Eaglesham Bear 107 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Copied from Govan Blues post can we have this pinned. As we are aware the SFL are meeting later this week to discuss reconstruction. Please post declarations below to warn them of the consequences.If this does happen, I will be suing the SFL through the small claims court. I will be claiming for all ticket costs (home and away) all petrol costs, match programmes, pies and anything else I can think of up to a limit of £3000, based on the presumption that I was financially supporting my club in order to gain promotion, as set out by the SFL at the beginning of the season.This is very easy to do - you don't even need a solicitor.http://www.advicegui...im_scotland.htmImagine if 50,000 of us did it.I declare that if reconstruction goes ahead this season I will be suing the SFL through the small claims courts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hubbard 280 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Declation................what's that.......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianb1547 3,767 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Declation................what's that..........isnt that when you try and do about 7 sports? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbblue 167 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I posted on another thread that we the fans should put the wheels in motion but maybe a joint would be best....unsure the most effective approach.I will nail my colours to the post on this one now and say I am well up for posting a claim for my accumulated losses.3 season tickets, travel costs, leisure time, food etc.As a support we need to send a message. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hubbard 280 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 isnt that when you try and do about 7 sports?shintybog snorklingpeat cuttingtottie howkinwhat's the other 3 ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I posted on another thread that we the fans should put the wheels in motion but maybe a joint would be best....unsure the most effective approach.I will nail my colours to the post on this one now and say I am well up for posting a claim for my accumulated losses.3 season tickets, travel costs, leisure time, food etc.As a support we need to send a message.I would be happy to go along with any class action type approach, but that involves lawyers, planning, time etc.I would recommend a class action as a good approach for season ticket holders (I'm not)But there's nothing to stop any individual raising their own independent small claim the moment reconstruction goes through.And as I said, if one claimant wins, then the floodgates cannot be closed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carling1873 1,405 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 shintybog snorklingpeat cuttingtottie howkinwhat's the other 3 ?Welly chuckingHaggis chasingOne more anyone? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Welly chuckingHaggis chasingOne more any one?Salmond-guddling? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoorie 1,088 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Sheep tossing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozblue 4,331 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Welly chuckingHaggis chasingOne more any one?sheep shagging Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidermansGaffer 2,552 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Dwarf throwing or Ferret Racing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 20,949 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 A class action would not be a small claim. It would be an ordinary action and require a lawyer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglesham Bear 107 Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 I posted on another thread that we the fans should put the wheels in motion but maybe a joint would be best....unsure the most effective approach.I will nail my colours to the post on this one now and say I am well up for posting a claim for my accumulated losses.3 season tickets, travel costs, leisure time, food etc.As a support we need to send a message.I picked that up from the other post which is where I copied Govan Blues post. I was hoping to get it pinned and others to nail their colours to the mast by declaring their intention to recover any money lost through the courts before their meeting later this week to decide on reconstruction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 If any league reconstruction occurs at the start of next season which renders any promotion or other prizes won by my club as null and void, in contravention of the terms and conditions as outlined at the beginning of the season, I declare that I will seek compensation through the Small Claims Courts for all ticket and travel costs incurred by me whilst supporting my team throughout this league competition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 A class action would not be a small claim. It would be an ordinary action and require a lawyer.I think my post demonstrates that I am well aware of the difference between a class action (on behalf of all season ticket holders, and ticket purchasers) and a small claim (raised by me without a lawyer)What are you saying would be an ordinary claim and require a lawyer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carling1873 1,405 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Sheep tossing.Nope this does not count; regional sport, mainly events held in Aberdeenshire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack1690 793 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 A class action would not be a small claim. It would be an ordinary action and require a lawyer.I thought, under Scots Law, anyone can represent themselves in court no matter what the case or circumstances. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I thought, under Scots Law, anyone can represent themselves in court no matter what the case or circumstances.I'm not sure what BNB is saying, or why.Bottom line is: You as an individual can raise a small claim with no requirement for a solicitor.A class action is a much more complex topic, and not what we are trying to discuss here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 from the other thread...It's advertised that the winners of the league will be promotedSFL could be prosecuted under trading standards legislationTrading Standards in West Lothian are excellent .My Wife used them to fight an incorrect mobile phone Bill from Orange they got every Penny of it back.Highly recomend them.Brilliant service. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack1690 793 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I'm not sure what BNB is saying, or why.Bottom line is: You as an individual can raise a small claim with no requirement for a solicitor.A class action is a much more complex topic, and not what we are trying to discuss here.Always thought a class action was an American thing anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 So. here's the SFL Constitution and Rules Index.The parts about promotion are on page 45.http://www.scottishfootballleague.com/docs/009__034__constitution__rules__SFL_Constitution__Rules__1346425915.pdf#page=45I'm sure there will be something in there of interest Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 20,949 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Small claims was designed for people to do it themselves, all the forms are on the Scottish Courts website.Ordinary Cause actions to give them their proper name are for amounts of over £5,000 and are commenced by an initial writ, which is set out in a certain form and usually people get lawyers to do it cause of the more complicated procedure involved.For completness, for sums between £3,000 and £5,000 you use the Summary cause procedure and some folks do it themselves while others get a lawyer.I used to do debt recovery (i hated it. Criminal law is more honest and less soul destroying.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Always thought a class action was an American thing anyway.It is really, but there are similar precedents in various EU countries.But who cares. Small Claims Court is the way. You up for it Jack? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Isn't your 'contract' (season tickets)with Rangers?You didn't pay the SFL/SPL money so surely they can't be held liable for your loss,as much as they are the problem.Don't mean to piss on people's parades but I can't see this being a goer for a number of reasons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack1690 793 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 It is really, but there are similar precedents in various EU countries.But who cares. Small Claims Court is the way. You up for it Jack?100% GB. Im no stranger to courts mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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