Dan Deacon 55,735 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 if fit. I think he'll have a great season. if we even got 10 goals and 10 assists this year from him then I think we'd all be happy he stayed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Not if he plays 40 games Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EatDolphins 5,358 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 He's really just being an obstacle for one of our younger strikers. Much rather he wasn't here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewhitesettler 2,712 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 if fit. I think he'll have a great season. if we even got 10 goals and 10 assists this year from him then I think we'd all be happy he stayed.Not if he's blocking the way of a younger striker who could get 11 goals and 11 assists from him this year, maybe even more... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 God help us all if Kenny is blocking the way of an unknown younger striker who may have hypothetical goals not scored and assists not happening because of hypothetical minutes not played. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Can't see him starting many games tbh, might be way off, I see him as an experienced option off the bench under Warburton. Energy and work rate are big components of a MW team, Kenny tries still but he doesn't have the legs for that type of game as a lone striker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Deacon 55,735 Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 even from the bench I can see him having an impact. if we play like I think we will he'll still play an important role this year Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Always been a fan of Miller but his time is up as most of his game is based on speed and energy. When time catches up with your legs you need to rely more on your first touch and unfortunately, like Clarke ,Kennys first touch is far from the best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imodium 412 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 He was one of our better players in the last 3-4 montgs of the season abd happy to have him on board again. He will mentor our young guys and a good pro to have at the club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 He's fucking murder and shows a lack of awareness for an old head, still hasn't learned when to make runs and when not to, Try's to do everything then forgets to do his own job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchy 1,200 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 He seemed to spend an awful lot of time getting annoyed at his fellow team mates, and talking about them as well, but when he got his chances, he missed more than he scored. He is a trier, but we need someone that can be more clinical in taking their opportunities, I'm not sure he can do that so well these days. Miller's strength was always his speed, that side of his game has gone to a great extent these days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,723 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I think you are going to have to rely on the likes of him because I am in doubt that there will be many signings forthcoming, ko is only a couple of weeks away and that's not enough time for any team to gel so maybe they are going to rely on his 'experience' to hold others together. Then it's make it up as we go along filling positions as needed. That looks like the reality of it. It's all about cash, or lack of ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy cox 664 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I agree that Miller doesn't have the legs he used to but then as every player gets older they don't have the legs they used to.What worries me is people talking about "a lone striker role" surely we should be talking about a two man strike force at least never mind "lone striker" shit. Hardly attacking football playing with a lone striker don't know where this has come from but im hoping we set out with at least two up front backed up by someone on both wings preferably and a goal scoring midfielder.Thats what id like to see and think most Rangers fans who have watched the shit dished out over the past few years would like to see the same.Who makes up this attacking set up I don't know but im sure MW must have an idea what he wants.Whether that includes Miller we will have to wait and see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I think you are going to have to rely on the likes of him because I am in doubt that there will be many signings forthcoming, ko is only a couple of weeks away and that's not enough time for any team to gel so maybe they are going to rely on his 'experience' to hold others together. Then it's make it up as we go along filling positions as needed. That looks like the reality of it. It's all about cash, or lack of !Or...it gives the likes of Hardie, Gallagher, Stoney etc the opportunities to affect the first team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,723 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Or...it gives the likes of Hardie, Gallagher, Stoney etc the opportunities to affect the first team.They'll need to affect it quick then, hopefully they'll make an impression but in reality more signings needed ! We've had a few false dawns with youngsters the last three seasons, that and managerial mishaps, but please that not a lead to after you know who, not on the 12th! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 They'll need to affect it quick then, hopefully they'll make an impression but in reality more signings needed ! We've had a few false dawns with youngsters the last three seasons, that and managerial mishaps, but please that not a lead to after you know who, not on the 12th!People have been calling for youth to be given responsibilities for the last 3 years, well this season they will most certainly get the opportunities.I do think MW will bring in a CF, likely on loan from down south IMO, but we've all wanted pathways left open for the youth to progress. We can't complain now when that is our philosophy and priority. Let's see how they go before we right them off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,942 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 If he gives us 10 goals and 10 assists then it will be another failure in the championship for him. Hardie should be considered before him or clark, however we need a striker to be first choice ahead of all of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,723 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 People have been calling for youth to be given responsibilities for the last 3 years, well this season they will most certainly get the opportunities.I do think MW will bring in a CF, likely on loan from down south IMO, but we've all wanted pathways left open for the youth to progress. We can't complain now when that is our philosophy and priority. Let's see how they go before we right them off.We can't afford to gamble on youth to take us anywhere this season, the youth culture should have been introduced three years ago when it could have been nurtured comfortably over the period. I'm all for it but we need to go up and should but this will be another struggle you can see it coming ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 We can't afford to gamble on youth to take us anywhere this season, the youth culture should have been introduced three years ago when it could have been nurtured comfortably over the period. I'm all for it but we need to go up and should but this will be another struggle you can see it coming !That's a whole different argument. In Div 3 and League 1 we had hardened SPL pros getting kicked to fuck by painters and decorators. Imagine what they'd have done to a team of teenagers...but that is gone. No point dwelling on it IMO.Whether we like it or not youth will be the basis of our squad this season and the foreseeable future, time people got used to that fact. As is the way with youth they will be inconsistent in general, we have to accept that and trust MW knows how to manage that, because as you say not going up is not an option. Youth also brings an unknown element, that leads to excitement for the fans. Hence why so many of our youths have been spoken so highly of by fans for the last 3 years.Personally looking forward to relying on our young, hungry players as the mercenary route was an abject failure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,723 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 That's a whole different argument. In Div 3 and League 1 we had hardened SPL pros getting kicked to fuck by painters and decorators. Imagine what they'd have done to a team of teenagers...but that is gone. No point dwelling on it IMO.Whether we like it or not youth will be the basis of our squad this season and the foreseeable future, time people got used to that fact. As is the way with youth they will be inconsistent in general, we have to accept that and trust MW knows how to manage that, because as you say not going up is not an option. Youth also brings an unknown element, that leads to excitement for the fans. Hence why so many of our youths have been spoken so highly of by fans for the last 3 years.Personally looking forward to relying on our young, hungry players as the mercenary route was an abject failure.People wil get used to fuck awe if we are gettin beat or drawin every other week, people better get used to the fact that signings will be demanded and heads will roll if this turns out tits up ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 People wil get used to fuck awe if we are gettin beat or drawin every other week, people better get used to the fact that signings will be demanded and heads will roll if this turns out tits up !MW career at Rangers will live or die by his decisions. That's a fact.I'm willing to give him the time to apply his philosophies on the squad and won't be chanting Warburton Oot on here after our first draw or loss. Hopefully most Rangers fans feel the same.Appointing Warburton is a long term strategy rather than another quick fix.I'm optimistic for the season, some peoples constant panic before our first game is tedious as fuck to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 That's a whole different argument. In Div 3 and League 1 we had hardened SPL pros getting kicked to fuck by painters and decorators. Imagine what they'd have done to a team of teenagers...but that is gone. No point dwelling on it IMO.Whether we like it or not youth will be the basis of our squad this season and the foreseeable future, time people got used to that fact.As is the way with youth they will be inconsistent in general, we have to accept that and trust MW knows how to manage that, because as you say not going up is not an option. Youth also brings an unknown element, that leads to excitement for the fans. Hence why so many of our youths have been spoken so highly of by fans for the last 3 years.Personally looking forward to relying on our young, hungry players as the mercenary route was an abject failure.A mercenary route led by a man you backed to the hilt, even when the failure was obvious.You seem to have learned nothing from that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
West_Side 1,571 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I agree that Miller doesn't have the legs he used to but then as every player gets older they don't have the legs they used to.What worries me is people talking about "a lone striker role" surely we should be talking about a two man strike force at least never mind "lone striker" shit. Hardly attacking football playing with a lone striker don't know where this has come from but im hoping we set out with at least two up front backed up by someone on both wings preferably and a goal scoring midfielder.Thats what id like to see and think most Rangers fans who have watched the shit dished out over the past few years would like to see the same.Who makes up this attacking set up I don't know but im sure MW must have an idea what he wants.Whether that includes Miller we will have to wait and see.If you've been paying attention to football in the past ten years you'll be able to see lots of attacking lone striker formations. One main striker leading the line with 3 attacking midfielders/wingers playing off him is an attacking formation. It's really more of a 4-3-3 formation anyway, with the two wide players doubling up as forwards when in possession. From what I can tell of Warburton at Brentford this is his preferred formation.I don't think Kenny Miller has much left to offer though. Maybe as an option off the bench, but I can't see him being a big part of the first team this season. I think it could be a very big year for Ryan Hardie and Calum Gallagher. Would be surprised if we didn't sign a striker though. Will trust MW to do what he thinks is best for the team regardless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,723 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 MW career at Rangers will live or die by his decisions. That's a fact.I'm willing to give him the time to apply his philosophies on the squad and won't be chanting Warburton Oot on here after our first draw or loss. Hopefully most Rangers fans feel the same.Appointing Warburton is a long term strategy rather than another quick fix.I'm optimistic for the season, some peoples constant panic before our first game is tedious as fuck to me.The manager will get his chance and with DW at his side hopefully will pull it off, lack of established signings might be a problem though!Am the same, people that confuse panic with reality do tend to get as tedious as fuck ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 The manager will get his chance and with DW at his side hopefully will pull it off, lack of established signings might be a problem though!Am the same, people that confuse panic with reality do tend to get as tedious as fuck !We've signed the championship winners last years captain, an English Championship CB and GK. Two youths, one being a youth international. We have had another half a dozen or so on trial and will likely add at least two of them to the squad in the next week or so. How much more established are you wanting? How many more are you wanting? We will be using our youth more, whether that is successful or not only time will tell, but it's happening so constant threads about signing more and more and more players is pointless.I'm just a glass half full guy in general. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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