Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Just a thought that if they saw the light and decided to give up the ghost...........what would replace them?Would anything rise from their tainted ashes or would we just happily plod along.Serious thread btw and thought it would be topical. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Who would hold the proxy for all the shares? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue68 2,497 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Ed would get rather bored Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 Ed would get rather bored One thing that has never visited my life Bud is boredom Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue68 2,497 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 One thing that has never visited my life Bud is boredom A wee bit of mischief there from me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 No doubt there would be many more handwringing, selfish, self preservation, dignified silence craving arseholes to step in where they left off.If there's demand, people will create the supply. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I guessed who made this thread from just the title. What do I win? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 We would all join hands, sing Kumbya My Lord and live happily ever after. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 A wee bit of mischief there from me. Mischief is good Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 I guessed who made this thread from just the title. What do I win?A meal with bearger Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pewpew 16 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 There would just be a crap load of smaller groups each trying to recruit the ex RST members and after a few years a few would still be going with the rest folding then another few years down the line all but 1 or 2 would have folded and we would be back to where we started with a trust only with a diff name and leader but more than likely holding the same opinions as the present 1. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wullyRFC 5,230 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 The same thing if they didn't.. fuck all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 A meal with beargerIf he's the main course, that is a let down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I think the op has been bumped by the RST in the past. The only thing i can think of for his obsession with them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 If he's the main course, that is a let down.Worse than that, he'll keep coming back on you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Worse than that, he'll keep coming back on you.Not when I wear my union jack morph suit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 I think the op has been bumped by the RST in the past. The only thing i can think of for his obsession with them.I think the op has been bumped by the RST in the past. The only thing i can think of for his obsession with them.You are truly shit at reading a situation bud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StornowayBlue 632 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 As you are trying to be serious. I expect there will always be a section of fans that want the same goals that the RST do. In answer to the OP, yes, something would rise from the ashes. However, imo, regardless of whoever is running the show, they will encounter the same attitudes that the RST currently face.I think waiting on the RST to disband is counter productive. They've been going now for 10yrs? when imo they haven't had anything really to do. The time we needed a Fans organisation we could all trust was when the club was up for grabs at the princely sum of 5.5M. I admit I was shocked at the figure at the time - less than fans have pumped into the club in terms of ST's year on year. An opportunity has been missed. That said, there still remains a chance for us to get onto the Club's board. Why can't fans join and take over the RST in a democratic fashion. Oust who they don't like, empower who they do. It's clear that many do not trust MD. He's had his crack at it in any case and appears to have a negative impact on membership numbers. Folk can bitch and moan all they want but unless they are prepared to get in the mix and rebuild the Trust from the inside out, they are wasting their breath. The vehicle is there, lets not rip it to pieces and start over. Give it a new lease of life, driver and pit crew. ALL democratically voted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamibianBear 1,853 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 As you are trying to be serious. I expect there will always be a section of fans that want the same goals that the RST do. In answer to the OP, yes, something would rise from the ashes. However, imo, regardless of whoever is running the show, they will encounter the same attitudes that the RST currently face.I think waiting on the RST to disband is counter productive. They've been going now for 10yrs? when imo they haven't had anything really to do. The time we needed a Fans organisation we could all trust was when the club was up for grabs at the princely sum of 5.5M. I admit I was shocked at the figure at the time - less than fans have pumped into the club in terms of ST's year on year. An opportunity has been missed. That said, there still remains a chance for us to get onto the Club's board. Why can't fans join and take over the RST in a democratic fashion. Oust who they don't like, empower who they do. It's clear that many do not trust MD. He's had his crack at it in any case and appears to have a negative impact on membership numbers. Folk can bitch and moan all they want but unless they are prepared to get in the mix and rebuild the Trust from the inside out, they are wasting their breath. The vehicle is there, lets not rip it to pieces and start over. Give it a new lease of life, driver and pit crew. ALL democratically voted.See my "question campaign" in the other RST thread. We can get this idea of the ground with the right kind of attitudes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 As you are trying to be serious. I expect there will always be a section of fans that want the same goals that the RST do. In answer to the OP, yes, something would rise from the ashes. However, imo, regardless of whoever is running the show, they will encounter the same attitudes that the RST currently face.I think waiting on the RST to disband is counter productive. They've been going now for 10yrs? when imo they haven't had anything really to do. The time we needed a Fans organisation we could all trust was when the club was up for grabs at the princely sum of 5.5M. I admit I was shocked at the figure at the time - less than fans have pumped into the club in terms of ST's year on year. An opportunity has been missed. That said, there still remains a chance for us to get onto the Club's board. Why can't fans join and take over the RST in a democratic fashion. Oust who they don't like, empower who they do. It's clear that many do not trust MD. He's had his crack at it in any case and appears to have a negative impact on membership numbers. Folk can bitch and moan all they want but unless they are prepared to get in the mix and rebuild the Trust from the inside out, they are wasting their breath. The vehicle is there, lets not rip it to pieces and start over. Give it a new lease of life, driver and pit crew. ALL democratically voted.The £5.5m would not have meant the rst would have taken control of the Club, they would also have to show the business plan and funds to see the running of the club.Look at the hearts equivalent, they are saying we have pledges over the next three years................smacks of mini murray saying if we reach CL 1/4 final you will get more money at that time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEARGER 339 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 As you are trying to be serious. I expect there will always be a section of fans that want the same goals that the RST do. In answer to the OP, yes, something would rise from the ashes. However, imo, regardless of whoever is running the show, they will encounter the same attitudes that the RST currently face.I think waiting on the RST to disband is counter productive. They've been going now for 10yrs? when imo they haven't had anything really to do. The time we needed a Fans organisation we could all trust was when the club was up for grabs at the princely sum of 5.5M. I admit I was shocked at the figure at the time - less than fans have pumped into the club in terms of ST's year on year. An opportunity has been missed. That said, there still remains a chance for us to get onto the Club's board. Why can't fans join and take over the RST in a democratic fashion. Oust who they don't like, empower who they do. It's clear that many do not trust MD. He's had his crack at it in any case and appears to have a negative impact on membership numbers. Folk can bitch and moan all they want but unless they are prepared to get in the mix and rebuild the Trust from the inside out, they are wasting their breath. The vehicle is there, lets not rip it to pieces and start over. Give it a new lease of life, driver and pit crew. ALL democratically voted.You have hit the nail squarely on the head, if you are in favour of fans representation then join the Trust and change it from within. If you look at all the RST threads that appear on RM the same six or so posters come on and attack and criticise at every opportunity. These posters are against the very notion of fans representation. No matter what is said they just come back with the same stuff over and over again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 If they did I don't think anything would really happen, apart from possibly a couple of the ex board members try to set up a new band of merry men.I think the RST has had its time and needs to be stripped from top to bottom if it is going to get anywhere near its goal of board representation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury 256 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I think the op has been bumped by the RST in the past. The only thing i can think of for his obsession with them.You are not the first person to mention this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StornowayBlue 632 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 The £5.5m would not have meant the rst would have taken control of the Club, they would also have to show the business plan and funds to see the running of the club.Look at the hearts equivalent, they are saying we have pledges over the next three years................smacks of mini murray saying if we reach CL 1/4 final you will get more money at that time.I seen that in General Sports ED and was going to make the same comment. Greens consortium was based on an IPO going forward. Fans could have generated 7M (same as ST income )if it had been gone around in the right manner. You have hit the nail squarely on the head, if you are in favour of fans representation then join the Trust and change it from within. If you look at all the RST threads that appear on RM the same six or so posters come on and attack and criticise at every opportunity. These posters are against the very notion of fans representation. No matter what is said they just come back with the same stuff over and over again.I have joined - Just. I know it's the same posters that ask the questions and they are entitled to that but in a gentlemanly manner, however I do not think any fan is against fan representation as a model. We all want our club to be successful. I say pay your money and makes your choice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 You are not the first person to mention this.Thought you had fucked off for the night can't even keep to your word on that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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