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1 minute ago, British_Empire said:

Thing is mate, you don't need a winger to rip him when he's constantly out of position and sleeping. Opposition target him. They admit it (or do afterwards)

They can drag him about everywhere. 

I do agree tho (in his defence) than when it bounces near him and it's 1 vs 1 he does well 

Don't agree it's constantly but I'd agree that's his main fault.

What you get in return is probably the best athlete in the league, probably the best 1 v 1 full back in the league (alongside or bar Barisic), probably the best crosser of a ball in the league (alongside or bar Barisic), probably the most technical full back in the league bar Barisic and so on and so forth. I've seen balls pinged at him he's had no right to bring down and he's cushioned it like it was nothing.

If he was as elite at defensive positioning and all round reading of the game as he was at some of the things he excels at (at his best, I think he's lost a bit going forward over the past year or so) he'd be at an Arsenal or someone. But he's not, the same way Barisic's lack of pace will probably hold him back from playing at the very top end of the league in England.

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5 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said:

Don't agree it's constantly but I'd agree that's his main fault.

What you get in return is probably the best athlete in the league, probably the best 1 v 1 full back in the league (alongside or bar Barisic), probably the best crosser of a ball in the league (alongside or bar Barisic), probably the most technical full back in the league bar Barisic and so on and so forth. I've seen balls pinged at him he's had no right to bring down and he's cushioned it like it was nothing.

If he was as elite at defensive positioning and all round reading of the game as he was at some of the things he excels at (at his best, I think he's lost a bit going forward over the past year or so) he'd be at an Arsenal or someone. But he's not, the same way Barisic's lack of pace will probably hold him back from playing at the very top end of the league in England.

Couple bits of that I don't agree with mate but fair enough. It's just about opinions and you're constructive enough there. 

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1 hour ago, British_Empire said:

Doesn't matter - if you're a Rangers fan you (should) strive for the best.

He's our captain and an awful right-back. 

I do get folk saying we won today and I admit it was a good day - but why ignore glaring problems in our side? guys a clown. Everyone knows it.

Honestly mate.  You’re clearly hurting about something.  Haven’t read all your posts but we’re top of the league.  

Sandy jardine and Hutton apart I think Tav is best right full back in years.  He has defensive lapses and crossing lapses but I think had most assists last 2 years? Despite his “shit crissing”

1 goal conceded in all games against possible German tournament winners.  He did not have a good game there but few did. 

If you”re Rangers fan then try not to call our captain a clown

Please.  Just to keep an older guy happy who used to go watch Jim Denny at full back. 

 

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1 minute ago, Essandoh said:

Some cunt start another thread so my name isn’t attached to it such a riddy :lol: 

I was caught up in the rage of that cup final talking absolute shite

Should have it pinned at the top like the politics section a Tavernier thread. All the insults and praise can go in the one bit

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10 minutes ago, Thornliebanktrueblue said:

Honestly mate.  You’re clearly hurting about something.  Haven’t read all your posts but we’re top of the league.  

Sandy jardine and Hutton apart I think Tav is best right full back in years.  He has defensive lapses and crossing lapses but I think had most assists last 2 years? Despite his “shit crissing”

1 goal conceded in all games against possible German tournament winners.  He did not have a good game there but few did. 

If you”re Rangers fan then try not to call our captain a clown

Please.  Just to keep an older guy happy who used to go watch Jim Denny at full back. 

 

maybe you should read all my posts then, because I'm delighted. 

and I've said as much in other threads.

James Taverneir is a clown. He's cost us about 15 goals past 4 years from being a clown. 

Up until now, my record at games will put most folk to shame. I'm not bragging. Plenty on here know me. That's changed though from this season. That's not me anymore. Between the corrupt SPFL, giving celtic titles they've not won, Rangers not contesting it, MYGers, BLM kneeling shite, Stewart Robertson telling folk who take issue not to come back - it's ripped the heart right out me and it's not for me now.

I watched the game in the Louden Duke Street today and had a great day watching my team. 

That's where it starts and ends now. 

Your last line I respect so much. You're a different era and you're asking me, nicely, to not call a Rangers captain a clown - as an old guy. Promise I won't call him a clown again on here from this point on. For you mate :tu: that's not me being sarcastic either. 

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2 minutes ago, British_Empire said:

maybe you should read all my posts then, because I'm delighted. 

and I've said as much in other threads.

James Taverneir is a fucking clown. I'll call him it all I want. That's what a forum is about. He's cost us about 15 goals past 4 years from being a clown. 

Up until now, my record at games will put most folk to shame. I'm not bragging. Plenty on here know me. That's changed though from this season. That's not me anymore. Between the corrupt SPFL, giving celtic titles they've not won, Rangers not contesting it, MYGers, BLM kneeling shite, Stewart Robertson telling folk who take issue not to come back - it's ripped the heart right out me and it's not for me now.

I watched the game in the Louden Duke Street today and had a great day watching my team. 

That's where it starts and ends now. 

Your last line I respect so much. You're a different era and you're asking me, nicely, to not call a Rangers captain a clown - as an old guy. Promise I won't call him a clown again on here. For you mate :tu: 

Ok mate.  No more clowning!

i respect your right to criticise. And I get your discomfort with some aspects of where we are.  But many of these are cultural societal issues.  Also the club may be choosing to choose their battles.  I have mates who didn’t go back after Mo Johnson signed.  

I said to my son and his mates the season before we were demoted will you still support them.  They were there at Brechin and are still there.  Try not to get angry with the world and just support the players.  The Jerseys.  

Get back.  Give it a go.  Go on. 

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Just now, Thornliebanktrueblue said:

Ok mate.  No more clowning!

i respect your right to criticise. And I get your discomfort with some aspects of where we are.  But many of these are cultural societal issues.  Also the club may be choosing to choose their battles.  I have mates who didn’t go back after Mo Johnson signed.  

I said to my son and his mates the season before we were demoted will you still support them.  They were there at Brechin and are still there.  Try not to get angry with the world and just support the players.  The Jerseys.  

Get back.  Give it a go.  Go on. 

Good post. 

But everything is still far too raw. 

That prick Stewart Robertson still rings on my ears every time I try to reason with myself.

Minute he's fired, I'll be back with bells on - the way I feel atm

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Just now, British_Empire said:

Good post. 

But everything is still far too raw. 

That prick Stewart Robertson still rings on my ears every time I try to reason with myself.

Minute he's fired, I'll be back with bells on - the way I feel atm

Tbh I pay little attention to the owners spokespersons and backroom staff.  

I foucus on the players.  Tav has been a loyal servant who has faults.  And I think Alfredo is a God, albeit a grumpy one.  

I’m off to bed. No disrespect intended.  

We”re top of the league and they’re no

Good night 

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3 hours ago, British_Empire said:

likewise you trying to say I think my opinion is the only one that counts :lol: 

Tav is garbage. It's not even my opinion it's started to become fact in all honesty

That is 100% your opinion and NOT fact.

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Just now, British_Empire said:

Same way when you spoke down your nose to me a couple of hours ago earlier like I was a piece of a shit, that was your OPINION NOT FACT

I simply used your own words against you.

 

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Just now, gogzy said:

I simply used your own words against you.

 

no you never, not before, I'd like to see you go round everycunt you disagree with and bark and them something along the lines of "just because you think so doesn't make it right" like folk can't have opinions

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Just now, British_Empire said:

no you never, not before, I'd like to see you go round everycunt you disagree with and bark and them something along the lines of "just because you think so doesn't make it right" like folk can't have opinions

lol you typed this

 

4 hours ago, British_Empire said:

Sure he was. You (and the rest of them) watch totally different games to the rest of the support.

I know you maybe don't want to acknowledge it (and others too) but I the pub I was in Louden Street cunts were screaming at the telly at him, to a man.

He's fucking garbage. Sooner people accept it the better.

^^^

 

 

4 hours ago, gogzy said:

All about opinions. 

It is possible that it's your opinion that's wrong.  The sooner you accept that the better.

I typed this ^^^

 

I didn't talk down my nose to you, I didn't talk to you like shit.  I simply said your opinion is possibly wrong,  then typed the same as you.

 

Don't accuse me of talking down to you when I done nothing of the sort.  utter nonsense.

 

Folk absolutely can have opinions,  you have yours and I have mine.  In this case those opinions differ.

 

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Just now, gogzy said:

lol you typed this

 

^^^

 

 

I typed this ^^^

 

I didn't talk down my nose to you, I didn't talk to you like shit.  I simply said your opinion is possibly wrong,  then typed the same as you.

 

Don't accuse me of talking down to you when I done nothing of the sort.  utter nonsense.

 

Folk absolutely can have opinions,  you have yours and I have mine.  In this case those opinions differ.

 

"sooner you accept this the better"

accept what?

I accept differences of opinions all the time, I'll never accept stupid snide comments like that. 

People who are respectful to me even if they disagree get plenty respect back. 

You did talk down to me. You know you did. 

 

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1 minute ago, British_Empire said:

"sooner you accept this the better"

accept what?

I accept differences of opinions all the time, I'll never accept stupid snide comments like that. 

People who are respectful to me even if they disagree get plenty respect back. 

You did talk down to me. You know you did. 

 

Those were your fucking words.

 

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He's fucking garbage. Sooner people accept it the better.

 

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