marmalade1872 40 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 It's not just our club, us fans and the ordinary people on ordinary jobs who are affected by this.We've kinda shafted the whole game in Scotland too. Hearts are struggling to pay their wages cos they're run by another cunt. Dundee Utd are owed money they can ill afford to lose, and Dunfermline players have had to take a pay cut too.We've only got ourselves to blame as well. How many of us tried to add up the sums during the Murray years? How many of us didn't care just how we were going to spend a tenner for every fiver Smelltic spent?Heads up our fucking arses folks.If, after all the investigations, things were deemed to be illegal then there could and should be repercussions for those involved through the law courts.Anyone still think Sir David is a hero? He fucked us, and fucked the Scottish game. He should be stripped of his knighthood.Whyte's just came in to trash the debt as there was no way we were ever going to pay any of it without automatic qualification into the Champions League.strong smell of fish or is it pish Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritishBear 34 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Doesn't matter who his target is, what he is spouting is damaging the club and for me that is unforgiveable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampionsAgain 1,373 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 The press are mostly right. Hate when people say 'daily record pftt'. Head in sand material. Some jurnos are wanks though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Hugh Adam raised the equivalent of £75m through the Rangers Pools, so his importance to Rangers over a thirty year period cannot be overstated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgally 452 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 30 yrs associated with the gers and he comes out and says this,what a cunt, who needs enemies,eh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weshallnotbemoved! 714 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 yaking tripe'The directors just wanted to sit in the directors' box. That's all. When I was on the board, I knew all about them. 'I just didn't know the details of them. They became accepted. 'The revenue were seriously challenging them at that point when I was a director."Directors just wanting to sit in the Director's box," - good opinion he has."I just didn't know the details of them ," blah, blah, blah.. You could take several damning comments from the original quote. Directors are legally responsible whether de jure or de facto in a lot of ways regarding what activities go on in their business.A decent business the size of Rangers should have a functioning, capable board and the freeloaders kept to a minimum.Turning a blind -eye or not pursuing anamolies isn't part of the remit. Nor is it a reason to be excused from the culpability of wrong doing or poor performance within that business.Also, spending a lot of money on something isn't purely representative of being able to operate a sustainable business model.As the OP said, timing is everything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritishBear 34 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Hugh Adam raised the equivalent of £75m through the Rangers Pools, so his importance to Rangers over a thirty year period cannot be overstated.I'm well aware of that.However, being bitter 10 years on and trying to have a dig at David Murray (or whoever his target is) is pointless as he no longer owns us, it's damaging the club, the club you, I and he claim to love.By all means he can have as many pops at Murray/fellow directors as he wants, but try and leave the club out of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boss 1,941 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 it never ceases to amaze me what people are prepared to say at vital times for there own petty reasons. someone attacked aj for trying to stop our sale to whyte once. unbelievable but true.Johnston principally waited until Whyte had taken over before launching his main criticisms and even then spoke in riddles; "watch this man", etc. If he had presented the evidence he collated on Whyte, which made him so sure Whyte was a wrong 'un, before he took over then folk might have listened. Indeed, Johnston even now talks about releasing what he knows "one day". Tell us now, Johnston, show us, give us the evidence. And to paraphrase Johnston, what does he know now that he didn't know before? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weshallnotbemoved! 714 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I'm well aware of that.However, being bitter 10 years on and trying to have a dig at David Murray (or whoever his target is) is pointless as he no longer owns us, it's damaging the club, the club you, I and he claim to love.By all means he can have as many pops at Murray/fellow directors as he wants, but try and leave the club out of it.Its as simple as that.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie_bluenose 20 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Simple fact is we have O'Regan looking to make a mark here and as many believe liewell laying in the backgroundSo we have SFA saying illegal to have this.The British Government bringing this means of remuneration into play with HMRC.We had SFA/UEFA controlling players rights nothing could be done then along comes Bosman takes it to European Courts and hey ho .player power. What I am getting at how can the club be penalised by sfa for using a legitimate scheme set up by the Government. Tell them to get to fuck and take it to European Courts.The question is HMRC say the scheme was run in a way that contravened the rules of the scheme. Not that EBTs are/were illegal.End of the day Government legislation will always override any sfa rule. If challenged in the courts.It really is time for Rangers to publicly start questioning the position of that cunt on the SFA, the Traynor story is a good starting point Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topgoalie 637 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 iam just back from a meeting in glasgows new veladrome yhis morning,we took a strool arround septic park with a councilor friend and i asked him who was paying for all the new infra structure all arround their stadium and he told me the council is paying the tab we are paying for septics work and upgrades take a visit and see with your own eyesDoes not surprise me one bit mate,the opening ceremony is at Parkhead,so no surprise there then,they really do know how to work the system,just have to look at the schooling situation.They are building a new RC school where i live and i know for a fact that it was continually knocked back,but they won in the end with their devious ways FACT. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,617 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 who else was on the board at the time of Hugh Adam? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Johnston principally waited until Whyte had taken over before launching his main criticisms and even then spoke in riddles; "watch this man", etc. If he had presented the evidence he collated on Whyte, which made him so sure Whyte was a wrong 'un, before he took over then folk might have listened. Indeed, Johnston even now talks about releasing what he knows "one day". Tell us now, Johnston, show us, give us the evidence. And to paraphrase Johnston, what does he know now that he didn't know before?The Independent Board made clear their reservations about Whyte roughly three weeks prior to the takeover eventually going through. They also wanted to look at the proposal put forward by P. Murray at that time. No matter what AJ had revealed, it wouldn't have mattered to the majority of the support.The warnings were there, but people chose to either ignore them, or label them as nothing more than taig propaganda. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 who else was on the board at the time of Hugh Adam?MurrayOgilvieSkellyLevyMacDonald Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 no concept of how to run a business. he practically paid for the stadium we sit in.Adam 'practically paid for the stadium we sit in'?I don't recall him pouring tens of millions into The Rangers. In fact, I'm certain he did nothing of the kind.Why would you say such a thing after he sunk the boot into our club when it's down? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 The Independent Board made clear their reservations about Whyte roughly three weeks prior to the takeover eventually going through. They also wanted to look at the proposal put forward by P. Murray at that time. No matter what AJ had revealed, it wouldn't have mattered to the majority of the support.The warnings were there, but people chose to either ignore them, or label them as nothing more than taig propaganda.AJ had a severe credibility gap over that last-gasp bid cobbled together with P. Murray. Finding £25m in May when Miller walked for peanuts in January didn't sit well with many supporters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniemca 479 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Adam 'practically paid for the stadium we sit in'?I don't recall him pouring tens of millions into The Rangers. In fact, I'm certain he did nothing of the kind.Why would you say such a thing after he sunk the boot into our club when it's down?adam was the brain behind the rangers pools(the second biggest sports pools in the world at the time)which paid for the new ibrox.he stated when he left rangers that "we were a house built on sand" and that murray was gambling with the very future of rangers.he was dismissed by the slippery one as a bitter ex employee.but how right he was about that coniving bastard who has brought a national institution to its knees Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 AJ had a severe credibility gap over that last-gasp bid cobbled together with P. Murray. Finding £25m in May when Miller walked for peanuts in January didn't sit well with many supporters.The P.Murray proposal was first vaunted publicly in mid-April, Moses.Anything that got rid of that hooped prick, Miller, suits me! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 adam was the brain behind the rangers pools(the second biggest sports pools in the world at the time)which paid for the new ibrox.he stated when he left rangers that "we were a house built on sand" and that murray was gambling with the very future of rangers.he was dismissed by the slippery one as a bitter ex employee.but how right he was about that coniving bastard who has brought a national institution to its kneesBeing the brains behind the pools is radically different from him being the man who 'practically paid for the stadium we sit in'.And whilst he was on the money regarding Murray, he said a lot more at the time that sounded very bitter indeed. But now? He's wading in with tackety boots when we least need it.The SFA, for example, announced today they are about to begin another investigation into his claims. Why, thanks, Adam. For fuck all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Johnston principally waited until Whyte had taken over before launching his main criticisms and even then spoke in riddles; "watch this man", etc. If he had presented the evidence he collated on Whyte, which made him so sure Whyte was a wrong 'un, before he took over then folk might have listened. Indeed, Johnston even now talks about releasing what he knows "one day". Tell us now, Johnston, show us, give us the evidence. And to paraphrase Johnston, what does he know now that he didn't know before?see its still happening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Adam 'practically paid for the stadium we sit in'?I don't recall him pouring tens of millions into The Rangers. In fact, I'm certain he did nothing of the kind.Why would you say such a thing after he sunk the boot into our club when it's down?because I know what went on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Being the brains behind the pools is radically different from him being the man who 'practically paid for the stadium we sit in'.And whilst he was on the money regarding Murray, he said a lot more at the time that sounded very bitter indeed. But now? He's wading in with tackety boots when we least need it.The SFA, for example, announced today they are about to begin another investigation into his claims. Why, thanks, Adam. For fuck all.and its a world away from no concept how to run a business. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 because I know what went on.Rangers pools did make rangers a lot of money and did help build the stadium but i think you are over egging that pie.Him staying silent if he knew what was going on makes him as culpable as anyone else (if true)Two shots across the bow (one timed to cause rangers trouble) does not make him one fo the good guys, far from it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delparlane 6,001 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Rangers pools did make rangers a lot of money and did help build the stadium but i think you are over egging that pie.Him staying silent if he knew what was going on makes him as culpable as anyone else (if true)Two shots across the bow (one timed to cause rangers trouble) does not make him one fo the good guys, far from it.Thoroughly agree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Rangers pools did make rangers a lot of money and did help build the stadium but i think you are over egging that pie.Him staying silent if he knew what was going on makes him as culpable as anyone else (if true)Two shots across the bow (one timed to cause rangers trouble) does not make him one fo the good guys, far from it.with him being a Murray critic it safe to say you were never likely to be a fan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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