Senna 735 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 After the defeat to Italy on penalties in the World Cup Final, Makélélé initially commented that he was again going to retire from international football. However, he continued to play for France in their qualifiers for UEFA Euro 2008 and even the Euro 2008 finals. Chelsea manager José Mourinho accused France national coach Raymond Domenech of treating Makélélé like a slave and refusing to honor his retirement. FIFA confirmed that any club that refuses to release a player for national team duty is barred from using the player for two matchesWe can just do what we did with Barry, give him a little knock and say he's injured. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedart1952 1,352 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 At the end of the day its up to the individual to decide what he thinks is right and I would back any Rangers player whatever they decide to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonb23 99 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Wallace, Black, Alexander and Broadfoot have made sacrifices to stay at Rangers and we're saying if they get the honour of playing for their national team we should deny them of this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glesgabear81 24 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Leave it to the individual imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie76 15,359 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 And how are we doing that? By having no interest in the national team? Aye very good.Was talking about the football team not the bloody country as a whole, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexiboy 157 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Wallace, Black, Alexander and Broadfoot have made sacrifices to stay at Rangers and we're saying if they get the honour of playing for their national team we should deny them of this?What if these four mentioned get injured whilst away with Scotland what do we do without them.the sfa should be saying no rangers players will be selected during embargo in my opinion Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeoffit 152 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 We can just do what we did with Barry, give him a little knock and say he's injured.Aye, its easy to do that with just one player in the squad, but with 2 or 3 its a little more obvious. I think the player can still be banned if the SFA complain to UEFA, especially if the player plays for us a few days after. Besides, i think its up to the player who he plays for. Its not really for us, or the club to decide if a player plays for his country. Saying that, it could become a real problem with the transfer ban. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senna 735 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Aye, its easy to do that with just one player in the squad, but with 2 or 3 its a little more obvious. I think the player can still be banned if the SFA complain to UEFA, especially if the player plays for us a few days after. Besides, i think its up to the player who he plays for. Its not really for us, or the club to decide if a player plays for his country. Saying that, it could become a real problem with the transfer ban.I'd love it if Ally told the Scottish players that it was their choice to play for the national team, but that if they (rightly imo) chose not to, then he and Rangers would back them to the hilt. Now that'd be a statement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MenHadADream 122 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 He has signed for the best supported team in the land bar none, he hasn't taken a risk WE have, we are payin him good money and we are in the third division, and the point is he is OUR player. He doesn't get paid by the tin pot dictators at the sfa, we pay him. It should be in the contract that its at our discretion whether he plays for them or not. And quite frankly for me its 'or not.' I can understand your point, but I just feel that the choice should be left with the players, regardless of their nationality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango 341 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Don't think we need to worry,levein will not pick Rangers players unless he is desperate even if they are good enough Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie76 15,359 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Ffs, bluedignity has just found the neg rep button Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeoffit 152 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Wasnt really directed at you man, even though i quoted your post. Im not sure that Ally would ever say that to the players mind, no matter what his opinions of the SFA are. Its sad that politics and a few so called "supporters" of Scotland could sour what should be a players proudest moment. I for one will not stop supporting my country because of a tarrier englishman and a few grown men in see you jimmy wigs.Trying to hurt our national team will only have a negative effect on our overall standard of football. Paying to watch Scotland, doesnt go in rhegans pocket, he gets his salary no matter what. That money is supposed to go into grass roots football that in the end will benefit Rangers. Our whole football set up needs a good pull through with a christmas tree, and all this petty negativity plays right into their hands. We cant change it from the outside, looking in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of Orange 84 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 . . . players hands and Rangers should say no, after all is this not the same sfa who have put an embargo on Rangers signing players, a player gets injured playing for the sfa and they won't let us sign a replacement ? Do me a fuckin favour ! Utter bollocksMen have fought and died that we might live in a democracy, who are you to take that decision away from the players? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Was talking about the football team not the bloody country as a whole, Well why didn't you say that then instead of making out we're giving up on the country?"Yes, lets just dump our country like that lot across the city". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Wasnt really directed at you man, even though i quoted your post. Im not sure that Ally would ever say that to the players mind, no matter what his opinions of the SFA are. Its sad that politics and a few so called "supporters" of Scotland could sour what should be a players proudest moment. I for one will not stop supporting my country because of a tarrier englishman and a few grown men in see you jimmy wigs.Trying to hurt our national team will only have a negative effect on our overall standard of football. Paying to watch Scotland, doesnt go in rhegans pocket, he gets his salary no matter what. That money is supposed to go into grass roots football that in the end will benefit Rangers. Our whole football set up needs a good pull through with a christmas tree, and all this petty negativity plays right into their hands. We cant change it from the outside, looking in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonb23 99 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 What if these four mentioned get injured whilst away with Scotland what do we do without them.the sfa should be saying no rangers players will be selected during embargo in my opinionI'd like to think if say, Wallace got injured, we'd have the embargo lifted so we could replace him.At the end of the day I'm more concerened about us accepting an illegal transfer embargo than us losing a player through injury on international duty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie76 15,359 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Well why didn't you say that then instead of making out we're giving up on the country?"Yes, lets just dump our country like that lot across the city".Thought it was obvious since we were talking about the football team, my bad, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glesgabear81 24 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I'd like to think if say, Wallace got injured, we'd have the embargo lifted so we could replace him.At the end of the day I'm more concerened about us accepting an illegal transfer embargo than us losing a player through injury on international duty.It doesn't matter how many times its repeated but the embargo has never and will never be deemed illegal. What law do you suggest was broken and has anyone been arrested? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie76 15,359 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Let's not engage in that war. Ian Black, despite being booed, called his appearance the proudest day of his life. Who are we to deny him that?Forcing our guys not to play for Scotland won't really get us anywhere. There are other (more effective) means to show our displeasure at the governing body.Hear hear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Negri's Beard 1,423 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 A show of hands should be used to ask every single Rangers fan any time a player is called up.Fuck sake Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,660 Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 I'd like to think if say, Wallace got injured, we'd have the embargo lifted so we could replace him.At the end of the day I'm more concerened about us accepting an illegal transfer embargo than us losing a player through injury on international duty.Once upon a time there was a pig that flew . . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,660 Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 Utter bollocksMen have fought and died that we might live in a democracy, who are you to take that decision away from the players?I don't need you to tell me fuck all about fighting and dying for a democracy, both my parents fought for King and Country during WWII and what they sacrificed for has been taken away from us big time. We don't live in a democracy anymore or have you not noticed, certainly not if you are a Protestant Rangers supporter, we are being treated like shit. I'm the guy thats contributing to their wages and Rangers are the club that's paying them. So fuck Scotland and the sfa. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexiboy 157 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I'd like to think if say, Wallace got injured, we'd have the embargo lifted so we could replace him.At the end of the day I'm more concerened about us accepting an illegal transfer embargo than us losing a player through injury on international duty.We had to except it or no football illegal or not.the sfa signed a letter to say that they would pay our debt to scumdee untd then said they never and you think they are going to let us sign players if ours get injured whilst away with Scotland.the sfa don't give a fuck about us that has been demonstrated for the last 6 months.having represented my country at different levels of football it was great standing there proud as punch in that Scotland strip but if the sfa instruct Craig have a shave levein not to select our players then club not stopping any player from being selected.if you ask the players available to risk playing for Scotland and get injured or playing for rangers for a year till embargo lifted its a no brainer.look at mcoist himself super missed 6 months of football breaking his leg whilst playing with Scotland ask him proud Scotsman if he could turn the clock back and miss that game to play all those missed games for Glasgow rangers I think we all know the answer.not for the club to decide has to be the player but during embargo players incase of injury should only be playing for rangers.p.s no surrender Ian black Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
misershill 7 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 . . . players hands and Rangers should say no, after all is this not the same sfa who have put an embargo on Rangers signing players, a player gets injured playing for the sfa and they won't let us sign a replacement ? Do me a fuckin favour ! Question for you?can your cock touch your arse?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 After the defeat to Italy on penalties in the World Cup Final, Makélélé initially commented that he was again going to retire from international football. However, he continued to play for France in their qualifiers for UEFA Euro 2008 and even the Euro 2008 finals. Chelsea manager José Mourinho accused France national coach Raymond Domenech of treating Makélélé like a slave and refusing to honor his retirement. FIFA confirmed that any club that refuses to release a player for national team duty is barred from using the player for two matchesFine.Our Sporting Integrity would be intact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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