ger4life_1872 29,820 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 To me, Holt wasn't on the ball and since his back was to the goal, it wasn't a clear goalscoring opportunity. It's a very soft penalty to me at best. It was more of a 50-50 ball With both players extending their bodies to get on the ball. Could the center have given it? Yes but I would imagine that most would not. The handball was a good non call because arm was in a natural position and not extended. Was it an advantage? Yes but not intentionalholt wasnt on the ball because he played it wide then hibs player came thru him , im not expecting a red card so goalscoring oppertunity doesnt matter , its a penalty all day long , i agree on the handball although could argue the point on the challenge in the build up Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Ranger 1,554 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 But the qualification for a penalty is an infringement inside the box - whether its a goal scoring opportunity is immaterialHence the 50/50 comment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 I beg you to say that to my face and a I promise you will end up with no face.Call people wankers what do you expect. Perhaps time to go back from whence you came. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Artagnan 13,319 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Hence the 50/50 comment.Well you know the qualifications are based around the 10 offences which result in a direct free kick. Id be expecting a direct free kick for us or against us had such a challenge been committed outside the box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 The first was a penalty. The handball wasn't.Have to expect decisions to go against you at times, though.Think spending too much time on the ref in this game misses the point.Yep - This! Refs are bad - but we sound like tarries moaning about decisions - finishing and for me, lack of penetration when we had a lot of possession was the issues to be addressed! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Artagnan 13,319 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Yep - This! Refs are bad - but we sound like tarries moaning about decisions - finishing and for me, lack of penetration when we had a lot of possession was the issues to be addressed!One of those scary moments when we find ourselves in complete agreement Nurse !!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,820 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Yep - This! Refs are bad - but we sound like tarries moaning about decisions - finishing and for me, lack of penetration when we had a lot of possession was the issues to be addressed!if you go through the thread you will find most ppl agree the ref wasnt too blame but does that mean we cant discuss it ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piperpete 3,186 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Take our chances and the refs cant influence the outcome, yes we should have had a penalty in the first few minutes but we should have have at keast 2 goald from the chances we missed.First off I'm not making any excuses on behalf of the performance of the team, the defending was atrocious and the goal we scored was jammy. (Cheers Darren) We where also unlucky with hitting the woodwork on a three occasions, but the finishing should have been better.HOWEVER at the start of the game about 4 mins in, we had a STONEWALL penalty ignored because the prick of a ref didn't want to make such a big call so early. then in the second half it was CLEARLY a handball in the box and again no penalty. It beggars belief how we didn't get at least one of those, what do we pay these officials for it seems they are the cunts who need to go to specsavers instead of promoting it.We probably didn't deserve to win but with that being said we didn't deserve to loose either, in fairness it should have been a draw if one of the two clear cut PKs where awarded and scored.Thoughts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 One of those scary moments when we find ourselves in complete agreement Nurse !!!!Swoons! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 if you go through the thread you will find most ppl agree the ref wasnt too blame but does that mean we cant discuss it ?Discuss away but dinnae moan about it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,820 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Discuss away but dinnae moan about it!who is moaning though ?or did you post without reading Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 HOWEVER at the start of the game about 4 mins in, we had a STONEWALL penalty ignored because the prick of a ref didn't want to make such a big call so early. then in the second half it was CLEARLY a handball in the box and again no penalty. It beggars belief how we didn't get at least one of those, what do we pay these officials for it seems they are the cunts who need to go to specsavers instead of promoting it.Shitebags the lot of them, scared of making a decision in case they get hounded with abuse off the taigs.Ref shit his pants, not good enough.who is moaning though ?or did you post without reading3 from the first page alone - sounds a bit moany to me - perhaps I'm just a sensitive lad! but at least I can read! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,820 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 3 from the first page alone - sounds a bit moany to me - perhaps I'm just a sensitive lad! but at least I can read!ha ha ha fair point , maybe im needing my eyes checked Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 ha ha ha fair point , maybe im needing my eyes checkedLike the ref!BOOM BOOM! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,820 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Like the ref!BOOM BOOM! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 31,287 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Ref wasn't to blame for us losing but the two footed tackle at the end was horrendous. Straight red for me. Not that it would have made a difference at the 90th min. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Ranger 1,554 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Well you know the qualifications are based around the 10 offences which result in a direct free kick. Id be expecting a direct free kick for us or against us had such a challenge been committed outside the box.Possibly but I still wouldn't have given it and would have told them to get up. Refereeing at a U13-14 tourney this afternoon and see a damn old guy wearing an ugly new green Septic jersey at the fields. Haven't asked him if he was a priest or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingtom80 166 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 good by timmy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,820 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Possibly but I still wouldn't have given it and would have told them to get up. Refereeing at a U13-14 tourney this afternoon and see a damn old guy wearing an ugly new green Septic jersey at the fields. Haven't asked him if he was a priest or not.told who too get up ? Our player got straight back up because we had possesion ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Like the ref!BOOM BOOM!Needing to brush up on your jokes Basil Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueboyG 5,319 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Stone wall penalty on holt and I think the ref was thinking about giving it but Holt got straight up to get the ball, IMO if he stayed down and protested we would have got the penalty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don54 25,576 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Hence the 50/50 comment.50/50 has nothing to do with It,you said it wasn't a goal scoring opportunity,nothing In the rule book says It has to be.A kick awarded to a team because an opponent was charged with a direct free kick offense within his/her own penalty area. This definition is reinforced in Rule 14-1-1 that indicates: A penalty kick shall be awarded when a foul which ordinarily results in the awarding of a direct free kick, occurs within the offending team’s penalty area..And On the off chance you don't know what the 10 offences for a direct free-kick,they are FIFA Laws of the Game 2015-16Direct free kickA direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following seven offences in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:kicks or attempts to kick an opponenttrips or attempts to trip an opponentjumps at an opponentcharges an opponentstrikes or attempts to strike an opponentpushes an opponenttackles an opponentA direct free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following three offences:holds an opponentspits at an opponenthandles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,512 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Stone wall penalty on holt and I think the ref was thinking about giving it but Holt got straight up to get the ball, IMO if he stayed down and protested we would have got the penalty.this, he was either too honest for his own good or was just not quick thinking enough to make a meal of it which players all over the world would have done Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Ranger 1,554 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 50/50 has nothing to do with It,you said it wasn't a goal scoring opportunity,nothing In the rule book says It has to be.A kick awarded to a team because an opponent was charged with a direct free kick offense within his/her own penalty area. This definition is reinforced in Rule 14-1-1 that indicates: A penalty kick shall be awarded when a foul which ordinarily results in the awarding of a direct free kick, occurs within the offending team’s penalty area..And On the off chance you don't know what the 10 offences for a direct free-kick,they are FIFA Laws of the Game 2015-16Direct free kickA direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following seven offences in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:kicks or attempts to kick an opponenttrips or attempts to trip an opponentjumps at an opponentcharges an opponentstrikes or attempts to strike an opponentpushes an opponenttackles an opponentA direct free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following three offences:holds an opponentspits at an opponenthandles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)There was no excessive force...it was a fair challenge on a 50/50 ball and both players lunging for a ball neither was in possession. Ref got it right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,820 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 There was no excessive force...it was a fair challenge on a 50/50 ball and both players lunging for a ball neither was in possession. Ref got it right. you have said this a few times now , holt plays the ball wide too waghorn then the man comes through him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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