CF5LOYAL 0 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 These were 3 games where we totally trounced our opposition, looked great in attack, our overall football was superb. Now to the last few weeks, we have been dire. Scraping results and losing silly points. Now the only thing I can think of what is causing this is we are missing Kenny Miller when he doesn't play. He leads the line brilliantly, runs the channels, hold up the ball, is the link between midfield and attack and makes Boyd look like a top class striker. When he is missing we don't look half the team, Mendes doesn't look half the player, Boyd doesn't look half the player, I think he is integral to the way we play. Any other reasons why our form has dropped so sharply and dramtically from the first 2 months of the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,764 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Could point to a lot of things. Missing Miller, Thomson Davis Half fit Barry Ferguson. Walters Team selection (the main one for me) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donegal_ger 253 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Kevin Thomson got injured, Ma Baw (he's been that bad he doesn't even want the ball) came back we've been pish since then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF5LOYAL 0 Posted November 30, 2008 Author Share Posted November 30, 2008 Kevin Thomson got injured, Ma Baw (he's been that bad he doesn't even want the ball) came back we've been pish since then. I am a Barry fan but it is impossible to come up with an argument against that. Since he has returned it looks like the whole team has gone into a shell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff 245 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 No Thomson Miller injured Missed Davis for two matches Managerial fcuk ups Stubborness Players off form Players out of position Not taking our chances Defensive fcuk ups Poor refereeing decisions Return of Mr Rangers Mediocre players....the list goes on. Just not good enough at times! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy2212 151 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 what about scoring 5 goals in the 1st half in the ICT game - barry comes on 56th minute and the whole game just died. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 54,216 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I think it all points to the return of Barry Ferguson. When he was out the side guys like Thomson, Boyd, Broadfoot, Papac and Davis were playing like a weight had been lifted from their shoulders. They were stepping up and taking responsibility. However since he came back, they appear to have retreaded back into their shells. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam2102 579 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 No Thomson Miller injured Missed Davis for two matches Managerial fcuk ups Stubborness Players off form Players out of position Not taking our chances Defensive fcuk ups Poor refereeing decisions Return of Mr Rangers Mediocre players....the list goes on. Just not good enough at times! the ones in bold have been going on from mid-way through the eck era - too fcukin long! BUT THE WORST OF ALL IS THE LAST ONE! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy2212 151 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Fuckin wanker get that pricks comments off Whos comments? there was a tim spreading vile - his comments have been removed - well done admin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willieb 0 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Soz the pricks post has been deleted. a sick scummy bastard, well done lads deletin the scumbags comments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff 245 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I delt with timothy - going to clean it up a bit in here so we can get back on topic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam2102 579 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I delt with timothy - going to clean it up a bit in here so we can get back on topic good good. anyway as i was saying, i think many of our current problems are ones that have been recurring EDIT:haha no not you some timmy tosser posting their usual pish ah ok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 so was barry to blame when we dropped points against aberdeen or dundee united, when millar and davis both played. and was barry to blame when we got knocked out by kaunas. i know he is poor at the moment, but to blame him is out of order when we have a manager who plays adam who is usless, and has wasted 30 million pounds on average players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willieb 0 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 the problems lie at the feet of walter as much as i want him to have a say at ibrox he has to take ful responsibilty, the same as he took the credit for getting us to the uefa final. His tactics are woeful at times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF5LOYAL 0 Posted November 30, 2008 Author Share Posted November 30, 2008 so was barry to blame when we dropped points against aberdeen or dundee united, when millar and davis both played. and was barry to blame when we got knocked out by kaunas. i know he is poor at the moment, but to blame him is out of order when we have a manager who plays adam who is usless, and has wasted 30 million pounds on average players. I agree it would be harsh to put the sole blame of Ferguson's return but the point is since he returned we havn't "performed well" In the two games you mentioned we still played excellent football. Aberdeen away we never got the 3 points because of a shitey decision by the linesman and in the Dundee Utd game I though we played our best attacking football we have all season. Just two errors at the back cost us. Any other day we would have hammered them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalbraith 0 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 These were 3 games where we totally trounced our opposition, looked great in attack, our overall football was superb. Now to the last few weeks, we have been dire. Scraping results and losing silly points. Now the only thing I can think of what is causing this is we are missing Kenny Miller when he doesn't play. He leads the line brilliantly, runs the channels, hold up the ball, is the link between midfield and attack and makes Boyd look like a top class striker. When he is missing we don't look half the team, Mendes doesn't look half the player, Boyd doesn't look half the player, I think he is integral to the way we play. Any other reasons why our form has dropped so sharply and dramtically from the first 2 months of the season? If we had the anwser then we would all be football managers. Think is, Walter and Ally don't know - and that's depressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear 25 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Well, i can't realy comment too much as i have not seen a game since the one against the rat catchers. But from the outside looking in it is actually very simple question to answer. Barry Ferguson came back and the wheels fell off a very well oiled train. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenDavis 112 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Losing Thomson didn't help. And the return of a quarter best Ferguson has ruined it. I totally agree with DadoBringBackTheBandage. If I was Walter Smith, I'd let Ferguson sit out the next couple of games and bring in Edu. Or possibly bring Davis into the center and stick someone like Burke or Novo on the right, I'm sick off seeing Lafferty out on the flank where he is hardly in the game and is ineffectual. We have to stop playing Darcheville and Adam aswell, It annoys me when I see their faces on the bench forget the pitch. I'll be looking forward to see if David Murray sticks to his famous quote and spends twice as much as Celtic do, probably not, but I can hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmico1986 0 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 These were 3 games where we totally trounced our opposition, looked great in attack, our overall football was superb. Now to the last few weeks, we have been dire. Scraping results and losing silly points. Now the only thing I can think of what is causing this is we are missing Kenny Miller when he doesn't play. He leads the line brilliantly, runs the channels, hold up the ball, is the link between midfield and attack and makes Boyd look like a top class striker. When he is missing we don't look half the team, Mendes doesn't look half the player, Boyd doesn't look half the player, I think he is integral to the way we play. Any other reasons why our form has dropped so sharply and dramtically from the first 2 months of the season? missing thomson,miller and davis. barry ferguson also played and that hasnt helped us at all(not critiscing him tho because he ISN'T fit and walter shouldn't be playing him if this is the case),we would be better keeping baz in reserves/or bench until fully fit.christ we would be better off playing edu or hemdani Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neishkins 0 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Kevin Thomson got injured, Ma Baw (he's been that bad he doesn't even want the ball) came back we've been pish since then. Case and point well made mate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinyHandsOfConcrete 0 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I think it all points to the return of Barry Ferguson. When he was out the side guys like Thomson, Boyd, Broadfoot, Papac and Davis were playing like a weight had been lifted from their shoulders. They were stepping up and taking responsibility. However since he came back, they appear to have retreaded back into their shells. but why's that fergusons fault? - surely those you mentioned need to realise they need to shoulder their responsibilities whether ferguson's there or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briton 394 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I think it all points to the return of Barry Ferguson. When he was out the side guys like Thomson, Boyd, Broadfoot, Papac and Davis were playing like a weight had been lifted from their shoulders. They were stepping up and taking responsibility. However since he came back, they appear to have retreaded back into their shells. I'm one of Ferguson's biggest critics and think he's always been over rated. I think the early part of the season was great as it showed that those who proclaimed that we need 'Mr Rangers' were mistaken and I wouldn't have been as eager as the management to get him back in the team. Having said that, we did start to stutter before he came back into the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gers_boy_john 2 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Our 2 best results this year have been Celtic & Hibs there the two of the hardest places to go! our midfielded dominted they 2 games and played superb football aswell.. Davis Thomo Memdes Adam. Thomson getting injured has been the big factor no doubt about it, when Ferguson was getting back to fitness i always said Thomo couldn't get dropped for him because he's a different midfielder from Ferguson Mendes Davis. It showed from the very 1st game he missed against motherwell what he brought to our midfield... a ball winner. a player that will get stuck right in and take no shite! It should again on Saturday how much we missed him when Hearts ran over our midfield. Sadly i don't think Pedro looks half the player he is without Thomo beside him Time for a midfield of... Novo Davis Mendes Aarron! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSRFC 0 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 The opposition have sussed us out and we have no reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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