minstral 5,375 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 We need to start closing down teams and stop giving them easy possession. Against celtic yesterday not many players were trying to close them down and its a bad habit we seem to have. Also our midfield will have to start holding the ball much better, and not look as if the quicker the get rid of the ball the better. also we need mendes back to his best and help us get over the line but the Hibs game will tell us all we need to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanMac 185 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 This was the main talking point in the pub yesterday Minstral The first half we were in their faces, challenging ever ball and winning them, but as soon as we got our goal it was the typical WS tactics of sitting back and defending. We made them look like a good passing team yesterday because we sat off them too much. When are we going to realise that that we can actually play football and our goals very rarely come from sitting back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalbluebell 38 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 I didn't think we would would be able to hang on to that lead for so long yesterday. The amount of possession they had was ridiculous. Mendes was reported missing for most of the game, he looked so promising in his OF Derby too. Lets hope we've yet to see the best of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Mendes gave the ball away far too often yesterday.... Very dissapointing show from Mendes..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 941 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Mendes has to try the simple pass sometimes. Then again, that's what Barry done for years and will forever be remembered as 'Barry Backpass' by some. Can't win! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Width would be handy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 941 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 This was the main talking point in the pub yesterday Minstral The first half we were in their faces, challenging ever ball and winning them, but as soon as we got our goal it was the typical WS tactics of sitting back and defending. We made them look like a good passing team yesterday because we sat off them too much. When are we going to realise that that we can actually play football and our goals very rarely come from sitting back. Were we ever in their faces? We do it all the time, sitting back allowing the opposition to play football in front of us. At one point in the 2nd half, Celtic had 71% possession! The first bit of football we played all day resulted in a goal - it's something that I wish Smith would learn from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 This was the main talking point in the pub yesterday Minstral The first half we were in their faces, challenging ever ball and winning them, but as soon as we got our goal it was the typical WS tactics of sitting back and defending. We made them look like a good passing team yesterday because we sat off them too much. When are we going to realise that that we can actually play football and our goals very rarely come from sitting back. Were we ever in their faces? We do it all the time, sitting back allowing the opposition to play football in front of us. At one point in the 2nd half, Celtic had 71% possession! Walter Smith has made a career of winning old firm games like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 941 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 This was the main talking point in the pub yesterday Minstral The first half we were in their faces, challenging ever ball and winning them, but as soon as we got our goal it was the typical WS tactics of sitting back and defending. We made them look like a good passing team yesterday because we sat off them too much. When are we going to realise that that we can actually play football and our goals very rarely come from sitting back. Were we ever in their faces? We do it all the time, sitting back allowing the opposition to play football in front of us. At one point in the 2nd half, Celtic had 71% possession! Walter Smith has made a career of winning old firm games like that. This is true, but we no longer have the ability to give the ball to a Gazza or a Laudrup to run up the park and score with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
laudrupforever 17 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 If we get pumped in possession, shots on goal, etc etc but we win the next three games 1-0, I wouldn't care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 941 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 If we get pumped in possession, shots on goal, etc etc but we win the next three games 1-0, I wouldn't care. I agree, but that won't happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 We need to start closing down teams and stop giving them easy possession. Against celtic yesterday not many players were trying to close them down and its a bad habit we seem to have. Also our midfield will have to start holding the ball much better, and not look as if the quicker the get rid of the ball the better. also we need mendes back to his best and help us get over the line but the Hibs game will tell us all we need to know. lost my voice shouting this to them yesterday, absolutely mental, we played a dodgy game in the second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickieboo1972 25 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 oh my god who gives a fuck!!! we won a miassve old firm game! one of the biggest for years and yet this place is still trying to pick holes in it! i really cant imagine how horrifying it must be to witness a momentous victory for the bears and them come home, go on this, and basically complain! slag smiths tactics all you want, you know what he would reply... what was the score? cmon to fuck guys. we are three wins away from the title, if we win them all 1-0 exactly the same way, i will call smith a tactical fuckings genious! even though i know he is a footballing dinosaur. but its not about him or me or you. its about the gers, and we are top of the league. sometimes i think we could win the champions league and there would be a thread 'where we were poor...' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,589 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 what people have to remember is that while the beggars had all the ball, it was in the 2/3rds of the pitch that we didnt give a flying fuck about, the minute they came within 35 yards of our goal there was more than 1 blue shirt ready to kick anything in green and white that moved maybe our players arent fit enough to chase all over the park, i dunno but for all the possesion they had, how many times did they look like scoring i'd say once when davis cleared it off the line that a pretty good stat considering they are the top scorers in the league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeBurn 57 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Possession is nothing when its in their own half. They tried to tire our players out, and for once our players looked fit and ran from the first minute till the last. all their possession was in Their own half and the middle, when they got closer than 30 yards, there was 10 players defending. Thats teamwork. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 34,078 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Closed them down in the first half they were going nowhere but the old Wattie showed in the second half, hold on to what we got, we should have kept up the assualt battering balls into that goalmouth, that fat arsehole is an accident waiting to happen especially in conditions like yesterday ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezrfc1 26 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 If we get pumped in possession, shots on goal, etc etc but we win the next three games 1-0, I wouldn't care. same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youllneverwinaway 0 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 We need to start closing down teams and stop giving them easy possession. Against celtic yesterday not many players were trying to close them down and its a bad habit we seem to have. Also our midfield will have to start holding the ball much better, and not look as if the quicker the get rid of the ball the better. also we need mendes back to his best and help us get over the line but the Hibs game will tell us all we need to know. Thats where we really miss Thommo. He never gave anyone a minutes peace and i think the work he put in allowed Mendes the time and space to be more creative IMHO. Cant wait to Thommo comes back though i do think Edu has stepped up to the oche well since the demise of Fergie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryann 0 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 there possession went for nothin in the end, but i do agree we shouldnt have been letting them attack us for most of the second half. that was the hardest game out the way, now bring on the next 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted May 10, 2009 Author Share Posted May 10, 2009 oh my god who gives a fuck!!! we won a miassve old firm game! one of the biggest for years and yet this place is still trying to pick holes in it! i really cant imagine how horrifying it must be to witness a momentous victory for the bears and them come home, go on this, and basically complain! slag smiths tactics all you want, you know what he would reply... what was the score? cmon to fuck guys. we are three wins away from the title, if we win them all 1-0 exactly the same way, i will call smith a tactical fuckings genious! even though i know he is a footballing dinosaur. but its not about him or me or you. its about the gers, and we are top of the league. sometimes i think we could win the champions league and there would be a thread 'where we were poor...' Dont you understand that if we have the ball and keep a hold of it then the other team cant hurt you. But you must be deluded if you think you can keep giving teams easy possession and not get caught out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie1873 0 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Definitely think we need to start chasing a bit more and certainly need more closing down. I agree with the fact that we cannot allow teams too much possession, no matter where it is on the pitch. While I don't agree with the backward passing all the time, we certainly should employ it when needed. Too many times over the years we have had promising situations around the opposing box only to see it passed back into our own half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritishBear 34 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 oh my god who gives a fuck!!! we won a miassve old firm game! one of the biggest for years and yet this place is still trying to pick holes in it! i really cant imagine how horrifying it must be to witness a momentous victory for the bears and them come home, go on this, and basically complain! slag smiths tactics all you want, you know what he would reply... what was the score? cmon to fuck guys. we are three wins away from the title, if we win them all 1-0 exactly the same way, i will call smith a tactical fuckings genious! even though i know he is a footballing dinosaur. but its not about him or me or you. its about the gers, and we are top of the league. sometimes i think we could win the champions league and there would be a thread 'where we were poor...' Dont you understand that if we have the ball and keep a hold of it then the other team cant hurt you. But you must be deluded if you think you can keep giving teams easy possession and not get caught out. I've been saying it for weeks Minstral, some on here think that you are complaining about winning ugly, which isn't the case, we need to retain the ball better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted May 10, 2009 Author Share Posted May 10, 2009 oh my god who gives a fuck!!! we won a miassve old firm game! one of the biggest for years and yet this place is still trying to pick holes in it! i really cant imagine how horrifying it must be to witness a momentous victory for the bears and them come home, go on this, and basically complain! slag smiths tactics all you want, you know what he would reply... what was the score? cmon to fuck guys. we are three wins away from the title, if we win them all 1-0 exactly the same way, i will call smith a tactical fuckings genious! even though i know he is a footballing dinosaur. but its not about him or me or you. its about the gers, and we are top of the league. sometimes i think we could win the champions league and there would be a thread 'where we were poor...' Dont you understand that if we have the ball and keep a hold of it then the other team cant hurt you. But you must be deluded if you think you can keep giving teams easy possession and not get caught out. I've been saying it for weeks Minstral, some on here think that you are complaining about winning ugly, which isn't the case, we need to retain the ball better. Hi mate you are right it was not about winning ugly, just i was panicking every time they got near our goal and the pressure was murder. We let them have to much off the ball second half and we started to defend deeper and deeper, and thats when we could have done with someone who could keep hold of the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickieboo1972 25 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 oh my god who gives a fuck!!! we won a miassve old firm game! one of the biggest for years and yet this place is still trying to pick holes in it! i really cant imagine how horrifying it must be to witness a momentous victory for the bears and them come home, go on this, and basically complain! slag smiths tactics all you want, you know what he would reply... what was the score? cmon to fuck guys. we are three wins away from the title, if we win them all 1-0 exactly the same way, i will call smith a tactical fuckings genious! even though i know he is a footballing dinosaur. but its not about him or me or you. its about the gers, and we are top of the league. sometimes i think we could win the champions league and there would be a thread 'where we were poor...' Dont you understand that if we have the ball and keep a hold of it then the other team cant hurt you. But you must be deluded if you think you can keep giving teams easy possession and not get caught out. I've been saying it for weeks Minstral, some on here think that you are complaining about winning ugly, which isn't the case, we need to retain the ball better. i am fully aware of the vast amount of things that this rangers team lacks and needs improvement on. i just hate this attitude of criticism that is spreading throughout the rangers support. we can do all the complaining we want when things are going badly or whenwe are on a losing streak. but can we not just enjoy the sides success for at least a day when the wins are coming thick and fast as they are now? its the difference between 'support'ing the team and assessing them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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