BlueSuedeSambas 56,400 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 you dont have to spend the cash if you PRODUCE the players ! is that not what the whole Murray Park saga was for ? If you buy Cousin for £1m, he does well and have the prospect of selling him for £4m ? Good business. If you buy Cuellar for £2m, he is playing great, decides to go to England after 1st season and you get £10m for him, great business. You bring young Scottish talent through that has cost you effectively nothing but wages since they started and sell them to the 1st Premiership team who show interest cause they have daft money to spend ? Poor ambition and the directors are cash hungry. The whole idea of Murray Park was produce young players so they wouldnt need to scour the transfer market and spend crazy money anymore. Now a player comes through and they are sold within half a season of them playing at their peak. Tell me that is good business ? I dont see it as good business. I see it as going backwards and accepting the dregs of the Premiership to replace these guys. Its not like selling Boumsong and signing guys who were intsrumental in winning the league for us i.e. Ferguson, Kyrgiakos, Buffel, Andrews, Wattereus etc. That was good business ! Compare to Hutton deal, poor business. I'm not condeming Hutton for it, but the deal would have been good business for us had he not dug his heels in. Walter would have had weeks as opposed to days to spend the money and then yes we could have seen signings who could have proven to be instrumental in us winning the league this season. However I would be happy enough if players from Murray Park came through and were sold on for millions as it gives the manager a bigger windfall to reinvest in the side, as well as helping the club to a secure a safe financial position. Ultimately no player is bigger than this club and in the current market, any 9 million offer comes in for any of our players is probably going to be accepted. This strategy might not be popular, but if it's ok for teams like Ajax, Lyon and to a certain extent Arsenal then it's good enough for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 you dont have to spend the cash if you PRODUCE the players ! is that not what the whole Murray Park saga was for ? If you buy Cousin for £1m, he does well and have the prospect of selling him for £4m ? Good business. If you buy Cuellar for £2m, he is playing great, decides to go to England after 1st season and you get £10m for him, great business. You bring young Scottish talent through that has cost you effectively nothing but wages since they started and sell them to the 1st Premiership team who show interest cause they have daft money to spend ? Poor ambition and the directors are cash hungry. The whole idea of Murray Park was produce young players so they wouldnt need to scour the transfer market and spend crazy money anymore. Now a player comes through and they are sold within half a season of them playing at their peak. Tell me that is good business ? I dont see it as good business. I see it as going backwards and accepting the dregs of the Premiership to replace these guys. Its not like selling Boumsong and signing guys who were intsrumental in winning the league for us i.e. Ferguson, Kyrgiakos, Buffel, Andrews, Wattereus etc. That was good business ! Compare to Hutton deal, poor business. I'm not condeming Hutton for it, but the deal would have been good business for us had he not dug his heels in. Walter would have had weeks as opposed to days to spend the money and then yes we could have seen signings who could have proven to be instrumental in us winning the league this season. However I would be happy enough if players from Murray Park came through and were sold on for millions as it gives the manager a bigger windfall to reinvest in the side, as well as helping the club to a secure a safe financial position. Ultimately no player is bigger than this club and in the current market, any 9 million offer comes in for any of our players is probably going to be accepted. This strategy might not be popular, but if it's ok for teams like Ajax, Lyon and to a certain extent Arsenal then it's good enough for us Hutton had to go at that price - it was GREAT business. WS though said he had money regardless but had been rebuffed three times in trying to get the players he wanted. So I do not think it was totally the timing of Hutton's decision, but that and the DC mess did not help. Generally though DBBTB has it right. What is good for Ajax etc. is certainly good for us. The buys we did make look decent for what they are and in Davis we will really be better if he recaptures his old form at AV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigy 0 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Those pictures do nothing to convince me that he is actually happy to be there. His eyes look distant and the smile looks very forced. It gets worse IMO http://media.putfile.com/Allan-Hutton-Interview-Jan-31-2008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coopermania 1 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Those pictures do nothing to convince me that he is actually happy to be there. His eyes look distant and the smile looks very forced. It gets worse IMO http://media.putfile.com/Allan-Hutton-Interview-Jan-31-2008 good link Craigy, thank you man Personally, I wish Hutton all the best. Its done now and I have no doubt he will do well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkiebear 1,013 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 He looks so pissed off it that interview lol. That was hard to take in, so sad watching it, i feel depressed again. :so_sad: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
excoriate 0 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Well, at least at the end of the interview he admited what we all knew "step down". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainsto 0 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 both Tottenham January new signing Woodgate and Gilberto showed their new shirt on Tottenham official website.Big picture,and nice looking. but Hutton not.There was only a picture of him played in Scottish shirt. thought this was his intention and the last thing he did for gers. If he did show the new shirt on a big picture,like Woodgate and Gilberto did,everyone here could be more sick. that is something called loyalty which everyone should see. There is only one Alan Hutton,he is special. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 both Tottenham January new signing Woodgate and Gilberto showed their new shirt on Tottenham official website.Big picture,and nice looking. but Hutton not.There was only a picture of him played in Scottish shirt. thought this was his intention and the last thing he did for gers. If he did show the new shirt on a big picture,like Woodgate and Gilberto did,everyone here could be more sick. that is something called loyalty which everyone should see. There is only one Alan Hutton,he is special. If I had paid a 9m fee for a player the least I would expect is a photo of him in MY teams shirt. It will come soon - no doubts about that at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainsto 0 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Hutton came to spurs on January 29 and Gilberto came on January 31 but Gilberto had already did that. and there had already an interview video of Hutton on their website,but still no photo. that proved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeAndMyWeePalJoe 17 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 What a strange thread... However welcome to RM Brainsto, I hope you enjoy the boards... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Yes - WELCOME to RM Brainsto I hope you enjoy the site. :beer2: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainsto 0 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 What a strange thread... However welcome to RM Brainsto, I hope you enjoy the boards... Yes - WELCOME to RM Brainsto I hope you enjoy the site. :beer2: thanks he, and the other new signings were paraded today in the strips. the pics are there saw that.a bit disapointed. but still no single picture.that's good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,844 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 I dont really take anything from it, i take more from his tone of voice and expressions during his interview though, looked as if he did not want to be there although i am sure he will give his all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainsto 0 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 ok everybody i must be fair that what my thought is very very different from u cause we are in different culture and different ways of thinking. i'm from asia and live in asia,and i support rangers.so i'm sure most of u think this thread is strange... that is just something i thought could prove his loyalty,but may not be ur thinking ways... that's ok.and there may also something wrong with my poor english afterall,I'm still happy to see that he did not show his tottenham's shirt on picture. that's my way of thinking...an asian brain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,844 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 yer, it is a bit weird, i get where your coming from, but look at the rangers sites, theres small inconsistances on our site all the time, i would probably put it down to something like that other than hutton not getting a picture taken, if u know what i mean? and welcome to the site, are there many rangers fans out in asia? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,844 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.a...&src=quick# Theres a pic of him in the shirt himself there. I do get what you're saying but. he did have the blue one though so maybe he was showing some loyalty there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 ok everybody i must be fair that what my thought is very very different from u cause we are in different culture and different ways of thinking. i'm from asia and live in asia,and i support rangers.so i'm sure most of u think this thread is strange... that is just something i thought could prove his loyalty,but may not be ur thinking ways... that's ok.and there may also something wrong with my poor english afterall,I'm still happy to see that he did not show his tottenham's shirt on picture. that's my way of thinking...an asian brain. I've already seen him in a Spurs change strip on the White Hart Lane pitch with Woodgate and others, who I presume to be new signings also. Welcome!!! Where in Asia are you and are you an exiled Scot? ...not that it matters. Rangers are the only criteria for membership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainsto 0 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 ok,i'm wrong everybody,kill me~~ <_< last 3 things i would like to say before i died: 1.there are not many gers fans in asia cause it's too difficult to watch an SPL game here.but I'm glad that there still have some 2.Getty Images,Wikipedia,Youtube,these are not allowed in some countries in Asia.So,may be there are some picture on Getty,but i couldn't see them sorry... 3.I support rangers... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 ok,i'm wrong everybody,kill me~~ <_< last 3 things i would like to say before i died: 1.there are not many gers fans in asia cause it's too difficult to watch an SPL game here.but I'm glad that there still have some 2.Getty Images,Wikipedia,Youtube,these are not allowed in some countries in Asia.So,may be there are some picture on Getty,but i couldn't see them sorry... 3.I support rangers... All Rangers fans are welcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainsto 0 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 aahhh no bother my friend Welcome to the site thank u and i'm not bother... actually i don't know what does this word mean exactly... i'm from the capital of china and i thought there may more rangers fans in hong kong than any other part of china. so,our topic is Hutton right... and now it's cleard: If he never showed his tottenham's shirt,that make me feel good if he did show it,i'm not bother cause i know he is a life long gers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 aahhh no bother my friend Welcome to the site thank u and i'm not bother... actually i don't know what does this word mean exactly... i'm from the capital of china and i thought there may more rangers fans in hong kong than any other part of china. so,our topic is Hutton right... and now it's cleard: If he never showed his tottenham's shirt,that make me feel good if he did show it,i'm not bother cause i know he is a life long gers. How did you come to support the Rangers, my friend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemeanie6 3 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 It is slightly unusual i have to agree, you usually see the player holding the shirt up rather than wearing it, sometimes stood next to the manager, as someone has already said, its probably just something the site haven't picked up on yet. Having said that, these things are usually official, and the picture on gettyimages isnt even on the clubs official site, or maybe he hasnt been in london since his signing due to his wife being pregnant? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 I think we have to wait longer than two days for a return. The window doesn't open till May/June! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainsto 0 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 How did you come to support the Rangers, my friend? that's little bit hard for me to explain in english... u know most of my friends around me support some teams like ManU or Real Madrid or AC Milan or something like that thought that was boring.it's easy for them to watch epl or la liga or serie a cause there are live matches on tv.but it's different for spl.i need to do something really special to try to watch this league and what i've done make me feel good. and when i watched rangers game it make me feel good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose_jr 6 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 You can watch games via streaming although its not strictly "kosher" If you pm someone during a game they will tell you a website to go to. Anyway seeing as you support you are more than welcome here The greatest club in the world with an ever growing membership Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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