Bobby83

Imo, If we had been patient, and not spat the dummy when he took a disliking to Barry and the lad culture of the club. We would be a completely transformed club, Le Guen would have brought more coaches from the continent and instilled a concentration on fitness and technique all the way down the club. No one can predict what would have happened, but our short sightedness allowed us to miss out on something big imo.

Do you think Smith will have taught him how to avoid playing youth though? Do we really want someone who is learning the trade from a dinosaur? Its nuts.

Exactly could have been a great, another wasted Scottish talent.

I don't think he will. Not this season anyway. Walt will put him in the reserves. Or maybe Left back.

Going nowhere, dont be silly.

Id imagine because of the length of the loan, he is going to be back up in a time of injuries.

Assuming Walt doesn't inhibit their development by staying or get rid of them. There are some great youth players at our club that I believe (under any other manager) would be destined for the 1st team. John Fleck - obvious, but we will have to see if he comes back from his injury the same player, or if its recurring which it very well could be. Archie Campbell - I think hes as much of a prospect as Fleck. Jordan McMillan - Big Lee's understudy, will have to wait his chance, hope he goes on loan. Andrew Shinnie - Fantastic player, almost 20 and almost wasted, hopefully his loan spell at Dundee shoes Walt he could fit in. Others - Jamie Ness and Efrem. Send them on loan if we are never going to play them. Anyone comments lads? Or others you would like to add?

He ain't goin nowhere unfortunately, we will still stumble through the campaign, beating shite opposition 2-1 and papering over the cracks. I wouldnt be suprised if walt got an extension.

He is not going to Man City, I don't know where you're getting that from. McMillan, Shinnie, Loy, Fleck are all decent Scottish players that will play for Rangers in the future. As docspiderman said, Arsenal will be having a lot of English players coming though shortly. Shinnie and Loy must be coming up for 21, they've been wasted already. Fleck will have made fewer than 10 appearances for the first team by the team Walt leaves in 2010 (if he does leave).

Golden generation of kids are being wasted, and Dinosmith is going nowhere, not much we can do.

Finished my arse. He had the same injury on his opposite knee. No reason why he can't come back bigger and better! But until he's fully recovered and back to full fitness then he shouldn't be offered a new deal. A big fear would be if he comes back with even less pace than he had before. No deal until he is back and proved that he is still able to play at spl level, we have wasted too much money on players unable to be fit enough to play games. Exactly both knees, hes done. I dont mean to say he'll have to retirte, but at this level, SPL/ Europe/ international he'll never be the player he was progressing in to - like Stevie Smith.

Niceties aside, hes finished. Id rather he didn't get another contract. Had high hopes for the lad, sad his career is ruined, but thats business, we're not a charity.

Its a shame, would have been a great player for us and Scotland. Now will miss alot of football, and will not come back the same player. No chance.

Fleck, Efrem, Cole, Shinnie. All good, but you;d have to be world class to get a chance as a kid under smith. So if Fleck plays his cards right he might get a game in a few years, here hoping

Aint gonna come through. In Scottish terms, hes just a kid at 21. Debut will come around 23 if we still have him. On a serious note, its fucking ridiculous the players rotting in our reserves. Fitting one or 2 in every now and then isnt gonna lose us the league fuck sake.

Rangers have, not Smith. Can't force him to play a good youngster.

We could have a golden generation of Scottish youngsters on our hands. Well could have, but the Dinosaur will fuck it up. Loy will never come through, neither will Fleck or the others. Fleck is good enough (if he comes back that is) for first team football - its the SPL ffs. And Loy is like 20, too late to come in now. Short sighted bastard Smith is, fucking up the best young group we've had in a long time, id be suprised if one came through. Murray should be on his back, would save money. Id Walter eventually leaves, it will be too late for most these kids.

We could have a golden generation of Scottish youngsters on our hands. Well could have, but the Dinosaur will fuck it up. Loy will never come through, neither will Fleck or the others. Fleck is good enough (if he comes back that is) for first team football - its the SPL ffs. And Loy is like 20, too late to come in now. Short sides bastard Smith is, fucking up the best young group we've had in a long time, id be suprised if one came through.

I honestly think it will be. Knee damage, no doubt it will be recurring. Going by the curse of the Scottish youngster, this and the series of injuries that follow will see him barely play this season, and stunt his progression. Bet hes done.

Shame, thats him done. Could have also been first choice Scotland left back by now.

Lads, sometimes in this area some of us are as bad as the tims. Alot of them won't support Scotland cause they feel their players are booed and not welcome (and they feel that we make up the majority of the Scottish support that are on an anti-celtic agenda), the result of this is the majority of Scotland supporters now being from the highlands! Illl always support Scotland.

Sad thing is, few if any of these boys will see the first team any time soon down to the must win every game mentality. Smith has never been one for brining in youngsters.

Who of the current u19 crop do you guys think will make the first team? Obviously Fleck, but who else has that genuine quality.