BoltonLoyal 2 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 Well i'm going to say it, Barry has been under par this season and at times has been downright poor. The 3-0 OF game apart and arguably the Bremen game are the only times he has performed to the levels we have come to expect from Mr Rangers (no sarcasm). He's obviously struggling to find any sort of form regardless of injury, which considering the way Barry plays lately ie coming deep and taking it off other midfielders rather than our defenders, is stifling our midfield. Barry has been and always will be a legend in my eyes and over the years has epitomised what playing for Rangers FC should be about, but he either needs to stand down and sort whatever injury he has, or somehow raise himself to his previous heights. We need a leader at this crucial time more than we've done for a long long while. :unionflag: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangeclement 619 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 This is ridiculous - we cannot have one bad night in 5 months without people getting personal? Give it a feckin rest. We are all Bears here so treat people with civility. We are not the mhanks so do not behave like them. Having said that - on thread - Barry was awful tonight and has been poor since the turn of the year. Not the only one - you can add L McCulloch, Whittaker and JCD too although the last two have had their odd spark of brillance at times. we have had more than one bad night , just that tonight we didnt have our usual good luck. 2. and weir has been poor for the last 5 or 6 games not up to his usual standard anyway. and also feel that barry hasnt been performing to his usual standards for a majority of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangeclement 619 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 Well i'm going to say it, Barry has been under par this season and at times has been downright poor. The 3-0 OF game apart and arguably the Bremen game are the only times he has performed to the levels we have come to expect from Mr Rangers (no sarcasm). He's obviously struggling to find any sort of form regardless of injury, which considering the way Barry plays lately ie coming deep and taking it off other midfielders rather than our defenders, is stifling our midfield. Barry has been and always will be a legend in my eyes and over the years has epitomised what playing for Rangers FC should be about, but he either needs to stand down and sort whatever injury he has, or somehow raise himself to his previous heights. We need a leader at this crucial time more than we've done for a long long while. :unionflag: give that man a medal we said good sir. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
novo number1 0 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 bazza is carrying an injury we have seen it for weeks now hes struggling everyone can see it but the amount of games we have coming up he cant get properly rested Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 What a crap post - Barry is so bad that Rangers are still on track for a quad. Thats real shite leadership for you. Being captain is about your overall contribution - play - leadership - ability to drive others around you. Barry is a LONG way from being our worst palyer and as for leadeership and drive - just look at where we are with him as captain. Get behind your captain, the team and the management and do YOUR bit to drive the league home to where it belongs - IBROX Park Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowcross 5 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 This is ridiculous - we cannot have one bad night in 5 months without people getting personal? Give it a feckin rest. We are all Bears here so treat people with civility. We are not the mhanks so do not behave like them. Having said that - on thread - Barry was awful tonight and has been poor since the turn of the year. Not the only one - you can add L McCulloch, Whittaker and JCD too although the last two have had their odd spark of brillance at times. Well said mate. We lost - it hurts - but we can take it - and use it to drive us further on - we will come back stronger - and win the treble if not more. Have faith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane 3 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 Come on bears he is rangers through and through look at the end of the game he would have fought the whole smeltic team. The man has not had his best season but I would rather have him in the team than out of it!!!! Up the Bazza!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangeclement 619 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 What a crap post - Barry is so bad that Rangers are still on track for a quad. Thats real shite leadership for you. Being captain is about your overall contribution - play - leadership - ability to drive others around you. Barry is a LONG way from being our worst palyer and as for leadeership and drive - just look at where we are with him as captain. Get behind your captain, the team and the management and do YOUR bit to drive the league home to where it belongs - IBROX Park its called opinion mate everyone has a different one, doesn't make him right or wrong or you for that matter. we all know how well barry CAN play and he is nowhere near these standards in the last few months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henders82 552 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 its funny how it takes a defeat for people to start mouthing off. Fergie is a born leader and am glad he is her where he belongs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,651 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 Ferguson has 12 domestic assists this season, the most he has ever got in the SPL and I don't think it's a coincidence that he has achieved this in the season that he has been asked to play a more advanced role and support the strikers whenever possible. We are used to seeing Ferguson sitting 20 yards deeper, where he has time and space to put his foot on the ball look up and make sure we create a chance or retain possession, and he himself is used to doing that so he often drops off anyway and in the process leaves a gaping hole where he should be and an isoltated striker. He's been playing a role which isn't best suited to his game while carrying an injury and yet he still has the most assists in our entire team. Ferguson hasn't had a bad season, it's just been different from the norm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbm26896 995 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 he is not having his best season he is our captain and is very important to our team lets get behind him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonaldC 0 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 This is not the time to drop one of our best players and our captain. The whole team need our support for the final push... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP52 0 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 He looked so slow last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
port_bear 86 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 He has been pish all season.It comes out in press he has an injury but admit it bears he is a shadow of the player he was.If his injury was that bad he'd be OUT.Captain or not S.Davis has taken his mantle & he dizny like it.If yer that bad Baz-get yourself sorted. He is a shadow of the player he once was for a reason, he is being asked to play out of position !! Ferguson is NOT an attacking midfielder, neither is he a box to box midfielder (never has been), Advocaat would never had asked Fergie to play so far forward, under him Fergie was told to sit infront of the back 4 and controll the game (his best position). Asking a 30 year old player to go box to box when this has NEVER suited his game (even when he was younger) is bound to have an effect on his form, granted the injury doesnt help either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,651 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 He is a shadow of the player he once was for a reason, he is being asked to play out of position !! Ferguson is NOT an attacking midfielder, neither is he a box to box midfielder (never has been), Advocaat would never had asked Fergie to play so far forward, under him Fergie was told to sit infront of the back 4 and controll the game (his best position). Asking a 30 year old player to go box to box when this has NEVER suited his game (even when he was younger) is bound to have an effect on his form, granted the injury doesnt help either. For once I agree with you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
port_bear 86 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 He is a shadow of the player he once was for a reason, he is being asked to play out of position !! Ferguson is NOT an attacking midfielder, neither is he a box to box midfielder (never has been), Advocaat would never had asked Fergie to play so far forward, under him Fergie was told to sit infront of the back 4 and controll the game (his best position). Asking a 30 year old player to go box to box when this has NEVER suited his game (even when he was younger) is bound to have an effect on his form, granted the injury doesnt help either. For once I agree with you Hahahaha there is a first for everything Dado !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wienblue 26 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 This is ridiculous - we cannot have one bad night in 5 months without people getting personal? Give it a feckin rest. We are all Bears here so treat people with civility. We are not the mhanks so do not behave like them. Having said that - on thread - Barry was awful tonight and has been poor since the turn of the year. Not the only one - you can add L McCulloch, Whittaker and JCD too although the last two have had their odd spark of brillance at times. Wiser heads on this topic and perhaps on the forum required, post last night's match. Well said nvager ! A sign of division is when we start taking pot shots at each other and deriding one another. We all should stand by the same flag, whether on the up, or a blip. There will be nobody more annoyed with the outcome of last evening than Barry Ferguson and yes, he can up his performance. Sometimes, so sweet can the sures of adversity be. I am saddened by the doom and gloom on here, amongst some. Cast your minds back to one week ago, the gloomsters were then on a high. In football, like business or leadership you cannot conceivably have everything your way. In the latter, I have been there ! The litmus test is how one reacts to the low and come back fighting - without emotion, but with strength, will, commitment, focus and drive. We will prevail, but, what we cannot have is foolish dissention in the ranks - that undermines, and just imagine if our players in the dressing room expressed similar views ? Let's move on, assess what we need to do (we will) and progress together. We have a very good management team and they like us are pleasantly surprised where we are in terms of development and progress this year. We will get better and so will Barry and others rise to the challenge, otherwise, they will always have doubts about their abilities / capabilities. They are professional and they will be back, however, we need to provide the 110% support and backing (even more) from now on. Together, we achieve more ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryso1873 0 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 fergie was an absolute joke last nite, been pretty poor all season infact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andypendek Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 history tells us that under smith, when we faced a double header against 'them', we very often fell flat first time around, only to use that defeat as a spur to gain revenge the next time around. i think especially of when they beat us in the league at ibrox,that fat slob nicholas even scored, and we used the sound of their celebrating to ensure that we won the cup game the next midweek. the advantage of having a dressing room full of scots/bears is that they will have heard the other dressing room last night. they will have hurt every bit as much as some of us did (i confess to being so confident of final victory, last night seems like a blip rather than the usual shot to the heart of an OF loss) and the management team know how to use that pain to best advantage. BF is no different, in fact he perhaps epitomises this culture - the fact that the game is so soon is another bonus. playing poorly last night may turn out to be the best motivation barry could ever get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,651 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 history tells us that under smith, when we faced a double header against 'them', we very often fell flat first time around, only to use that defeat as a spur to gain revenge the next time around. i think especially of when they beat us in the league at ibrox,that fat slob nicholas even scored, and we used the sound of their celebrating to ensure that we won the cup game the next midweek. the advantage of having a dressing room full of scots/bears is that they will have heard the other dressing room last night. they will have hurt every bit as much as some of us did (i confess to being so confident of final victory, last night seems like a blip rather than the usual shot to the heart of an OF loss) and the management team know how to use that pain to best advantage. BF is no different, in fact he perhaps epitomises this culture - the fact that the game is so soon is another bonus. playing poorly last night may turn out to be the best motivation barry could ever get. Good post mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumshie 205 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 he should have been shuttin down caldwell as he was crossing the ball 4 their 2nd goal instead of standing about with his arms out marking nae cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrT 173 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 I cannot believe there are some fans on here saying this about barry he is our captain and led the team and weard that armband with pride he is our driving force and we look to him to help us out even injured and he wants to drive rangers to every success this is the player we want we lose 1 game and now lets point fingers you guys are not real fans i was there last night and although we did not win we still sung out hearts out at the end this is our title come on we are rangers 1 defeat in 6 month lets have another 6 and the whole team leading the way WATP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneddon 6 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 i think its down to us having such a high expectation of barry this season has been poor compaired to what we are used to and expect of him hes apparently playing with an injury, the last few weeks hes been slightly off pace, i personally would much rather he puts the club 1st and lets them know when he needs a rest for a week or so than continue to put in below par performances i am a fan, but i think recently hes suffered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 to many have short memories barry carried us for years, and if other players had the same heart and love for the club that barry has, then we would be unbeatable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuBee85 0 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 imo, when ferguson doesn`t play theres a bareness about the team. Any team that plays rangers without fregie in the squad see that as a big advantage. His presence alone can make a big difference to the players around him and on the opposite team and i for one would alwasys have him in the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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