The Godfather 72,437 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 If you dig feel enough you can find shit on any body, especially businessmen.I bet Kroenke & Usmanov aren't angels either and that's coming from somebody who quite likes Arsenal.You don't become a billionaire like these guys without having little things in your past that raise eyebrows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 No.You made the thread, the least you could do is tell us what was said.1) Secured his money in rigged privatisation.2) Fraudulently got money.Which is bank rolling Chelsea and has helped inflate English football salaries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 If you dig feel enough you can find shit on any body, especially businessmen.I bet Kroenke & Usmanov aren't angels either and that's coming from somebody who quite likes Arsenal.Usmanov certainly, he is more dodgy than Abramovich and "richer". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 1) Secured his money in rigged privatisation.2) Fraudulently got money.Which is bank rolling Chelsea and has helped inflate English football salaries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Without the full context shocker.What is the full context in a sporting sense? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,437 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 championies ole ole ole Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Usmanov certainly, he is more dodgy than Abramovich and "richer".I must have missed your thread on him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,437 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I must have missed your thread on him.It must be coming up...Along with the other dozen chairmen in England who can be accused of the same things..But aye it's Chelsea's fault Cringe Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 Some folk are just bitter because they have won the lot tbh.English football and much of European football is full of people like RA.Its not a question of anyone being bitter is it. Why should football supporters not look out for the well being of the game itself? Is it sustainable in the long term? I find dodgy practises eventually catch up with you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I'd wager Abramovich is unlikely to be caught up with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 It must be coming up...Along with the other dozen chairmen in England who can be accused of the same things..But aye it's Chelsea's fault CringeJealousy... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 I must have missed your thread on him.Usmanov has no power at Arsenal. He can't bankroll Arsenal when it comes to signing players or wages. Why do you think he wants in and there is a huge battle going on for control over the club?Its like comparing a bike with two wheels to one with no wheels. Incomparable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 I'd wager Abramovich is unlikely to be caught up with.Perhaps but at least the truth always gets in the way of the bullshit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,437 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Its not a question of anyone being bitter is it. Why should football supporters not look out for the well being of the game itself? Is it sustainable in the long term? I find dodgy practises eventually catch up with you.It's been going on ever since TV money came into the game.Every single big club out there has benefited from this kind of thing and it's just the way it is these days. Yeah we would all rather every club got an equal chance and the 'sugar' daddies who bankroll clubs all over the world were gone but it's not going to happen.Chelsea and RA are not even the tip of the iceberg, you might want to start with Barcelona and Real Madrid who have been at it for decades. You will also find wages were inflated a long time before RA came to England too..but that was also Chelseas fault...Oh wait.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 It's been going on ever since TV money came into the game.Every single big club out there has benefited from this kind of thing and it's just the way it is these days.Yeah we would all rather every club got an equal chance and the 'sugar' daddies who bankroll clubs all over the world were gone but it's not going to happen.Chelsea and RA are not even the tip of the iceberg, you might want to start with Barcelona and Real Madrid who have been at it for decades.You will also find wages were inflated a long time before RA came to England too..but that was also Chelseas fault...Oh wait.. We know there is a lot of people in football who are dodgy. The point was Skysports trying to celebrate Abramovich without the full context which the journalist got in thankfully.Truth be known, Arsenal could very well be controlled by Usmanov in the not so distant future, so anyone having a pop at Arsenal are off the mark with that. If anything, Usmanov would spend double what Abramovich has done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 We know there is a lot of people in football who are dodgy. The point was Skysports trying to celebrate Abramovich without the full context which the journalist got in thankfully.Truth be known, Arsenal could very well be controlled by Usmanov in the not so distant future, so anyone having a pop at Arsenal are off the mark with that. If anything, Usmanov would spend double what Abramovich has done.Sky Sports are looking at his contribution to Chelsea and english football, not anything else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,298 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydebankBearWATP 877 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 The usual Arsenal shite at the start of this thread. Surprise.Have all the Sugar Daddies you want Arsenal have done things the right way and when they win something it will be even better for the diehard fans and and for people like me it will be a good arguing point on here that they have won something and they have done it the right way Having a rich guy buy the club and plough billions in will always lead to success. Arsenal have built the club from nothing basically to one of the richest clubs in the world with a massive fanbase, stadium, facilities and good squad all with their own money.Infact there was an article the other day about how in 1973 they had £1,730 cash in the bank and in 2013 it was £150,000,000 in the bank. What Arsenal have done recently has been nothing short of a miracle and im glad their doing it this way. Shove yer oligarch owners up yer arse Unless you want to buy Rangers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydebankBearWATP 877 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Tony You could just see he wasnt on the same intellectual level as The Times writer Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 The usual Arsenal shite at the start of this thread. Surprise.Have all the Sugar Daddies you want Arsenal have done things the right way and when they win something it will be even better for the diehard fans and and for people like me it will be a good arguing point on here that they have won something and they have done it the right way Having a rich guy buy the club and plough billions in will always lead to success. Arsenal have built the club from nothing basically to one of the richest clubs in the world with a massive fanbase, stadium, facilities and good squad all with their own money.Infact there was an article the other day about how in 1973 they had £1,730 cash in the bank and in 2013 it was £150,000,000 in the bank. What Arsenal have done recently has been nothing short of a miracle and im glad their doing it this way. Shove yer oligarch owners up yer arse Unless you want to buy Rangers Football's about winning, not having a nice balance sheet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 How is he a fraud?Arsenal. :lol:Your kidding right?He can't even go back to his own country because he has bumped millions of his mates and Vladimir Putin.And a few of his mates are in the jail because of him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydebankBearWATP 877 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Football's about winning, not having a nice balance sheet.No doubt about it. Arsenal haven't done that recently due to them having to build the club gradually with their own resources. But now Arsenal are coming past that point and will be able to compete with other clubs on their own merit and it will be from their own money. They will win something again and it will be all the sweeter for Arsenal fans Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,437 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Football's about winning, not having a nice balance sheet.All the talks of plans and what teams might do mean hee haw when the same happens every single season.Chelsea have grew as a club and a brand at an incredible rate thanks to Roman and his people. They have left Arsenal behind clutching at the dust so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 :lol:Your kidding right?He can't even go back to his own country because he has bumped millions of his mates and Vladimir Putin.And a few of his mates are in the jail because of him.I've not seen anything about that.Not saying it's not true just havent seen it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I've not seen anything about that.Not saying it's not true just havent seen it.Mon the gunners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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