thebooler 4,509 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, eskbankloyal said: That’s a noble aim but they cannot guarantee being able to purchase shares with the money whilst we remain unlisted. It’s difficult currently trying to find a buyer for £100k of shares as the base is illiquid. Trying to find somebody to sell £60 of shares will be impossible. One of the group's main aims is to get us listed mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop 654 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, thebooler said: One of the group's main aims is to get us listed mate. and how do they propose to do that and when? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskbankloyal 19,446 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, thebooler said: One of the group's main aims is to get us listed mate. Fair enough thebooler 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim beam 2,188 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Am I reading this and understanding it correctly,you pay £30 initially to join and you need someone to propose or second you and if you don’t have someone to basically vouch for you it then goes to some sort of panel that will then decide whether they will accept your £30 later rising to £90 for you to join this fans group? whatawaster95 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 47 minutes ago, Coop said: and how do they propose to do that and when? By putting pressure on the Board I'd assume. Is there another way? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 32 minutes ago, jim beam said: Am I reading this and understanding it correctly,you pay £30 initially to join and you need someone to propose or second you and if you don’t have someone to basically vouch for you it then goes to some sort of panel that will then decide whether they will accept your £30 later rising to £90 for you to join this fans group? It's £30 to enrol. The vouching system is to stop bheast infiltration, or people who join this kind of group to see what they can gain from it. After that you can pay as little as a fiver a month. It depends how many shares YOU want to purchase. I'm sure you'll be welcomed to the group. ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewtonMearns1690 6 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Hi Guys, can someone PM me with where to send the application form back to, cant see it on the website, cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius72 411 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, NewtonMearns1690 said: Hi Guys, can someone PM me with where to send the application form back to, cant see it on the website, cheers memberships@followrangers.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LochendBilly 8,472 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Is it simply a case of sending the form and then paying the 30 via paypal or whatever way I chose? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: Now dingwall has had his say folk should be even more reassured by the credibility and genuineness of the organisation and its intent. Hahaha!!! That from someone who banned all talk of an alternative supporters group (RF) until a merger with the RST was announced - then RF was the best thing since sliced loaf Irony is lost on that cunt. SeparateEntityMyArse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Virtuoso said: Hahaha!!! That from someone who banned all talk of an alternative supporters group (RF) until a merger with the RST was announced - then RF was the best thing since sliced loaf Irony is lost on that cunt. Has the news of the new group broken over on ££ yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewtonMearns1690 6 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, Darius72 said: memberships@followrangers.com Thanks Darius, much appreciated Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LochendBilly 8,472 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Read a thread on it today over there mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10pshortof17pound 2,653 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 hour ago, jim beam said: Am I reading this and understanding it correctly,you pay £30 initially to join and you need someone to propose or second you and if you don’t have someone to basically vouch for you it then goes to some sort of panel that will then decide whether they will accept your £30 later rising to £90 for you to join this fans group? You're not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, 10pshortof17pound said: You're not. You sure? That's how the application form reads Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, LochendBilly said: Read a thread on it today over there mate. Link? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, thebooler said: Link? https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/follow-Rangers-ltd.26298/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gj923 1,471 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 43 minutes ago, thebooler said: By putting pressure on the Board I'd assume. Is there another way? They rightly highlighted the pressure hedge funds with small percentage shareholdings had bring to the board without the need for being on one thebooler 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LochendBilly 8,472 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, thebooler said: Link? I see you got it, that board stinks of paranoia thebooler 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim beam 2,188 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 47 minutes ago, 10pshortof17pound said: You're not. Ok just picking up wrongly it seems from bits and pieces others have said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim beam 2,188 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 hour ago, thebooler said: It's £30 to enrol. The vouching system is to stop bheast infiltration, or people who join this kind of group to see what they can gain from it. After that you can pay as little as a fiver a month. It depends how many shares YOU want to purchase. I'm sure you'll be welcomed to the group. ?? Ok cheers thanks for the reply. thebooler 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkane1981 25 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 4 hours ago, thebooler said: Meaning they're always yours and always will be. Regards your earlier question, it's in the Constitution that Follow Rangers will NEVER merge with anyone without 100% member backing. So it's never going to happen. As the new shares are in the company name not yours, you are actually at the mercy of the company to transfer them into your name in the event of leaving, what happens if the company decides to refuse? So it can happen, a vote to change the constitution then a vote to merge with c1872, Whether that is likely or not is another matter, the fact it is possible is something to remember, a while back people were claiming it couldn't happen to c1872 and Rangers first but it did happen in the end, people need to be aware that despite promises here it is possible in the future they may merge with c1872 Also if it does in fact happen as it is theoretically possible does that then make you a liar as you have said it is never going to happen? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mkane1981 said: As the new shares are in the company name not yours, you are actually at the mercy of the company to transfer them into your name in the event of leaving, what happens if the company decides to refuse? So it can happen, a vote to change the constitution then a vote to merge with c1872, Whether that is likely or not is another matter, the fact it is possible is something to remember, a while back people were claiming it couldn't happen to c1872 and Rangers first but it did happen in the end, people need to be aware that despite promises here it is possible in the future they may merge with c1872 Also if it does in fact happen as it is theoretically possible does that then make you a liar as you have said it is never going to happen? The fact it's written down in black and white about what happens in the event of you leaving doesn't leave much room for them to screw you over regarding your shares. They're FCA regulated and they'd be fucked the first time they tried it. With regards to the merger with RF and the RST - yes we were told it could never happen due to how each entity was set up, but that was circumvented by using some loophole and legalise where the Marshalls (our esteemed SLO especially) claimed that it wasn't technically a merger (fucking lying cunts the pair of them, but I digress...). Additionally, I can't ever recall RF having anything in writing regarding a future merger never taking place - it was only ever repeated word of mouth (I'll stand corrected on this btw). The difference here is, it simply won't happen due to a number of factors, the first one being laid out clearly: Quote Follow Rangers is acutely aware of previous mistakes, particularly the RST/RF merger after promises were given that no merger would take place. To that end, the FR Constitution includes a binding assurance that there will be no merger with any other fan group without the agreement of 100% of members. So unless 100% of the membership vote for it - it's never going to happen. Compare and contrast with RF where they used something like a 94% yes vote for merging - but with only 40 odd % of the membership actually voting. There's various other factors to consider as to why it will never happen, but they're for another day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Mkane1981 said: As the new shares are in the company name not yours, you are actually at the mercy of the company to transfer them into your name in the event of leaving, what happens if the company decides to refuse? So it can happen, a vote to change the constitution then a vote to merge with c1872, Whether that is likely or not is another matter, the fact it is possible is something to remember, a while back people were claiming it couldn't happen to c1872 and Rangers first but it did happen in the end, people need to be aware that despite promises here it is possible in the future they may merge with c1872 Also if it does in fact happen as it is theoretically possible does that then make you a liar as you have said it is never going to happen? It can't happen as long as I'm a member. It needs 100% support of the members. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkane1981 25 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Virtuoso said: So unless 100% of the membership vote for it - it's never going to happen. Compare and contrast with RF where they used something like a 94% yes vote for merging - but with only 40 odd % of the membership actually voting. There's various other factors to consider as to why it will never happen, but they're for another day. But that bit that as you say is written down in black and white also has a loop hole The constitution can be changed with a 2/3 majority vote, so that 100% vote requirement can be easily changed if 2/3 of members vote for it. Look I am not against this I am just against things like this being poorly set up that allows such loop holes to exist, i am not anti follow Rangers or even anti c1872 I am however anti false claims, so even this organisation has loopholes that could allow it to merge with c1872 at some point down the line and it doesn't require 100% members to agree Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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