Barrhead loyalist 10 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Why no vanguard bears at meeting ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 He'll be meeting with the fans associations, to test the waters on an second share issue to raise funds.i dont see many fans investing in a new share issue tbh.i think it will be mostly the institutional investors that will take up a new share issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 i dont see many fans investing in a new share issue tbh.i think it will be mostly the institutional investors that will take up a new share issue.I agree, I don't see the majority of our fan base buying into a second share issue. But, Wallace wouldn't be doing his job right. If he didn't ask the question to gauge opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I agree, I don't see the majority of our fan base buying into a second share issue. But, Wallace wouldn't be doing his job right. If he didn't ask the question to gauge opinion.fair point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bob 1,360 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I agree, I don't see the majority of our fan base buying into a second share issue. But, Wallace wouldn't be doing his job right. If he didn't ask the question to gauge opinion.Would he not be asking the wrong people in this case? The guys invited so far are all Murrayites. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Would he not be asking the wrong people in this case? The guys invited so far are all Murrayites.Regardless of what opinion some fans have on certain individuals. We are all still supporters of our club. If Wallace gets a no. Then really, it's no harm done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bob 1,360 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Regardless of what opinion some fans have on certain individuals. We are all still supporters of our club. If Wallace gets a no. Then really, it's no harm done.He would be getting the personal opinion of certain so called supporters reps who don't communicate with the people they claim to represent. Not really the ideal type of person to ask. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrhead loyalist 10 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 To be honest the VB are the only fans group I take any notice of only group without an agenda , Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 To be honest the VB are the only fans group I take any notice of only group without an agenda ,Only group without an inward agenda.Being about the good of the club is their agenda Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennistoun Rangers 426 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 To be honest the VB are the only fans group I take any notice of only group without an agenda ,I heard they got their blazers in return for their gangster, bullies and paramilitary element to provide "Muscle" for the Easdales Cartel as they smuggle Cocaine on the team bus into Forfar and Stenhousemuir Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainofIndustry 921 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The big misconception put forward by the Rebels was that VB were behind the board. Despite VB saying from the off they were never pro or against, we only wanted the nonsense resolved and whoever to get on with running the club in an honest and financially sound basis. The Rebs turned on every Rangers fan who didn't back their behaviour and smear tactics, which in turn, lost them the goodwill of the majority of the support.Any VB's on here will tell you, many are anti Stockbridge, many don't see what he's done wrong and some didn't know what was for the best or who to support. Like RM, you can say what you want about the board, good or bad. No one will be banned for saying Stockbridge is a c@@@ and they want him bagged and likewise, no one will be criticised for supporting the board.Murray's biggest mistake was recruiting the most divisive figures to ever emerge amongst our support.I concur fully. I was never at any stage "pro-board", I was wholly unconvinced by the reqs and their laughably amateur campaign. By forcing all shareholders & proxies into a shoot-out, the reqs saw to it that I became pro-board by default. I voted to retain them all.I would welcome the opportunity to meet and question the board but I don't imagine I'll get the chance at this stage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendry 4 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The big misconception put forward by the Rebels was that VB were behind the board. Despite VB saying from the off they were never pro or against, we only wanted the nonsense resolved and whoever to get on with running the club in an honest and financially sound basis. The Rebs turned on every Rangers fan who didn't back their behaviour and smear tactics, which in turn, lost them the goodwill of the majority of the support.Any VB's on here will tell you, many are anti Stockbridge, many don't see what he's done wrong and some didn't know what was for the best or who to support. Like RM, you can say what you want about the board, good or bad. No one will be banned for saying Stockbridge is a c@@@ and they want him bagged and likewise, no one will be criticised for supporting Says it all really 'many are anti Stockbridge' I despair it should be everyone of our members,VB I just don't know what your gripe is but it's some chip you have on your shoulder, someone is playing your group like fiddle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 What u on about henry Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Says it all really 'many are anti Stockbridge' I despair it should be everyone of our members,VB I just don't know what your gripe is but it's some chip you have on your shoulder, someone is playing your group like fiddle.Really and why is that the case?I am somewhat startled that we suddenly have PLC business guru's throughout the whole support. All with a wise eye on the board room and all understanding exactly the roles and responsibilities of each individual.Then again maybe it's just rabble rousing and those without a clue following on because they read about it on the internet.I've no issue with anyone holding any opinion but at they should at least have a semblance of understanding about the subject that they are opining about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamibianBear 1,851 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Really and why is that the case?I am somewhat startled that we suddenly have PLC business guru's throughout the whole support. All with a wise eye on the board room and all understanding exactly the roles and responsibilities of each individual.Then again maybe it's just rabble rousing and those without a clue following on because they read about it on the internet.I've no issue with anyone holding any opinion but at they should at least have a semblance of understanding about the subject that they are opining about.Come on mate, you know that's not how forums work. You need opinions from people with no clue except what they overheard (second hand) down the pub from that mate of his mate right?This financial debacle that we have suffered from over the last two years has made financial geniuses of us all. Well, opinionated idiots might be a better description.Sad when we talk more about the finances of our club than we do the football. Did we ever discuss finances before 2011? I couldn't even name the boards from back then with the exception of the likes of DM. Now I know (or read about at least) every single little bit about all the board and less about the players.So, so sad. CW really fucked us over eh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendry 4 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Really and why is that the case?I am somewhat startled that we suddenly have PLC business guru's throughout the whole support. All with a wise eye on the board room and all understanding exactly the roles and responsibilities of each individual.Then again maybe it's just rabble rousing and those without a clue following on because they read about it on the internet.I've no issue with anyone holding any opinion but at they should at least have a semblance of understanding about the subject that they are opining about.So you think Stockbridge is doing a good job then, ok then tell me why. My opinion he's just a parasite put in place by Green for Greens benefit and his cronies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 So you think Stockbridge is doing a good job then, ok then tell me why. My opinion he's just a parasite put in place by Green for Greens benefit and his cronies.I have no idea what type of job he is doing because I do not possess the requisite information.Am I happy with how the club is being run? No.Is this the fault of a CFO. I doubt it very much, but again I do not know.I have no idea of his remit as set by the CEO.Sorry if that is a boring answer but it is probably the most accurate you are going to get from anyone outwith the board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainofIndustry 921 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 So you think Stockbridge is doing a good job then, ok then tell me why. My opinion he's just a parasite put in place by Green for Greens benefit and his cronies.My opinion is it's clear that none of Stockbridge's critics have the first idea of what an FD's role involves. I've worked for many companies and I have yet to find a single FD who is happy to spunk the company's cash. Whoever is responsible for overspend at Rangers over the last year, it certainly isn't the FD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoldierBlue1 499 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Why no vanguard bears at meeting ?IMO GW will be making a big mistake by not talking to the VBs as they are the only ones without an agenda and will tell him the truth on how the real supporters feel. WATP Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawsburst 1,381 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Interestingly GW has insisted on a separate meeting with each group, hope they are prepared for a few home truths. A very shrewd flanking move by GW. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Interestingly GW has insisted on a separate meeting with each group, hope they are prepared for a few home truths.A very shrewd flanking move by GW.eh?you mean the one guy is going to attend three different meetings with his three different hats Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstamomusa 3,811 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Maybe he is meeting with them so they can hand in their season tickets, after all so many of them have said they will be doing that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 But he's not said he's meeting with ALL the fans has he? He is meeting with a group of fans, that is positive IMO. You want to meet with him, get yourself organised and request a meeting...rather than making futile complaints on a fans message board.Aye right he is going to meet me ha hq ha.I don't proffess to represent anyone.Thats the Issue here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Interestingly GW has insisted on a separate meeting with each group, hope they are prepared for a few home truths. A very shrewd flanking move by GW.They are all the same people anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 How's this for irony?@ChrisGraham76: @JohnDCGow I sincerely hope Wallace is wise enough to realise the source of the poison being spread. We've seen how difficult it can be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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