Guardian 4,281 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I think a swift rebuttal and the threat of legal action would have allayed the "fear" in a lot of fans tbh.You can be sure the article was written in such a way it will be opinion and not legally actionable.When they printed more stories about us threatening legal action, would you want us giving swift rebuttals and more threats of legal action.The board would spend their entire day issuing rebuttals to every press hack who writes pish.As for the great unwashed, it is not threats of legal action that are suppressing the land deals story. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 There is a link going about facebook from videocelts saying "report claims sevco could be in administration in 2 weeks" Rangers should be going after these beasts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ace 49 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 You can be sure the article was written in such a way it will be opinion and not legally actionable.When they printed more stories about us threatening legal action, would you want us giving swift rebuttals and more threats of legal action.The board would spend their entire day issuing rebuttals to every press hack who writes pish.As for the great unwashed, it is not threats of legal action that are suppressing the land deals story.Wouldn't that be what a PR department would do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Wouldn't that be what a PR department would do?He does fuck all for Rangers fc. But if there was an accusation going around about board members you bet any money he will have a written statement sent out to every media outlet in the country. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 There was a club statement regarding this weeks ago.Wallace said we were fine and there was no risk of admin.Have you any evidence that makes you believe we are in a perilous state. ?Please feel free to share it.other than Wallaces say so, have you any evidence that makes you believe we are not in a perilous state?Please feel free to share it.See how easy it is?...the question is rhetorical, but until we start to show signs that a sustainable business model is in place, we are always open to that question. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 other than Wallaces say so, have you any evidence that makes you believe we are not in a perilous state?Please feel free to share it.See how easy it is?...the question is rhetorical, but until we start to show signs that a sustainable business model is in place, we are always open to that question.And how would sir like such to be demonstrated? Lets be honest some just love the thought of crisis, and not just those of the stretched hoop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawsburst 1,381 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 other than Wallaces say so, have you any evidence that makes you believe we are not in a perilous state?Please feel free to share it.See how easy it is?...the question is rhetorical, but until we start to show signs that a sustainable business model is in place, we are always open to that question.Isn't GW's word good enough for you, are you inferring that he is lying, c'mon spit it out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 And how would sir like such to be demonstrated?Lets be honest some just love the thought of crisis, and not just those of the stretched hoop.It will be demonstated the way every business does it - show a viable business plan that maps a route to profitability.However, the point was not to answer the question, but to show how easy it is to naysay it, without any evidence to the contrary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,122 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I mean have paedo FC discussed dodgy land deals on a daily basis?To be fair newspapers ain't printing shite about the mhanks everyday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Isn't GW's word good enough for you, are you inferring that he is lying, c'mon spit it out.Rangers fans listened to the previous Rangers boards and took there word for it for far to long. Look where that got us.We're running out of money so what do you expect some Rangers fans to think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Isn't GW's word good enough for you, are you inferring that he is lying, c'mon spit it out. you miss the point. I am inferring nothing about what Wallace says, and I do trust him. But while we continue to report losses and have Directors saying we will be down to the last million etc etc, its easy for people to start rumours that we are close to admin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 It will be demonstated the way every business does it - show a viable business plan that maps a route to profitability.However, the point was not to answer the question, but to show how easy it is to naysay it, without any evidence to the contrary.Define a viable business plan. Your right, this rhetorical question thing is a piece of piss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 To be fair newspapers ain't printing shite about the mhanks everyday.That was my point, and raison d'etre for these spate of Rangers finance stories. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Rangers fans listened to the previous Rangers boards and took there word for it for far to long. Look where that got us.We're running out of money so what do you expect some Rangers fans to think?Thinking would be a first step, I agree, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,122 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 That was my point, and raison d'etre for these spate of Rangers finance stories.In fact I retract my first statement.They are not printing shite about the mhanks full stop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,263 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Why is it that when a bunch of pedo loving tims start rumors and telling lies there are some on here that take the bait and and start believing them.Wallace has said there's no chance of a 2nd admin, yet the scum start their obsessive rumors and we fall for it.I just wish this social media crap was around when the mhanky mob were 24 hours from liquidation and when they were wanting to sell the pedodome to stay alive before the bunnet came and gave them pacific shelf.....I just wish Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,510 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Isn't GW's word good enough for you, are you inferring that he is lying, c'mon spit it out.I would expect any CEO to protect the shareprice by not panicing the market with doom and gloom statements to be honest.i like Wallace and think he seems like the kinda guy who could be great for our club in the coming years if we can hold onto him.I do however think that he may have been left with a mess that he will struggle to turn around without external financial backing.In saying that, I have no reason to believe this particular story. Im not convinced we are in a safe place, but at the same time, Im also pretty sure the media dont need much encouragement to paint scare stories without much validation.Wallace deserves his shot, and even if things do take a turn for the worse, he should not automatically be cast as a bad guy. Im willing to let him try to turn it around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,598 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 The obsession of our mhanky ghuests always makes me smile, no matter what time of day it is they nearly always out number us. I blame the state funded apartheid schooling and the middle parting "there there my son" religious instruction for it. Somebody should set up a helpline for these poor unfortunates. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawsburst 1,381 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 you miss the point. I am inferring nothing about what Wallace says, and I do trust him. But while we continue to report losses and have Directors saying we will be down to the last million etc etc, its easy for people to start rumours that we are close to admin.No one said we would be down to our last anything, believing rumours is as bad as starting them, you obviously think GW is gassing but are not candid enough to say so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 No one said we would be down to our last anything, believing rumours is as bad as starting them, you obviously think GW is gassing but are not candid enough to say so.I am referring to the oft quoted Stockbridge assertion that we will have £1million left by April.Your comment re Wallace is simply wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawsburst 1,381 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I am referring to the oft quoted Stockbridge assertion that we will have £1million left by April.Your comment re Wallace is simply wrong. Brian asserted no such thing, as to GW have you made up your mind yet as to whether he is truthful or would you rather not say.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I am referring to the oft quoted Stockbridge assertion that we will have £1million left by April.Your comment re Wallace is simply wrong.Yet you only quote a third of what he said.You miss out it was a worst case scenario and didn't include retail figures. Plus we also have borrowing facilities.Funny you missed the bits that didn't suit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,510 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Yet you only quote a third of what he said.You miss out it was a worst case scenario and didn't include retail figures. Plus we also have borrowing facilities.Funny you missed the bits that didn't suit.I agree about the retail figures, but not about the 'worst case scenario' bit.I seriously doubt he quotes the figure to include every single potential one off cost that could possibly happen.Stockbridge should never have come out with the £1m quote, it has been nothing but bother. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 other than Wallaces say so, have you any evidence that makes you believe we are not in a perilous state?Please feel free to share it.See how easy it is?...the question is rhetorical, but until we start to show signs that a sustainable business model is in place, we are always open to that question.You could start with the auditors statement, but what would they know ?Companies in trouble don't usually knock back the chance of a million quid either.Directors misleading shareholders deliberately I'd a criminal offence and at best would see them struck off as directors.The ball is back in your court. Any evidence we are in a perilous state ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Yet you only quote a third of what he said.You miss out it was a worst case scenario and didn't include retail figures. Plus we also have borrowing facilities.Funny you missed the bits that didn't suit.You have completely missed the point of my recent posts in this thread haven't you? completely. You say you haven't, but you have.The point is not what is correct or what retail figures we include or dont. The point is until we start posting figures that show a path on the road to profitability, we are open to any rumour at all, including this one. What stockbridge did mean or didn't mean is irrelevent. What stuck was the £1M quote.How many times....oh we have borrowing facilities do we? brilliant. If we aint down to our last million we shouldn't need them any time soon then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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