Young Bob 1,360 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I am still waiting to hear what the alternative is once the pitchfork brigade get their way.The board are removed...then what?Retire to the Blue Room for tiffin no less. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherster Perry 1977 18 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Zero input?Are you for real?Are you even aware of what has happened in the last year and a half?Do you have any idea how much effort must have gone into saving our club?This is the problem those with the pitchforks are drumming up village idiots to fight their cause.Plenty of effort? Yes. Saving the club? Get real. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherster Perry 1977 18 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 If the club sells itself how many buyers were there fighting with bids for us?No one will ever know, by design. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,446 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 That's where it doesn't add up. Wasn't it the case that he only put in about £25k but walked away with over a million or so? That million or so was fans' and investors' money. He cashed in shares that he got for fuck all, he never bought them and saw the value of them rise through normal market conditions.Got for fuck all?Apart from the nous about how to actually get a football club off it's arse and back to being a fully functioning entity pulling 40,000 plus crowds?I mean actually doing it, not talking about doing it or trying to play brinksmanship so they got it for the lowest possible price.What price do you put on that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ace 49 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 If the club sells itself how many buyers were there fighting with bids for us?Do you really believe that CW fought to get his own administrators in place for no reason? Administrators that he had plenty of previous dealings with? And you must be aware of CW's MO in dealing with his previous companies? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rfc#1. 1,877 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I am still waiting to hear what the alternative is once the pitchfork brigade get their way.The board are removed...then what?They get replaced with 'real' Rangers men,who work for buttons or free. Then everything will magically sort itself oot when mini reveals his grand plan to bring in investment. Or something like that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram 1,919 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 No one will ever know, by design.Despite the BDO report clearing D&P of any wrong doing.....what part of the facts is so hard to accept from the Murray supporters.They didn't have the money end of story.If they did they would own the club but they don't and now want to get it on the cheap without paying out to get it.Sound familiar? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherster Perry 1977 18 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Despite the BDO report clearing D&P of any wrong doing.....what part of the facts is so hard to accept from the Murray supporters.They didn't have the money end of story.If they did they would own the club but they don't and now want to get it on the cheap without paying out to get it.Sound familiar?Please don't expect everyone to just buy into your comfortable version of the story. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ace 49 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Got for fuck all?Apart from the nous about how to actually get a football club off it's arse and back to being a fully functioning entity pulling 40,000 plus crowds?I mean actually doing it, not talking about doing it or trying to play brinksmanship so they got it for the lowest possible price.What price do you put on that?And who put that club on it's arse in the first place? That's right, his mate Craig.And do you remember why it was put on it's arse? To suit CW's own ends. What could those ends possibly be that he would withhold paying what was due to intentionally trigger administration? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram 1,919 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Please don't expect everyone to just buy into your comfortable version of the story.So BDO conducted a flawed investigation then?Is that what you are basically saying that BDO were in cahoots with D&P and Whyte? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ace 49 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Despite the BDO report clearing D&P of any wrong doing.....what part of the facts is so hard to accept from the Murray supporters.They didn't have the money end of story.If they did they would own the club but they don't and now want to get it on the cheap without paying out to get it.Sound familiar?Just like money can be syphoned without being illegal, situations can also be manipulated without being illegal. Come on to fuck, do some people really think that everything is above board? These people are well versed in this sort of thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram 1,919 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Just like money can be syphoned without being illegal, situations can also be manipulated without being illegal. Come on to fuck, do some people really think that everything is above board? These people are well versed in this sort of thing.And you have proof of this.....or is it just more spin and conjecture from the Murray supporters? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ace 49 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 So BDO conducted a flawed investigation then?Is that what you are basically saying that BDO were in cahoots with D&P and Whyte?Have you never heard of companies working together to suit their own ends? Like banks working together to fix lending rates, or other companies who are market rivals fixing the prices of their commodities? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,446 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 And who put that club on it's arse in the first place? That's right, his mate Craig.And do you remember why it was put on it's arse? To suit CW's own ends. What could those ends possibly be that he would withhold paying what was due to intentionally trigger administration?That's one conspiracy theory you either believe or you don't.Irrespective of how it got there, that's where it was - Green took a punt and made it work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram 1,919 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Have you never heard of companies working together to suit their own ends? Like banks working together to fix lending rates, or other companies who are market rivals fixing the prices of their commodities?So we can expect another "Libor" scandal in a few years time when BDO are investigated and found to be in cahoots with D&P and Whyte?Do me a favour and come back to the debate when you have facts to support your crackpot theory Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherster Perry 1977 18 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 So BDO conducted a flawed investigation then?Is that what you are basically saying that BDO were in cahoots with D&P and Whyte?Cahoots?No. What I'm saying is that people make a living through financial and legal loopholes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stfu 596 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 No one will ever know, by design.You may want to refresh your memory.http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/item/1195-administrators-latest Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ace 49 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 And you have proof of this.....or is it just more spin and conjecture from the Murray supporters?Take a look at the background of all that were involved in the process and tell me what proof you will find. Does it mean that they didn't do what they did because there is no proof of wrongdoing? Do you think they make a living out of screwing and flipping companies and then go all above board once they buy Rangers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram 1,919 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Cahoots?No. What I'm saying is that people make a living through financial and legal loopholes.Was the report challenged by Murray and his cohorts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ace 49 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 That's one conspiracy theory you either believe or you don't.Irrespective of how it got there, that's where it was - Green took a punt and made it work.It's not a fucking conspiracy theory. There was no need for the club to go into admin. CW engineered the situation. Where did all the money go that was due to be paid to the taxman? Has that been found yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram 1,919 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Take a look at the background of all that were involved in the process and tell me what proof you will find. Does it mean that they didn't do what they did because there is no proof of wrongdoing? Do you think they make a living out of screwing and flipping companies and then go all above board once they buy Rangers?Again it's all conjecture on your part and short on facts. Show me the facts.Surely Murray and his group would have been digging relentlessly to expose this if they thought this was the case? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 Don't ever confuse the Board members with being Rangers! we, the fans are what makes the Club what it is, not the hangers on that are only here to make a fast buck out of us.Sadly it shows that some fans care more about being correct about the Board before the Club.Who needs enemies right enough...Your right, apart from the fact you are completely wrong.It's not the board he is taking to court, it is THE CLUB.How do you know Mr Ticketus and the rest of Minico aren't out to line their pockets ?They are putting nothing in and won't tell us who they are involved with or what their plans are. What are they hiding ?These scurrilous stories have got Mini's pawprints all over them.How can anyone want a clueless corporate fuckwit like Mini near Ibrox again ?He's more toxic than the tims. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ace 49 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 So we can expect another "Libor" scandal in a few years time when BDO are investigated and found to be in cahoots with D&P and Whyte?Do me a favour and come back to the debate when you have facts to support your crackpot theoryBy the very nature of your phrase "another Libor scandal", you admit that it has happened before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherster Perry 1977 18 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Was the report challenged by Murray and his cohorts?The report was received in good faith. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ace 49 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Your right, apart from the fact you are completely wrong.It's not the board he is taking to court, it is THE CLUB.How do you know Mr Ticketus and the rest of Minico aren't out to line their pockets ?They are putting nothing in and won't tell us who they are involved with or what their plans are. What are they hiding ?These scurrilous stories have got Mini's pawprints all over them.How can anyone want a clueless corporate fuckwit like Mini near Ibrox again ?He's more toxic than the tims.Noone involved with the requistioners (as far as I'm aware) have a track record of screwing companies like some of the incumbent board members have. They were all put in place by CG who was put in place by CW. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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