OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I thought Whittaker was our worst player, closely followed by Adam and Boyd. Miller and Ferguson weren't far behind. Don't think any of them were as bad a Boyd. otherwise they would have been hooked before him? oh wait It wasn't "Whittaker's big chance" to prove he can do it against Celtic. Boyd's one of the worst players in our squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I thought Whittaker was our worst player, closely followed by Adam and Boyd. Miller and Ferguson weren't far behind. Don't think any of them were as bad a Boyd. otherwise they would have been hooked before him? oh wait It wasn't "Whittaker's big chance" to prove he can do it against Celtic. Boyd's one of the worst players in our squad. Worse than Charlie Adam, Lee McCulloch, Kirk Broadfoot, Christian Dailly, Steven Whittaker? I'd say he's a much better asset to the squad than all of them! Boyd is not perfect but your top goalscorer is not one of the worst players in the squad. What you said about Whittaker sums up this situation, because Boyd hadn't played against Celtic for 5 games people were going to look at his peformance closely. But just because Boyd was the one who hadn't played against Celtic in 5 games doesn't mean that the likes of Whittaker who played awful should get any less critisism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I think some people are missing the point with Boyd. He does score goals and that is a striker's job but i think we could honestly do better than Kris boyd from a "player" point of view and not just a finisher. If things aren't going right, what does he do? He doesn't work hard at all. A perfect example of this was samaras at the weekend, got back into midfield to cut out passes which could of been threatning to our goal. His link up play is poor as well. He doesn't hold up the ball well at all. No quality first touch and hardly any pace. Just look at the amount of times he got caught in offside positions at the weekend. The only thing i remember him for in the match. Plus he got that 1 chance and blew it. I don't think he will be a Rangers player next season. Or he shoulnd't be because i don't think over 38 games he offers enough quality in overall play to help us win the title. You need a bit more than just good finishing. Boyd has improved all these features of his game this season, i'm not willing to forget all that after one game, i think its clear he has done hard work this season. I think Boyd will survive and that he should survive, some players at the highest level have have built their entire reputation in a similar way to Boyd, Inzaghi for example is only well known for scoring goals. I'm not in any way suggesting Boyd is at the level of someone like Inzaghi but it shows that simple goal poachers have played and are still playing at the highest level. At the end of the day Boyd doesn't have to start every game, hes just a useful player to have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I think some people are missing the point with Boyd. He does score goals and that is a striker's job but i think we could honestly do better than Kris boyd from a "player" point of view and not just a finisher. If things aren't going right, what does he do? He doesn't work hard at all. A perfect example of this was samaras at the weekend, got back into midfield to cut out passes which could of been threatning to our goal. His link up play is poor as well. He doesn't hold up the ball well at all. No quality first touch and hardly any pace. Just look at the amount of times he got caught in offside positions at the weekend. The only thing i remember him for in the match. Plus he got that 1 chance and blew it. I don't think he will be a Rangers player next season. Or he shoulnd't be because i don't think over 38 games he offers enough quality in overall play to help us win the title. You need a bit more than just good finishing. Boyd has improved all these features of his game this season, i'm not willing to forget all that after one game, i think its clear he has done hard work this season. I think Boyd will survive and that he should survive, some players at the highest level have have built their entire reputation in a similar way to Boyd, Inzaghi for example is only well known for scoring goals. I'm not in any way suggesting Boyd is at the level of someone like Inzaghi but it shows that simple goal poachers have played and are still playing at the highest level. At the end of the day Boyd doesn't have to start every game, hes just a useful player to have. Has he really improved those other aspects of his games that much? Cousin was much better. His only flaw was attitude, but Boyd's not any better in that regard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersAndy 0 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I thought Whittaker was our worst player, closely followed by Adam and Boyd. Miller and Ferguson weren't far behind. Don't think any of them were as bad a Boyd. otherwise they would have been hooked before him? oh wait It wasn't "Whittaker's big chance" to prove he can do it against Celtic. Boyd's one of the worst players in our squad. A slight overreaction due to him missing a chance in a old firm game maybe? had that gone in, which 9 times out of 10 with him it does, you and the rest of the pessimistic fans our club has would shut up until next time they are presented with an opperunity to jump on the guys back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I think some people are missing the point with Boyd. He does score goals and that is a striker's job but i think we could honestly do better than Kris boyd from a "player" point of view and not just a finisher. If things aren't going right, what does he do? He doesn't work hard at all. A perfect example of this was samaras at the weekend, got back into midfield to cut out passes which could of been threatning to our goal. His link up play is poor as well. He doesn't hold up the ball well at all. No quality first touch and hardly any pace. Just look at the amount of times he got caught in offside positions at the weekend. The only thing i remember him for in the match. Plus he got that 1 chance and blew it. I don't think he will be a Rangers player next season. Or he shoulnd't be because i don't think over 38 games he offers enough quality in overall play to help us win the title. You need a bit more than just good finishing. Boyd has improved all these features of his game this season, i'm not willing to forget all that after one game, i think its clear he has done hard work this season. I think Boyd will survive and that he should survive, some players at the highest level have have built their entire reputation in a similar way to Boyd, Inzaghi for example is only well known for scoring goals. I'm not in any way suggesting Boyd is at the level of someone like Inzaghi but it shows that simple goal poachers have played and are still playing at the highest level. At the end of the day Boyd doesn't have to start every game, hes just a useful player to have. Has he really improved those other aspects of his games that much? Cousin was much better. His only flaw was attitude, but Boyd's not any better in that regard. Well i certainly did see an improvement in the last 3 months or so and many others seemed to as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Is Boyd good enough to lead us to a title with 20-30 league goals? I don't think he is. I don't think he is a good enough player in terms of everything that goes along with being a striker like link up play, holding the ball up, setting up goals for your team mates. At the moment he isn't the heart of the problem but could we do better and get in a better player and i think we could. He may have 16 goals this season and that is very good but when it comes down to it and you need a performance of quality and work rate, does he cut it? I don't think he does. Plus when was the last time he scored in an OF game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Is Boyd good enough to lead us to a title with 20-30 league goals? I don't think he is. I don't think he is a good enough player in terms of everything that goes along with being a striker like link up play, holding the ball up, setting up goals for your team mates. At the moment he isn't the heart of the problem but could we do better and get in a better player and i think we could. He may have 16 goals this season and that is very good but when it comes down to it and you need a performance of quality and work rate, does he cut it? I don't think he does. Plus when was the last time he scored in an OF game? Old Firm games are not the be all and end all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andypendek Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 The most annoying thing is that if he'd scored the monkey would be off his back, we'd have won, and he could have gone on with confidence. I reckon he's blown it now, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Stars Bearette 1 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 anyone watch the Man U game last night once again their megabuck boys kept missing the net. Lets keep Boyd's miss in perspective Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 For me, Boyd's issue is more about what he doesn't do when it's not working out for us. He becomes a passenger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbm26896 995 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Boyd should be sold ASAP , we dont need his goals , we need movement , a good 1st touch , good link up play , a better team player, then I hear the names Lafferty , Velicka , Novo , and I work it out = anyone except boyd , beacause not one of these players mentioned are any better than boyd he was nowhere near being our worst player on saturday, but he missed a chance against celtic and was EASILY the reason we lost, not our defence , not our midfield , our striker was the reason we lost People on here wonder why managers ignore fans opinions I have never heard so much shite as the criticism on here for our players , it was a poor game and we never looked like losing it, we did and the bombardment of criticism starts, You could name the usual suspects before the celtic game , no goal = the slaughtering of Boyd , I personally thought he should have scored but to get the criticism that he has on here since is absloute nonsense But lets be honest, us on the internet forum specialist have all the answers It just becomes so tedious at times reading the same names post the same shite day in day out. I hope Boyd continues to play until we find someone better than him. At rangers at the moment he is the best option we have to get goals only my opinion of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff 245 Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 You could name the usual suspects before the celtic game , no goal = the slaughtering of Boyd , You could name the usual suspects who would back him to the hilt no matter how poor he performed - some of these people tell us, 'he only need's the one chance' Quite right the team go bombarded with criticism - their performance was a disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Boyd should be sold ASAP , we dont need his goals , we need movement , a good 1st touch , good link up play , a better team player, then I hear the names Lafferty , Velicka , Novo , and I work it out = anyone except boyd , beacause not one of these players mentioned are any better than boyd he was nowhere near being our worst player on saturday, but he missed a chance against celtic and was EASILY the reason we lost, not our defence , not our midfield , our striker was the reason we lost People on here wonder why managers ignore fans opinions I have never heard so much shite as the criticism on here for our players , it was a poor game and we never looked like losing it, we did and the bombardment of criticism starts, You could name the usual suspects before the celtic game , no goal = the slaughtering of Boyd , I personally thought he should have scored but to get the criticism that he has on here since is absloute nonsense But lets be honest, us on the internet forum specialist have all the answers It just becomes so tedious at times reading the same names post the same shite day in day out. I hope Boyd continues to play until we find someone better than him. At rangers at the moment he is the best option we have to get goals only my opinion of course Cousin was a better footballer than Boyd by alot of means but hes gone now and ain't gonna be back. To be fair on Lafferty hes not been tried up front yet but there's no guarintees he'd offer anymore, all the same he should be given a chance probably next week.. And like i've said before i think Miller's form has dropped the last 2 or 3 games, he needs to be dropped just to give him a kick up the arse and to send a message hes not just guarinteed a first 11 place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
polar bear 0 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I think some people are missing the point with Boyd. He does score goals and that is a striker's job but i think we could honestly do better than Kris boyd from a "player" point of view and not just a finisher. If things aren't going right, what does he do? He doesn't work hard at all. A perfect example of this was samaras at the weekend, got back into midfield to cut out passes which could of been threatning to our goal. His link up play is poor as well. He doesn't hold up the ball well at all. No quality first touch and hardly any pace. Just look at the amount of times he got caught in offside positions at the weekend. The only thing i remember him for in the match. Plus he got that 1 chance and blew it. I don't think he will be a Rangers player next season. Or he shoulnd't be because i don't think over 38 games he offers enough quality in overall play to help us win the title. You need a bit more than just good finishing. There 's a few of us who have been saying this for a couple of years now.Your'e also right with your Samaras point.I think Lafferty could be our Samaras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbm26896 995 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 You could name the usual suspects before the celtic game , no goal = the slaughtering of Boyd , You could name the usual suspects who would back him to the hilt no matter how poor he performed - some of these people tell us, 'he only need's the one chance' Quite right the team go bombarded with criticism - their performance was a disgrace. i expected to get that reaction who backed him to th hilt ? not me , I personally think he should have scored, played ok not good and certainly not shite or the worst player for us the team performance was not a disgrace , sure it lacked flair and imagination , we were never pinned back at any time , a bit of natural width in the team and we could have beaten them the overeaction on here is difficult to take sometimes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Samaras is overated, i know many Celtic fans thought he was brutal on Saturday. He scores goals especially from the bench last season but hes not as good a goalscorer at Boyd, in general i've never got the impression he does all that much else. He was certainly brutal at Euro 2008 anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbm26896 995 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Samaras is overated, i know many Celtic fans thought he was brutal on Saturday. He scores goals especially from the bench last season but hes not as good a goalscorer at Boyd, in general i've never got the impression he does all that much else. He was certainly brutal at Euro 2008 anyway. it does not matter how bad he is , he is not Boyd, so some would prefer him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_ni 12 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 boyd wanted to play, i admit i wanted him to play, he got the chance to play and he got the chance to score and he blew it. Any other game and that ball would be in the back of the net, he choked and hit it straight at boruc. He contributed bugger all to our play on sat. There were plenty of others didnt perform but he was the one mouthing off about wanting a start and its backfired on him so he can expect most of the criticism. If only we could find someone who could score as many as him but actually had the pace/workrate of miller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 boyd wanted to play, i admit i wanted him to play, he got the chance to play and he got the chance to score and he blew it. Any other game and that ball would be in the back of the net, he choked and hit it straight at boruc. He contributed bugger all to our play on sat. There were plenty of others didnt perform but he was the one mouthing off about wanting a start and its backfired on him so he can expect most of the criticism. If only we could find someone who could score as many as him but actually had the pace/workrate of miller He shouldn't, whatever Boyd said before the match should not let our other shite players off the hook. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenose_Pete 4 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Boyd doesnt score in one match and is being slated again.... some people are never happy. where would we be in the league just now if Boydy wouldnt have rattled all those goals home? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbm26896 995 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Boyd doesnt score in one match and is being slated again.... some people are never happy. where would we be in the league just now if Boydy wouldnt have rattled all those goals home? helmet on the gang are due on <_< Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Boyd doesnt score in one match and is being slated again.... some people are never happy. where would we be in the league just now if Boydy wouldnt have rattled all those goals home? The common response to that is that if Boyd hadn't been playing we'd apparently have created more chances as a team. In all the matches Boyd has scored in this season though i didn't personally think he held us back attacking wise, so its not an arguement i agree with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenose_Pete 4 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 dont need no helmet bro its a serious question to the ppl who slate him week in week out where would we be in the league if he never scored his 18 goals this season.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenose_Pete 4 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Boyd doesnt score in one match and is being slated again.... some people are never happy. where would we be in the league just now if Boydy wouldnt have rattled all those goals home? The common response to that is that if Boyd hadn't been playing we'd apparently have created more chances as a team. In all the matches Boyd has scored in this season though i didn't personally think he held us back attacking wise, so its not an arguement i agree with. thats not what i asked.... i asked where would rangers be in the league without his 18 goals....??? scary to think isnt it. KRIS BOYD LOYAL!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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