legalbeagle 3,734 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 You'll be looking for Ally's boaby ya embarrassment.I've said something incorrect? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 It only became daft when you entered it.You may have misunderstood. Just point me to the quote Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker 377 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Just for clarity, he did I heard the interview on the radio.Secondly, if you are defending the cunt, you can fuck off aswell ya clown.Listen to it again or get a grown up to explain it to you. He didnt fkn say it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I've said something incorrect?No but you are defending the indefensible Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 No but you are defending the indefensibleWhat am I defending? I am pointing out a fact, which is that he didn't say acceptable, it really is that simple. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,097 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 All the stuff in quotes in the article.given that all of us.... well most of us are all pretty intelligent, enough to read between the lineswhat do you think ally was meaning with his comments? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 What am I defending? I am pointing out a fact, which is that he didn't say acceptable, it really is that simple.No it isn't.You can argue semantics all you fucking want.Did he say the word acceptable? No.But his verbiage effectively said it was acceptable and that is unacceptable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Of course it's acceptable, we need to progress, this is the only thing that is important. So it's acceptable in the sense that we would accept it, no one is going to say we don't deserve to be there if we get in through the playoffs.However, if Ally can't win the league, and we have to rely on a playoff the get up to the top flight, then from a managerial standpoint it is far from acceptable and he should hang his head in shame for not being able to win the league, which we really should be destroying.EDIT: he should not be the manager if he fails to WIN this league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Of course it's acceptable, we need to progress, this is the only thing that is important. So it's acceptable in the sense that we would accept it, no one is going to say we don't deserve to be there if we get in through the playoffs.However, if Ally can't win the league, and we have to rely on a playoff the get up to the top flight, then from a managerial standpoint it is far from acceptable and he should hang his head in shame for not being able to win the league, which we really should be destroying.That doesn't make any sense to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 That doesn't make any sense to me.That doesn't surprise me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Listen to it again or get a grown up to explain it to you. He didnt fkn say it.He said: "It [winning the play-offs] wouldn't be out of the question because the most important thing is getting out of the division.That says to me he thinks it's acceptable.I'm sorry but it's not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 No it isn't.You can argue semantics all you fucking want.Did he say the word acceptable? No.But his verbiage effectively said it was acceptable and that is unacceptable.His comments don't need to be read behind, he said the most important thing was getting oh of the division. If you want to look behind comments then you would look behind the use of the word acceptable and how loaded that is.And for what it's worth, it really isn't semantics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 That doesn't surprise me.No, but then I actually can be arsed to go and watch my team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooblue 1,986 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 He is a total liability. Seems to think he is a great communicator just because he has a bunch of journos and media pals who lap up his every word. Nearly every interview he gives contains ridiculous statements. Please can we have a manager with some sense of dignity? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 His comments don't need to be read behind, he said the most important thing was getting oh of the division.If you want to look behind comments then you would look behind the use of the word acceptable and how loaded that is.And for what it's worth, it really isn't semantics.Yes, it really is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 He said: "It [winning the play-offs] wouldn't be out of the question because the most important thing is getting out of the division.That says to me he thinks it's acceptable.I'm sorry but it's not.Do you not have enough actual things to complain about that he has actually said, done, or not done? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Yes, it really is.If you were to look up lexical semantics you may find it is you that are indulging in it more than me.There is a thread with a number of people criticising the guy for something that he didn't actually say. I am comfortable that it is reasonable to point this out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,097 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 No, but then I actually can be arsed to go and watch my team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMotor 2,208 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Do you not have enough actual things to complain about that he has actually said, done, or not done?Are you saying that if the playoffs were the route by which we could get back into the top division, Ally would not accept that route? Because anything other than that scenario, by definition, would be acceptable to him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Are you saying that if the playoffs were the route by which we could get back into the top division, Ally would not accept that route? Because anything other than that scenario, by definition, would be acceptable to him.No, I am not saying that... I am saying the things that I have said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,097 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 one thing certain people seem to be missing is that we are only 7 games into the season and the clown is already talking about the playoffseven if he is asked the question, he should simply reply "we are targeting the title, we are only 6 points behind hearts with 3 games against them to play, plenty of points left to win and i aim to win each and every single game, we have played poorly so far but i aim to fix that starting against Livingston tomorrow"a statement like that gives the air of confidence, installs confidence in your team and would likely give the fans a boost, he would still be a shocking manager but at least its an honest statement and gives the impression that he has some form of a fucking clue about our situationinstead he's slabbering on about the fucking playoffs, when going by our form we'd struggle in them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 34,770 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Of course it's acceptable, we need to progress, this is the only thing that is important. So it's acceptable in the sense that we would accept it, no one is going to say we don't deserve to be there if we get in through the playoffs.However, if Ally can't win the league, and we have to rely on a playoff the get up to the top flight, then from a managerial standpoint it is far from acceptable and he should hang his head in shame for not being able to win the league, which we really should be destroying.EDIT: he should not be the manager if he fails to WIN this league.Relying on the play - offs , given it's cut throat nature against a top league side , may be a lot harder than winning this league when we should have a big advantage , over every other team , given our resources. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 His only answer to such questions should be that we're aiming for 1st and nothing else, even entertaining needing the play-offs is a disgrace Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnymate1690 669 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 he is a fucking idiot and the sooner he is away from my club the better Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Do you not have enough actual things to complain about that he has actually said, done, or not done?So you admit he thinks second is acceptable as long as we still go up now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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