TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 It really irks me when people say 'Champions League History' as if history only started in 1992. It's the same tournament with a different format - SKY TV generation wankers.The format has changed dramatically a couple of times even within 'Champions League history'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek1872 548 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 fucking hell pal.Im not following you about the forum. Im happy for us not to communicate anymore. Me and everyone else is bored of the petty squabbling. It got old a while back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 It really irks me when people say 'Champions League History' as if history only started in 1992. It's the same tournament with a different format - SKY TV generation wankers.The format has changed dramatically a couple of times even within 'Champions League history'.Surely we should avoid terminological inexactitude?'Champions League history' did only start in 1992, or perhaps a wee bit before if you count the planning etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Surely we should avoid terminological inexactitude?'Champions League history' did only start in 1992, or perhaps a wee bit before if you count the planning etc.The trophy isn't called the Champions League, it's called the European Cup. How can people say that Liverpool have won the Champions League 5 times and then claim that no-one has ever retained it? Makes no sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 The trophy isn't called the Champions League, it's called the European Cup. How can people say that Liverpool have won the Champions League 5 times and then claim that no-one has ever retained it? Makes no sense.I admire your indefatigability.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Don't get me started on when 'Premiership history' started. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 European Champions Cup. History started in 1955. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 European Champions Cup. History started in 1955.And CL History started in 1992, glad we agree Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 And CL History started in 1992, glad we agree It didn't, the format changed slightly. It's changed within that time, dramatically so on a couple of occasions. It's the same feckin trophy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,670 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 CL history started in 1992 x Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 It didn't, the format changed slightly. It's changed within that time, dramatically so on a couple of occasions. It's the same feckin trophy.The changing format is indeed part of CL History.But the same trophy? 1955 - to the present? Are you sure? Not that it really matters..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 1955/56 was the first year, yes. The trophy now was used pre-1992 was what I meant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD.1872 890 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Same tournament, different format... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfcfraserrfc 262 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 The OP is talking absolute pish. Last season, I would say Cech, Cole, Ivanovic, Ramires & Drogba would all make the best Champions League XI. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 The OP is talking absolute pish.Last season, I would say Cech, Cole, Ivanovic, Ramires & Drogba would all make the best Champions League XI.To be fair I was clearly referencing the way they've followed the win up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfcfraserrfc 262 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 To be fair I was clearly referencing the way they've followed the win up.The squad and dynamic has massively changed though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,854 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 The squad and dynamic has massively changed though.Thy pumped over £80 million in over the summer and have lost 3 cup finals already, while getting put out the CL while teams like Celtic get through.They have been very poor in the big games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 This is a transitional season for Chelsea. A change in footballing styles and squad personnel so a few disappointing results are inevitable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 1955/56 was the first year, yes. The trophy now was used pre-1992 was what I meant.Terminological inexactitude can be avoided if we just say what we mean.Anyway it's been fun, you rarely bite at semantics Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintonGrey 365 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 This is a transitional season for Chelsea. A change in footballing styles and squad personnel so a few disappointing results are inevitable.*seasonsIt'll take at least 2 or 3 to rebuild the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 *seasonsIt'll take at least 2 or 3 to rebuild the team.Indeed. I think most Chelsea fans would be happy with a top 4 finish this season, I know I certainly would. Anything else is a bonus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Terminological inexactitude can be avoided if we just say what we mean.Anyway it's been fun, you rarely bite at semantics Nothing gets me angrier than this issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,687 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 The OP is talking absolute pish.Makes a refreshing change from your usual pish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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