novosleftboot 6,285 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Stumps on day 1 Aus 273 for 8. Only the 114 run partnership between Haddin and Johnson taking the shine off what was certainly England's day.Star man, Broad with figures 20 3 65 5For the most part, though, I'd say it was poor batting from Aus, rather than outstanding bowling from England. There will be several batsmen disappointed wih the way they got out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,185 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I think England missed a great chance to really put the Aussies in the shit. Looks a great batting wicket. Big 1st Innings lead should be achievable. Im hoping Carberry can score big. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 For fuck sake Australia. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 To be honest, 350 is probably a competitive score, and it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that Australia make that. The problem is that Lyon doesn't know what end of the bat to hold, so Harris will need to stick around and hope Haddin can get past his century.Intriguing first day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Looking at the fall of wickets, England should be fairly disappointed.It's their day, certainly; but they had a real chance to bowl Australia out for less than 250. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Looking at it, tonight's morning session will be crucial. If Australia can survive the full morning, they're still very much in this test match.It's a good batting pitch, but bowl in the right areas and you'll get wickets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
novosleftboot 6,285 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 To be honest, 350 is probably a competitive score, and it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that Australia make that. The problem is that Lyon doesn't know what end of the bat to hold, so Harris will need to stick around and hope Haddin can get past his century.Intriguing first day.Can't see that, tbh. I fully expect England to wrap it up within 10 overs tonight and doubt the score will pass 300. The ball is still newish so should do a bit. I can see a massive 1st innings lead coming, as the forecast is for glorious batting conditions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Can't see that, tbh. I fully expect England to wrap it up within 10 overs tonight and doubt the score will pass 300. The ball is still newish so should do a bit. I can see a massive 1st innings lead coming, as the forecast is for glorious batting conditions.Why is that England can take two wickets in ten overs with a new-ish ball - yet Australia won't be able to stop England batting forever immediately after? .The only thing the weather changes is making the ball harder to swing, and Australian seamers don't generally rely too much on swinging the ball anyway. If Harris, Johnson and Siddle bowl in the right areas, they'll take wickets just like Broad and Anderson have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,657 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 How can Australia get from 70+ for 2 to 273 for 8 at stumps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
novosleftboot 6,285 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Why is that England can take two wickets in ten overs with a new-ish ball - yet Australia won't be able to stop England batting forever immediately after? .Because England have a far better batting lineup to start with, and only need to get two tailenders out (or to be fair to Harris, one lower order bat and one rabbit)Have you seen the Aussie wickets? If so, would you agree that at least 5 of them were poor dismissals from the batsman's point of view?I cannot see that many English wickets being thrown away cheaply. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
novosleftboot 6,285 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 When was the last time a full day passed without a drs referral being taken?(Although England were denied one for taking too long to decide!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGM_72 3,646 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 When was the last time a full day passed without a drs referral being taken?(Although England were denied one for taking too long to decide!)I thought DRS was dropped for this series?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
novosleftboot 6,285 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I thought DRS was dropped for this series?!Nope! Quite the opposite, in fact, in so far as live time snicko has been introduced. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,657 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Australia have attacked England so far if the can get to 300 then bowl England out. I hope the settle down for innings 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Because England have a far better batting lineup to start with, and only need to get two tailenders out (or to be fair to Harris, one lower order bat and one rabbit)Have you seen the Aussie wickets? If so, would you agree that at least 5 of them were poor dismissals from the batsman's point of view?I cannot see that many English wickets being thrown away cheaply.At least five dismissals are poor from the batsmen's point of view in most matches. I also think for large spells England have been pretty poor with the ball. They aren't making things happen.If Siddle, Johnson and Harris bowl well, and Watson grabs his usual occasional wicket, England won't reach 350. Big ifs, but 350 is always a competitive score, and there's no reason Australia can't make it/near it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGM_72 3,646 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Nope! Quite the opposite, in fact, in so far as live time snicko has been introduced.Interesting. Cheers, I must have made that up in my head Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
novosleftboot 6,285 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 At least five dismissals are poor from the batsmen's point of view in most matches. I also think for large spells England have been pretty poor with the ball. They aren't making things happen.If Siddle, Johnson and Harris bowl well, and Watson grabs his usual occasional wicket, England won't reach 350. Big ifs, but 350 is always a competitive score, and there's no reason Australia can't make it/near it.It's all ifs and buts, really, as anything could still happen. Obviously we'll have a better idea of what a par score is after both sides have batted. One thing I can tell you with certainty, though, is that, at this stage, I wouldn't switch positions with the Aussies Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 It's all ifs and buts, really, as anything could still happen. Obviously we'll have a better idea of what a par score is after both sides have batted. One thing I can tell you with certainty, though, is that, at this stage, I wouldn't switch positions with the AussiesAbsolutely.England could make 500+ or be all out for 150. At this stage it's absolutely adv England, but probably not as big an advantage as they should have had. That Haddin-Johnson partnership was something they absolutely could have done without. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Interesting. Cheers, I must have made that up in my head There was a while where it looked like they weren't going to use hotspot, if that's what you're thinking of. AGM_72 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
novosleftboot 6,285 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Absolutely.England could make 500+ or be all out for 150. At this stage it's absolutely adv England, but probably not as big an advantage as they should have had. That Haddin-Johnson partnership was something they absolutely could have done without.Very much so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchellenman 20 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 As good as the day was, you can't properly judge a pitch until both teams have batted on it! England bowled well, but Australia gave wickets away, not that I'm complaining!Australian media certainly had their noses rubbed in it with that Broad 5 fer Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchellenman 20 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Last night, thankfully was possibly the quietest nightshift ever, so I saw every ball!And Swann deserves a medal for his efforts yesterday, bravo! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Last night, thankfully was possibly the quietest nightshift ever, so I saw every ball!And Swann deserves a medal for his efforts yesterday, bravo!Swann done very well yesterday.I think Cook only used him to rest the seamers, but he had to be on the money otherwise he'd bleed runs. But he kept it tight, and consistently got the line and length right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Day off tomorrow so going to attempt an all-nighter. Beers in the fridge, Test starting to take shape. England won't like to be bowling after an hour. Don't see the Oz tail wagging long anyway.Really interested to see how Carberry goes. Could be the dark horse of the series...is that racist? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Day off tomorrow so going to attempt an all-nighter. Beers in the fridge, Test starting to take shape. England won't like to be bowling after an hour. Don't see the Oz tail wagging long anyway.Really interested to see how Carberry goes. Could be the dark horse of the series...is that racist? Harris can hit it a little. Lyon is on the ropes from ball one.Basically the Aussie score will only be improved by Haddin from here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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