gunslinger 270 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 No he didnt cannigia wasnt part of 9IAR unless im really confused , he was an advocat signing . I thought it was mcleish that signed him but apparently nothe means bud johnston. another player smith didnt sign on the list. i am not sure huistras a great example either smith didnt seem to rate him much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 I wasn't necessarily listing players Walter had bought but who Rangers had bought who had provided width and therefore went on to win things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allzo 91 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Woosh....talk about missing the point!Not one of the players you have quoted could in any way be classed as an out and out winger. Abidal and Alves are defenders! The reason I mentioned Barcelona is because as you say they have massive width, but achieve it without playing a single player who could be labelled a typical winger.And they certainly don't play 4-4-2 eitherThe fail is all on your part mateMessi and Pedro are wingers IMO.I wouldn't class them as strikers, they're both forward players but they're not out and out strikers so I'd say they're both wingers.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I wasn't necessarily listing players Walter had bought but who Rangers had bought who had provided width and therefore went on to win things.ah so were missrepresenting your point. interesting. can i list strikers or central mids smith has played wide who have won things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeBlue 39 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 smiths best signings imho.It doesn't have to be about Rangers... width wins things all over the world.. The best teams play with width. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeBlue 39 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Laudrup contributed width, Caniggia, McCann, Bud Johnston who won in Europe, Huistra, Kanchelskis with us among many others who have gave us width while we won things and not including other players who have gave width to other top teams. Silly statement.Not to mention Mark Walters & Dale Gordan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 ah so were missrepresenting your point. interesting. can i list strikers or central mids smith has played wide who have won things.The term is 'width' and not who has played wide, if the latter was the case then we'd list Lee McCulloch who only went down the line twice and when he did - whilst playing wide for Rangers - made 2 goals but other then he didn't provide width for example. Don't know enough about Wigan to comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 It doesn't have to be about Rangers... width wins things all over the world.. The best teams play with width.dont tell me. tell walter this is about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeBlue 39 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 dont tell me. tell walter this is about him.Ok. I'll give him a ring after my dinner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 The term is 'width' and not who has played wide, if the latter was the case then we'd list Lee McCulloch who only went down the line twice and when he did - whilst playing wide for Rangers - made 2 goals but other then he didn't provide width for example. Don't know enough about Wigan to comment.ah so why list wingers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,228 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I thought it has been well documented that Walter does not believe in width and never has been.Jim McLean used to ridicule him for his believes.Laudrup played in a free role in the time he was with us,Huistra totally left foted played on theright to cut inside.Any width in 9 in a row came from one full back with the other full back invariably a central defender. Durie a central striker did give a glimpse of width upfront at times but Walter tended and still does prefer to narrow the game even, against all tradition, when opponents are down to 10 men which more than proves the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I thought it has been well documented that Walter does not believe in width and never has been.Jim McLean used to ridicule him for his believes.Laudrup played in a free role in the time he was with us,Huistra totally left foted played on theright to cut inside.Any width in 9 in a row came from one full back with the other full back invariably a central defender. Durie a central striker did give a glimpse of width upfront at times but Walter tended and still does prefer to narrow the game even, against all tradition, when opponents are down to 10 men which more than proves the point.i thought so to. seems i am wrong. .very much a fan of italian football is our walter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBlue 136 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Messi and Pedro are wingers IMO.I wouldn't class them as strikers, they're both forward players but they're not out and out strikers so I'd say they're both wingers..Messi is not a wingerPedro isn't really one either - any more than Naismith is when he playing wide.The point I'm trying to make is that teams like Barcelona achieve a lot of width by using attacking players who can play in a variety of positions, plus defenders who can actually cross the ball.Apparently that doesn't work in Scotland though - whenever Smith uses players like Lafferty, Naismith, Fleck etc in wide positions he's an idiot who "doesn't like wingers" and is playing these players out of position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 very much a fan of italian football is our walter.Give me Alberto Zaccheroni now please!3-4-3, attacking but still disciplined! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Give me Alberto Zaccheroni now please!lol. i guess i boobed again with my assertion no winger has ever played in italy. this deserves its own thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BouncingBear 23 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Merged. Bicker with each other all you want but don't clog the board up with it.Fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Jelavic is a prolific headerer of the baw. The first brilliant headerer of the baw since Hateley. We'd be daft not to add width and crosses to our game now.My god thats it! thats why weiss hasent been playig n the right because jelavic has been injured and there isnt anyone else 2 cross it to to header it in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 Merged. Bicker with each other all you want but don't clog the board up with it.Confused. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon 1,743 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Confused.Gunslinger had made a thread in opposition to yours a while ago so I merged them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon 1,743 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Fuck off.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 Gunslinger had made a thread in opposition to yours a while ago so I merged them.Oh. Didn't see that. Was making my lunch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Of course "Width" is important in football, but today game has changed so much that the standard winger has become obsolete.It's all about inside forwards and overlapping fullbacks across Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 oh so he gets to take the piss out of me but i dont get the same courtousy. frankly i am pretty sure boab wants the whole lot deleted now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyboy2009 11 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Jelavic has scored 1 header since he signed and suddenly he's the best header of the ball in almost 15 years? FFS ! What about de boer? Prso? We need to drop our expectations of jela till he gets back amongst the goals. Some ppl are going overboard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Jelavic has scored 1 header since he signed and suddenly he's the best header of the ball in almost 15 years? FFS ! What about de boer? Prso? We need to drop our expectations of jela till he gets back amongst the goals. Some ppl are going overboard.i tend to agree with that. hes played six games and has aquired some legendary skills. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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