JamieD 19,271 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/03/erik-hagen-zenit-saint-petersburg-match-fixing?CMP=twt_gu... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,011 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 So thats a European cup and a uefa cup we've been bumped out ofFuck it im claiming them now in the name of our great club Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Interesting, we lost fair and square on the night though so I can't really get worked up about it on that level Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Surely we can't have been screwed out of 2 European trophies? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 19,271 Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 So thats a European cup and a uefa cup we've been bumped out ofFuck it im claiming them now in the name of our great clubI remember explaining the Marseille stuff to an English guy and he was like "ahh, don't be naive, I'm sure your guys were fixing matches and taking performance-enhancing drugs too" and I was like "I think before we felt we had to resort to paying refs and giving our players PEDS we would probably have, you know, fixed their diets and sent them to AA meetings first, and seen if there was a performance boost" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 19,271 Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 Interesting, we lost fair and square on the night though so I can't really get worked up about it on that levelOf course, but there's a case to be argued that if they fixed a match during the competition (and it's not clear when this guy is saying it happened - if it only happened once) they had no right to be in the final in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirheadbear 1,483 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Still think that Vladikavkaz game over there was dodgy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 75,116 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 We should demand a replay..I'm sure the Manchester police would be up for it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Of course, but there's a case to be argued that if they fixed a match during the competition (and it's not clear when this guy is saying it happened - if it only happened once) they had no right to be in the final in the first place.Aye I get that and would like to know, but if it gets into talk about us being awarded the trophy etc i'm not interested, just wouldn't feel anything like the same Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,663 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Aye I get that and would like to know, but if it gets into talk about us being awarded the trophy etc i'm not interested, just wouldn't feel anything like the sameNot the same but of course you'd take it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 19,271 Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 Aye I get that and would like to know, but if it gets into talk about us being awarded the trophy etc i'm not interested, just wouldn't feel anything like the sameOh, me neither, that's just daft. I'd have no issues with them being stripped of the trophy though. It's incredible that Marseille weren't, considered they were relegated from the league and banned from Europe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Oh, me neither, that's just daft. I'd have no issues with them being stripped of the trophy though. It's incredible that Marseille weren't, considered they were relegated from the league and banned from Europe.Yep agreed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Not the same but of course you'd take it.Honestly don't think I would, not that it would be up to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 19,271 Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 Not the same but of course you'd take it.I'd rather not. What's the point? We never had the joy of winning it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I'd rather not. What's the point? We never had the joy of winning it.That's why I found the tarriers wanting titles of ours awarded to them so pathetic Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,663 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Ehhh cos we'd be deserving of it? I wouldn't be starting any campaigns for us to get it, but if UEFA ruled that Zenit cheated and kicked them out the competition, awarding us the title, we aren't turning it down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Trophies are won on the pitch, Zenit might deserve to be stripped of it but I don't see how we'd deserve to be handed it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,663 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 If a team has cheated and are thus disqualified it should be whoever was in second place who takes it. That's how competition works. I'm not desperate for us to get it, as it wouldn't be the same, but there's not a chance the club would go against UEFA's decision if they decided we should get it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 If a team has cheated and are thus disqualified it should be whoever was in second place who takes it. That's how competition works. I'm not desperate for us to get it, as it wouldn't be the same, but there's not a chance the club would go against UEFA's decision if they decided we should get it.If I remember right Inter didn't get awarded one of the Serie A titles stripped from Juventus? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,663 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 If I remember right Inter didn't get awarded one of the Serie A titles stripped from Juventus?No idea. That's not the point I'm making though really.I'm saying that if Zenit are disqualified, and IF UEFA ruled us the winners, I wouldn't be complaining. Are you saying you'd actively be against such a decision? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilstonloyal 186 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 If zenit got stripped of the win would we be awarded it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 We didnt deserve to win it that night. Id play a replay against the 3rd place team, but wouldnt want to just take the trophy. Id never claim we won it anyway if that were the case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 No idea. That's not the point I'm making though really.I'm saying that if Zenit are disqualified, and IF UEFA ruled us the winners, I wouldn't be complaining.Are you saying you'd actively be against such a decision?Depends what you mean by actively, I wouldn't be starting a campaign or losing any sleep over it, but i'd personally rather we didn't accept a title under those circumstances. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,663 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 So you would be against it then? Fair enough Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 19,106 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 We were honking in the final. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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