dirtybill 0 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Think we all know the answer to that one. Share then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Sorry i thought it was posted in reply to the statement released by Harris besides all that is common knowledgeMy point being, they kept all this stuff quiet for two years, but have decided to come clean after being exposed....that's not the way these things should work but often is when you are caught doing something wrong...I can't believe i am actually surprised that they have convinced themselves they have done nothing wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Sorry i thought it was posted in reply to the statement released by Harris besides all that is common knowledgeThere's also no mention of the Student Loans or the loaning of PDQ machines, which if I remember correctly, is illegal as per the agreement they will have with the company who provide the machines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
laudrupforever 17 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 They posted it as there financial dealings have been brought to peoples attention, otherwise they would have kept there mouth shut...just like they did for the last two years when bouncing cheques were being written to pay off debts to the RST.Still no explanation as to why the debt didn't appear on the RST books for the last two years..... Share thenCould it have been that the RST's clique thought they might be above answering to Trust members?Could it have been that the RST's clique didn't want people to know about it?Could it have been that the RST's clique knew they handled it badly at the AGM and are seeking to shift the blame?Posed as questions, but all three would be mostly true imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybill 0 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 There's also no mention of the Student Loans or the loaning of PDQ machines, which if I remember correctly, is illegal as per the agreement they will have with the company who provide the machines.No your right some of the pertinent bones of contention still remain unanswered, was the PDQ machine incident not semi explained away? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 No your right some of the pertinent bones of contention still remain unanswered, was the PDQ machine incident not semi explained away?You can't semi-explain things like this.PDQ machines are for the sole use of the owner of the machines as per the agreement with the company.Illegal use of these machines by a 3rd party is..............................well.........................illegal as far as I'm aware.I also think any transactions which go through them for charity could also attract tax rebates as per Govt. Laws covering charities.Did anyone receive any rebates due to payments going through these machines?Did the charity which used these machines receive tax reliefs?So many questions..........................I do a lot of work for charity and every donation we receive gets topped up by the tax man, we need the charities official reg. number to do this and we cannot collect money outwith these stringent laws. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybill 0 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 An EGM should be called imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 An EGM should be called imoProbably, but would it do any good?I think the majority have now given up on the Trust, and they will probably just soldier on regardless.From what I read on here, some on the Board seem to be untouchable.Like I've already said, I don't know any of them personally - maybe it would help if I did, maybe not - so it's certainly nothing personal with me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybill 0 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Probably, but would it do any good?I think the majority have now given up on the Trust, and they will probably just soldier on regardless.From what I read on here, some on the Board seem to be untouchable.Like I've already said, I don't know any of them personally - maybe it would help if I did, maybe not - so it's certainly nothing personal with me.I think it would be an ideal opportunity to put to bed any theories, indescrepencies etc and an opportunity for trust members to ask any questions that need attention instead of trawling around forums getting half truths and stories Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Who paid for the legal advice then? Was it MD or did the Trust have to fork out more money,I sincerely hope the RST was not asked to fund legal advice to investigate potential impropriety by its own board! Surely that's not true? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 I sincerely hope the RST was not asked to fund legal advice to investigate potential impropriety by its own board! Surely that's not true?Well who would have paid for it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Maybe they knew the lawyer......hmmmm...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kplfishtank 4,659 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 i think an EGM would be pointless as the usual suspects will circle the wagons and within 4 weeks they will be coming out with statements of how they can move forward, but imo the best these so called fans can do is blend into the background and let guys who really have the best intrests of our fans have a go at trying to salvage something from this charade Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybill 0 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 i think an EGM would be pointless as the usual suspects will circle the wagons and within 4 weeks they will be coming out with statements of how they can move forward, but imo the best these so called fans can do is blend into the background and let guys who really have the best intrests of our fans have a go at trying to salvage something from this charadeWhen you say "so called fans" what evidence do you have to sugest they are anything else than fans?Just curious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 i think an EGM would be pointless as the usual suspects will circle the wagons and within 4 weeks they will be coming out with statements of how they can move forward, but imo the best these so called fans can do is blend into the background and let guys who really have the best intrests of our fans have a go at trying to salvage something from this charadeI think they should be wound up and a new Trust formed.Start from scratch, get new blood in, and get the club on side as well.Get fighting for the fans and the small, basics that need to be dealt with, and let it grow naturally to become the biggest and best football supporters' trust in the country.Run by fans for fans without any hidden agendas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Well who would have paid for it?I wouldn't know. I can tell you a personal bug-bear of mine as a member of the RST was inept communications with its members. Who would have authorised the funding of legal opinion? Should the RST board be paying for legal advice due to problems the RST board themselves created?It puts me in mind of those MPs who used tax-payers money to take legal steps in their attempt to cover up their expenses scandals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kplfishtank 4,659 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 When you say "so called fans" what evidence do you have to sugest they are anything else than fans?Just curiousyour always curious when it comes to defending the indefensiblei would say that by theyre actions they have nothing but self preservation in mind and couldnt really give a flying feck about they folk who pay subsciptions to keep them in jaffa cakesi dont know any fans who would treat other fans this way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHB 63 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 I wouldn't know. I can tell you a personal bug-bear of mine as a member of the RST was inept communications with its members. Who would have authorised the funding of legal opinion? Should the RST board be paying for legal advice due to problems the RST board themselves created?It puts me in mind of those MPs who used tax-payers money to take legal steps in their attempt to cover up their expenses scandals.It is quite normal for an organisation to seek legal advice in these circumstances. Indeed, it was a prudent and reasonable thing to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 It's a shame that others dealings have cost an orginasation that lost ten thousand pounds last year more money if that is the case...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 So did the RST pay for legal advice for MD or not?Well if MD couldnae pay for his tables...................................................would it be unreasonable to assume he couldnae pay for legal advice?Serious question btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 So did the RST pay for legal advice for MD or not?It'll be in the accounts...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 It'll be in the accounts.........................maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemisis 358 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 It'll be in the accounts......Yes but which set? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHB 63 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 So did the RST pay for legal advice for MD or not?The legal advice would not be specific to MD. The allegations made by Mr. Harris impact the board as a whole and whether the actions and decisions they took were legal. Given that Mr. Harris was on the board for a full year and must have been part of those decisions, this advice would benefit him too.Incidentally, I note that various RST board members have given their views on what happened and that we also have a statement from the RST which challenges Mr. Harris' version of events. Can we now look forward to Mr. Harris showing up on this board to answer those challenges and any questions that some of us may have? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kplfishtank 4,659 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 The legal advice would not be specific to MD. The allegations made by Mr. Harris impact the board as a whole and whether the actions and decisions they took were legal. Given that Mr. Harris was on the board for a full year and must have been part of those decisions, this advice would benefit him too.Incidentally, I note that various RST board members have given their views on what happened and that we also have a statement from the RST which challenges Mr. Harris' version of events. Can we now look forward to Mr. Harris showing up on this board to answer those challenges and any questions that some of us may have?what would be his agenda for making it up?i think deep down you know this whole issue stinks and any mud the "guilty" throw they hope will stickhow many have resigned-good guys from here ive met-they all cant be wrong about the guys who are still hanging in there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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