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Was just looking at our co-efficient and european ranking and it is pretty good.

We are now seeded 26th in Europe with a co-efficient of 62.766. These rankings are used to decide who falls into each of the pots when making the champions league draw. At present we are likely to be in pot 3 but if we improve our co-efficent any further we may squeeze into the 2nd pot. Think we need a couple of teams seeded higher than us to not qualify for the champions league or get knocked out in the qualifiers but there is a real chance we could be in pot 2.

That would be a massive boost for next year as you would avoid the bigger teams in the champions league. Would make progression to the next 16 a lot easier.

Here is the link in case anyone else is interested: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/index.html

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I'll be honest with you

The Champions league is becoming predictable and boring////////i'll be cheering on Chelsea but it's always the usual suspects in the quarters and semis every year.

UEFA cup has variety...and alot of pish teams i suppose

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I'll be honest with you

The Champions league is becoming predictable and boring////////i'll be cheering on Chelsea but it's always the usual suspects in the quarters and semis every year.

UEFA cup has variety...and alot of pish teams i suppose

Well if you listen to the likes of Keevins on Clyde, he'd have you believe that we are up against the poorest teams left in the competition ever :rolleyes:

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The national teams performance doesn't matter. It is purely based on the co-efficent of each team.

Werder Bremen were in pot 2 last year and they had a co-efficent of 63.640. Is a better co-efficent than we have but if we progress in the UEFA cup and get lucky with a couple of teams with a better co-efficent not qualifying for the group stages then it is entirely possible we could be in pot 2.

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1 AC Milan Ita 119.852

2 Chelsea Eng 119.543

3 Liverpool Eng 117.543

4 FC Barcelona Esp 116.796

5 Arsenal Eng 110.543

6 Sevilla Esp 102.796

7 Manchester United Eng 102.543

8 Olympique Lyon Fra 99.380

9 Internazionale Ita 96.852

10 Real Madrid Esp 93.796

11 PSV Eindhoven Ned 91.610

12 Bayern Munchen Ger 91.030

13 Villarreal Esp 90.796

14 Newcastle United Eng 84.543

15 Valencia Esp 83.796

16 AS Roma Ita 81.852

17 FC Porto Por 81.176

18 Benfica Por 77.176

19 Werder Bremen Ger 74.030

20 AZ Alkmaar Ned 69.610

21 Sporting CP Lisbon Por 67.176

22 Schalke 04 Ger 67.030

23 Juventus Ita 66.852

24 Olympique Marseille Fra 63.380

25 Espanyol Esp 62.796

26 Glasgow Rangers Sco 62.766

I've emboldened the teams that will probably be in the tournament next year. We are 19th, which means three teams would need to go out for us to be in pot 2.

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Was just looking at our co-efficient and european ranking and it is pretty good.

We are now seeded 26th in Europe with a co-efficient of 62.766. These rankings are used to decide who falls into each of the pots when making the champions league draw. At present we are likely to be in pot 3 but if we improve our co-efficent any further we may squeeze into the 2nd pot. Think we need a couple of teams seeded higher than us to not qualify for the champions league or get knocked out in the qualifiers but there is a real chance we could be in pot 2.

That would be a massive boost for next year as you would avoid the bigger teams in the champions league. Would make progression to the next 16 a lot easier.

Here is the link in case anyone else is interested: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/index.html

What a season!! Our co-efficient has been fantastic over the last 3 years. Its quite a jump for us but its possible. Pot 3 at the mo but need a few teams above us not to get to the CL Group Stage to jump to pot 2.

Also, IF we win the league we could go straight to the Group Stages skipping the mine-field that are the qualifiers, IF the CL Winner this year qualifies for next seasons CL Group Stage directly from their Domestic League i.e. at current Man U, Chelsea or Barca.

Mon the Readies

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1 AC Milan Ita 119.852

2 Chelsea Eng 119.543

3 Liverpool Eng 117.543

4 FC Barcelona Esp 116.796

5 Arsenal Eng 110.543

6 Sevilla Esp 102.796

7 Manchester United Eng 102.543

8 Olympique Lyon Fra 99.380

9 Internazionale Ita 96.852

10 Real Madrid Esp 93.796

11 PSV Eindhoven Ned 91.610

12 Bayern Munchen Ger 91.030

13 Villarreal Esp 90.796

14 Newcastle United Eng 84.543

15 Valencia Esp 83.796

16 AS Roma Ita 81.852

17 FC Porto Por 81.176

18 Benfica Por 77.176

19 Werder Bremen Ger 74.030

20 AZ Alkmaar Ned 69.610

21 Sporting CP Lisbon Por 67.176

22 Schalke 04 Ger 67.030

23 Juventus Ita 66.852

24 Olympique Marseille Fra 63.380

25 Espanyol Esp 462.796

26 Glasgow Rangers Sco 62.766

I've emboldened the teams that will probably be in the tournament next year. We are 19th, which means three teams would need to go out for us to be in pot 2.

I'm just thinking, If we win the tournament, we might even jump Marseile and Juventus.. you never know !

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Newcastle United Eng 84.543

Can someone explain this?

It's over the last 5 seasons. Four and Five seasons ago they managed to rack up over 20 points each time, thus the big rank.

Plus the fact they have the English component which is obviously larger than Scotland's.

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1 AC Milan Ita 119.852

2 Chelsea Eng 119.543

3 Liverpool Eng 117.543

4 FC Barcelona Esp 116.796

5 Arsenal Eng 110.543

6 Sevilla Esp 102.796

7 Manchester United Eng 102.543

8 Olympique Lyon Fra 99.380

9 Internazionale Ita 96.852

10 Real Madrid Esp 93.796

11 PSV Eindhoven Ned 91.610

12 Bayern Munchen Ger 91.030

13 Villarreal Esp 90.796

14 Newcastle United Eng 84.543

15 Valencia Esp 83.796

16 AS Roma Ita 81.852

17 FC Porto Por 81.176

18 Benfica Por 77.176

19 Werder Bremen Ger 74.030

20 AZ Alkmaar Ned 69.610

21 Sporting CP Lisbon Por 67.176

22 Schalke 04 Ger 67.030

23 Juventus Ita 66.852

24 Olympique Marseille Fra 63.380

25 Espanyol Esp 462.796

26 Glasgow Rangers Sco 62.766

I've emboldened the teams that will probably be in the tournament next year. We are 19th, which means three teams would need to go out for us to be in pot 2.

I'm just thinking, If we win the tournament, we might even jump Marseile and Juventus.. you never know !

If we get to the final we'll definately leapfrog Marseille (and Espanyol). Even if we beat Fiorentina twice we wont reach Juventus. The funny thing is you don't get anything for winning the final.

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Don't follow that much Italian football to be honest, but are Juventus in the CL next year? I think there is a good possibility we can jump a couple of those teams, whether it will be enough to get us into pot 2 or not is another matter.

Juventus will most probably be in the qualifiers for the CL.

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Don't follow that much Italian football to be honest, but are Juventus in the CL next year? I think there is a good possibility we can jump a couple of those teams, whether it will be enough to get us into pot 2 or not is another matter.

Juventus will most probably be in the qualifiers for the CL.

Couldn't remember how many teams are allowed from Serie A, I know Juventus are currently 3rd in their league but Fiorentina are only two points behind them.

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Don't follow that much Italian football to be honest, but are Juventus in the CL next year? I think there is a good possibility we can jump a couple of those teams, whether it will be enough to get us into pot 2 or not is another matter.

Juventus will most probably be in the qualifiers for the CL.

Couldn't remember how many teams are allowed from Serie A, I know Juventus are currently 3rd in their league but Fiorentina are only two points behind them.

The top three countries get four. That's Spain, England and Italy. Of those the top two get automatic entry to the group stage.

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1 AC Milan Ita 119.852

2 Chelsea Eng 119.543

3 Liverpool Eng 117.543

4 FC Barcelona Esp 116.796

5 Arsenal Eng 110.543

6 Sevilla Esp 102.796

7 Manchester United Eng 102.543

8 Olympique Lyon Fra 99.380

9 Internazionale Ita 96.852

10 Real Madrid Esp 93.796

11 PSV Eindhoven Ned 91.610

12 Bayern Munchen Ger 91.030

13 Villarreal Esp 90.796

14 Newcastle United Eng 84.543

15 Valencia Esp 83.796

16 AS Roma Ita 81.852

17 FC Porto Por 81.176

18 Benfica Por 77.176

19 Werder Bremen Ger 74.030

20 AZ Alkmaar Ned 69.610

21 Sporting CP Lisbon Por 67.176

22 Schalke 04 Ger 67.030

23 Juventus Ita 66.852

24 Olympique Marseille Fra 63.380

25 Espanyol Esp 462.796

26 Glasgow Rangers Sco 62.766

I've emboldened the teams that will probably be in the tournament next year. We are 19th, which means three teams would need to go out for us to be in pot 2.

I'm just thinking, If we win the tournament, we might even jump Marseile and Juventus.. you never know !

If we get to the final we'll definately leapfrog Marseille (and Espanyol). Even if we beat Fiorentina twice we wont reach Juventus. The funny thing is you don't get anything for winning the final.

I think you get 2 points for a win plus extra points you get from the country's co-efficient overall, so when Rangers add to Scotland's co-efficient all the Scottish teams in Europe this year get a percentage of the increase!

It might be possible after all!

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1 AC Milan Ita - 5th

2 Chelsea Eng - 2nd

3 Liverpool Eng - 4th

4 FC Barcelona Esp - 2nd

5 Arsenal Eng - 3rd

6 Sevilla Esp - 6th

7 Manchester United Eng - 1st

8 Olympique Lyon Fra - 1st

9 Internazionale Ita - 1st

10 Real Madrid Esp - 1st

11 PSV Eindhoven Ned - 1st

12 Bayern München Ger - 1st

13 Villarreal Esp - 3rd

14 Newcastle United Eng - 12th

15 Valencia Esp - 14th

16 AS Roma Ita - 2nd

17 FC Porto Por - 1st

18 Benfica Por - 2nd

19 Werder Bremen Ger - 4th

20 AZ Alkmaar Ned - 12th

21 Sporting CP Lisbon Por - 4th

22 Schalke 04 Ger - 2nd

23 Juventus Ita - 3rd

24 Olympique Marseille Fra - 4th

25 Espanyol Esp - 7th

26 Glasgow Rangers Sco - 1st

if we went on current domestic postions the teams in bold would qualify for the group stage/qualifiers.

Pot 1

Chelsea

Liverpool

Barcelona

Arsenal

Man Utd

Lyon

Inter

Real Madrid

Pot 2

PSV

Bayern Munich

Villarreal

Roma

Porto

Benfica

Schalke

Juventus

Pot 3

RANGERS

obviously this could all change, but it just shows you that we may be able to sneak into pot 2 if a couple teams were to drop out in the qualifiers.

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Valencia will not make the champions league, they are 14th in la liga

Sevilla are 6th in la liga, will struggle to make Champions league

Bremen are in free fall and may not make the champions league

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Sporting lisbon and Ac milan could make it

Villarreal and Schalke will make it

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I'm just thinking, If we win the tournament, we might even jump Marseile and Juventus.. you never know !

If we get to the final we'll definately leapfrog Marseille (and Espanyol). Even if we beat Fiorentina twice we wont reach Juventus. The funny thing is you don't get anything for winning the final.

I think you get 2 points for a win plus extra points you get from the country's co-efficient overall, so when Rangers add to Scotland's co-efficient all the Scottish teams in Europe this year get a percentage of the increase!

It might be possible after all!

Actually I think I might have got that wrong. I was thinking of how the calculation works for countries, not teams. We have five points available to us and that would take us above Juve. Tall order though. As for the country contribution to the co-efficient, I think (hope) that's all ready included. If not Juve would obviously get more for being an Italian club than we would for being Scottish.

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