whatever they are games. I think they're fine. It's just another game to me like fifa or pro evo. People can take them too far and stop working and such. I just find it a great fun game. I've met a whole load of peeps that i would prob never meet in rl as i would never socialize with that kind of person. I would rather play a few hours of eve every night than play COD. What's wrong with that? Ah, I do love freudian slips Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 9 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Am I wrong in thinking that this is really sad? The game is amazing. Best looking game ever. Then it must have had some facelift since when I last saw it. LOL oh it has http://www.eveonline.com/apocrypha/index.html That vid is ingame btw It's just a stunning looking game. I agree, that looks nice. But I'd need to see it for myself before professing it looks nicer than Crysis Warhead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelle1880 307 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Am I wrong in thinking that this is really sad? The game is amazing. Best looking game ever. Then it must have had some facelift since when I last saw it. LOL oh it has http://www.eveonline.com/apocrypha/index.html That vid is ingame btw It's just a stunning looking game. I agree, that looks nice. But I'd need to see it for myself before professing it looks nicer than Crysis Warhead. It doesn't, but then again you don't need a £1500 PC for it, it runs amazingly smooth on low end pc's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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