Blue and True 311 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 The only side the vast majority of us have is the Rangers side. Only one or two egotists and profiteers are obsessed with Murray to be honest. Who knows what these unelected fans reps have been offered, but it's certainly not done anything for their reputations among the Bears.you see that is the problemYou the only side the vast majority of us have is Rangers yet are critical of 'one or two egotists and profiteers'how can you be so sure they are not on the side of Rangerswhat if they are correct?What if the opinion of a few chase these new people away and its an opportunity lost ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 which is fineAs has been said on this thread we dont have the plans but ask yourself what we do know?We know PM has fronted previous bidsOne based on a CVAOne short of the doshOne after the factIn all cases he was a front let down perhaps by the men behind him.So hes a poor judge of character and underachieves? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and True 311 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Good point, the Yanks go home banner being a prime example. RST / FF backed If I recall?and we will never knowlet this run its course the majority want it so let them step up, if they have the support then we move on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and True 311 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 So hes a poor judge of character and underachieves?who knows but why not give this move a listen get some details see where it goes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damien1 29 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 who knows but why not give this move a listen get some details see where it goesWe've asked for details, none are forthcoming other than 'they are Rangers men', that's not good enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyalist_RFC 222 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 We've asked for details, none are forthcoming other than 'they are Rangers men', that's not good enough. Craig Whyte "Claimed" to be a Rangers man Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram 1,919 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Valid points.The criticism of the Easdales is based on the fact it's not their preferred bidders...no more no less.They have judged them before they have even had a chance to show us what they want to do.Pathetic but they have a track record of this.P.S have the RST rescinded Chuck's honorary membership yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and True 311 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 We've asked for details, none are forthcoming other than 'they are Rangers men', that's not good enough.who did you ask mate and what was it you asked?ok so when they are ready to give details you will listen then?Can I say you are in the undecided camp? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damien1 29 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 who did you ask mate and what was it you asked?ok so when they are ready to give details you will listen then?Can I say you are in the undecided camp?I've asked many on Twitter what exactly are McColl/Murray bringing to the table, had no decent responses.When they are ready? FFS haven't they had enough time to get a plan together?Yes I'm undecided. I only want what's best for Rangers. Destabilising the current board through whatever means is not good for Rangers, particularly when plan B isn't willing to divulge it's plan. Seems ludicrious. The pushing of this destabilisation is running concurrently with the fans on the board campaign. You could say they are running hand in hand. Why not buy into Mather's vision of fan membership? Maybe because others have so much more invested in their own schemes maybe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Why does the RST/F.F/Chris who craves TV Fame all want this guy as part of any package who might be flavour of the month in their takeover bidHe's promised them a trip to Slaters Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 why a u turn?i dont support the easdales ,my opinion is they are crooks and gansters and i dont want them near the club,but that opinion is based on rumour and gut instinct,but if i am proven wrong about them i will be big enough to admit i'm wrong,i was just thanking somebody for providing information,it's accurate information we require because the propaganda we are getting now is doing nothing but causing severe proplems for the club.The same propaganda that made you form the opinion they are crooks and gangsters?Excellent Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary2006 123 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 The same propaganda that made you form the opinion they are crooks and gangsters?Excellentpart of it yes,mcmurdo's 100 million pound garbage yesterday didn't help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and True 311 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I've asked many on Twitter what exactly are McColl/Murray bringing to the table, had no decent responses.When they are ready? FFS haven't they had enough time to get a plan together?Yes I'm undecided. I only want what's best for Rangers. Destabilising the current board through whatever means is not good for Rangers, particularly when plan B isn't willing to divulge it's plan. Seems ludicrious.The pushing of this destabilisation is running concurrently with the fans on the board campaign. You could say they are running hand in hand. Why not buy into Mather's vision of fan membership? Maybe because others have so much more invested in their own schemes maybe?unless you were talking directly to Murray and/or McColl on twitter then you were asking the wrong folk or folk who didnt want to or couldnt divulge.some people/investors know enough to back itHow can you be sure destabilising the board is not for the best long term....better now that when we are in the top flight.Obviously given our recent past people will be unsure or either the current board or anyone trying to come in.will fan membership work some will say yes and some no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 and we will never knowlet this run its course the majority want it so let them step up, if they have the support then we move on.Which scientific poll are you using to come to "the majority" conclusion?One amongst the tweetwankers?The only majority which counts is the one amongst the share holders Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 part of it yes,mcmurdo's 100 million pound garbage yesterday didn't help.So you've seen their wealth?How much are they worth? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and True 311 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 You would think 18 months or so would be more than enough time to make plans and lets the fans know. I await their thoughts in the coming months and years.plans will be in placeits just not right to divulge other than to major investors at the moment Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and True 311 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Which scientific poll are you using to come to "the majority" conclusion?One amongst the tweetwankers?The only majority which counts is the one amongst the share holdersI think the vast majority want to here what they have to say Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 plans will be in placeits just not right to divulge other than to major investors at the momentSo they "will be" or they "are"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damien1 29 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 unless you were talking directly to Murray and/or McColl on twitter then you were asking the wrong folk or folk who didnt want to or couldnt divulge.some people/investors know enough to back itHow can you be sure destabilising the board is not for the best long term....better now that when we are in the top flight.Obviously given our recent past people will be unsure or either the current board or anyone trying to come in.will fan membership work some will say yes and some no.So are the people promoting this talking to McColl/Murray and are therefore privvy to certain information that the majority of fans aren't then? They must be to back the campaign so much. Surely they aren't backing it on a wish and a prayer?Other than the 'bonus situation', which paid out less than our management team are getting and other 'minor' discrepancies, what exactly have the current board done that would warrant their removal in it's entirety?I think fan membership will work, I don't think fan ownership will though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,275 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 It's simple now IMO...just get it over with one way or another and let's move on Sandy called it right; the fans (with no agenda) are sick of it, the rest unfortunately seem to be loving it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and True 311 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 So they "will be" or they "are"?sorry 'are' Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 It's simple now IMO...just get it over with one way or another and let's move on Sandy called it right; the fans (with no agenda) are sick of it, the rest unfortunately seem to be loving it.If the rebels are defeated what happens then?Do they wait six months then re start their destabilising process all over again? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 sorry 'are'So plans are in place but they can't divulge them to the fans?Or have they divulged them to a select few fans? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and True 311 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 So are the people promoting this talking to McColl/Murray and are therefore privvy to certain information that the majority of fans aren't then? They must be to back the campaign so much. Surely they aren't backing it on a wish and a prayer?well plenty are backing the status quo is this on a wing and a prayer without detail?Other than the 'bonus situation', which paid out less than our management team are getting and other 'minor' discrepancies, what exactly have the current board done that would warrant their removal in it's entirety?Its not in its entiretyI think fan membership will work, I don't think fan ownership will though.Sorry but as this debate would show I dont believe it would Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,275 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 If the rebels are defeated what happens then?Do they wait six months then re start their destabilising process all over again?If they don't have the support of enough of the shareholders then they have a choice to make; put up or shut up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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