Previous Rangers striker statistics.

[beararse 6,885]

1 hour ago, Broxi said:

It's not cherry picking. If we're trying to argue that Dessers is good enough by comparing to previous strikers then we should be comparing him to a standard which is actually considered to be good enough to be our main striker, which universally Morelos' last couple seasons weren't, so it's not achieving anything to compare to Morelos when Morelos was shit for us.

Are we missing the point where I also said Dessers has had 3 good season out of 11? So you've picked one of those good ones, great. 

Why not phrase the question like this and put it back to you then, would you pick Dessers up front over any of the other strikers you named when they were at their peaks for us?

No. I wouldn’t on current form. I’ve said I wouldn’t in the original,post. 

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Quality finish against hibs.

He's been nowhere near good enough but i wouldn't right him off yet.

[beararse 6,885]

2 hours ago, KeyserSoze said:

He scored a third of his career total goals with Breda. In the second division.  
 

argument lost imo

 

since when did 29 become 1/3 of 115?

and it was in the Dutch first division (ie the one below the Ervidersie just as practically every major league classifies their tables.)

 

[beararse 6,885]

1 hour ago, Roy Hobbs said:

Why has he played less football despite being older? Injury problems or not fancied by managers at the 8 clubs he's been at? Him having played that much less is not in any way mitigating his lack of goals.

Only you compare averages. Good strikers are judged on the number of goals they score. The golden boot doesn't get awarded to the best goals per 90 minute striker.

So if we judge strikers by the number of goals scored, was Dado Prso a good striker? He only scored 92 goals in his entire professional career and 4 of them were in single game. He scored a Rangers goal every 252 mins 

[beararse 6,885]

1 hour ago, BlueSuedeSambas said:

If you compare all the players listed in the OP’s goals to minutes ratio for Rangers (which isn’t fair in itself because Dessers sample size is the smallest) then, to the surprise of nobody, Dessers has the worst.

Just proves what I always say, stats can pretty much be skewed however you want them to be to suit whatever narrative it is you are trying to push.

Not true: Dado Prso who was a goal every 252 mins at Rangers!

EDIT: you’re right, Dessers is 254 at Rangers. 

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3 minutes ago, beararse said:

Not true: Dado Prso who was a goal every 252 mins at Rangers!

And Dessers has a goal every 254 minutes. 

[beararse 6,885]

1 minute ago, BlueSuedeSambas said:

And Dessers has a goal every 254 minutes. 

Yep, just edited my post as I realised it made a miscalculation (seconds before you posted)

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3 minutes ago, beararse said:

So if we judge strikers by the number of goals scored, was Dado Prso a good striker? He only scored 92 goals in his entire professional career and 4 of them were in single game. He scored a Rangers goal every 334 mins 

Prso offered so much more than goals and generally played up front with a partner during a period where 442 was still the norm. He had a fairly mediocre career until he hit his late 20s as well. He also had a fairly mediocre 2nd and 3rd season with us but is just remembered fondly.

He scored 118 career goals.

[beararse 6,885]

4 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said:

Prso offered so much more than goals and generally played up front with a partner during a period where 442 was still the norm. He had a fairly mediocre career until he hit his late 20s as well. He also had a fairly mediocre 2nd and 3rd season with us but is just remembered fondly.

He scored 118 career goals.

That’s not his goals tally (ie excluding 9 international goals) on Transfermarkt.  It’s noted as 94.

I did have a disclaimer that the figures were subject to Transfermarkt’s accuracy in the OP.

[beararse 6,885]

16 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said:

Prso offered so much more than goals and generally played up front with a partner during a period where 442 was still the norm. He had a fairly mediocre career until he hit his late 20s as well. He also had a fairly mediocre 2nd and 3rd season with us but is just remembered fondly.

He scored 118 career goals.

So if Dessers contributes more to the team, plays up front with a partner in a 442 and maintains his current scoring rate  (which is a currently  just a bawhair shy or Prso’s o/all record at Rangers with Dessers playing  in a shit team under a shit manager ) will be be remembered fondly?

 

[.Williamson. 87,246]

He’s absolute dog shite, that’s just it in a nutshell 

[Roy Hobbs 2,934]

11 minutes ago, beararse said:

That’s not his goals tally (ie excluding 9 international goals) on Transfermarkt.  It’s noted as 94.

I did have a disclaimer that the figures were subject to Transfermarkt’s accuracy in the OP.

He scored 2 in Croatia, 75 in France and 37 in Scotland. He also scored 9 international goals.

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8 minutes ago, beararse said:

So if Dessers contributes more to the team, plays up front with a partner in a 442 and maintains his current scoring rate  (which is a currently  just a bawhair shy or Prso’s o/all record at Rangers with Dessers playing  in a shit team under a shit manager ) will be be remembered fondly?

 

If he scores 21 goals in a league and cup winning season I imagine he'll be remembered fondly aye.

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Boyd, Miller and Morelos have more goals for Rangers than Dessers has for every club he's played for combined.

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Just now, The Specky Forum Organiser said:

Boyd, Miller and Morelos have more goals for Rangers than Dessers has for every club he's played for combined.

Never mind that Tav has more. Dessers numbers are that of a centre back and I wouldn’t be surprised to hear Goldson has near as many in his career 

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1 hour ago, Benidormbear said:

We said the same thing about McCoist and Hately. But, back then we had a bit more patience. Give the lad time and then judge him.

We’re about to go into November and he’s shown absolutely nothing good bar that pass against psv for matondo. Can’t hold a ball up, don’t remember him winning most of his aerial battles, doesn’t score much, is shite at pressing - wtf does he actually do?

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What is the point of this thread? 

[.Williamson. 87,246]

2 hours ago, Benidormbear said:

We said the same thing about McCoist and Hately. But, back then we had a bit more patience. Give the lad time and then judge him.

Doesn’t even deserve a proper response 

[DeanMK 5,242]

Those stats are a bit dubious mate. Are you sure they're accurate? Did you obtain the minutes played for each player or have you just multiplied their games played by 90 minutes, because if that's the case then you wouldn't have accounted for sub appearances.

[beararse 6,885]

2 minutes ago, The Specky Forum Organiser said:

Boyd, Miller and Morelos have more goals for Rangers than Dessers has for every club he's played for combined.

Totally irrelevant. Of course they have.

Morelos alone has played more minutes for Rangers than Dessers has in his entire career (18,885 mins v’s 16,307mins)

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1 minute ago, beararse said:

Totally irrelevant. Of course they have.

Morelos alone has played more minutes for Rangers than Dessers has in his entire career (18,885 mins v’s 16,307mins)

Really curious to know how you've decided what's relevant and what isn't when it comes to Dessers?

Anything that suits your narrative is relevant, anything that doesn't suit your narrative is irrelevant? Seems that way.

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Took his goal when on Saturday. Was it just my imagination, or did he also look a bit more trim? Looked to me like he'd been putting in the hard yards over the international break.

Hopefully he's getting his mojo back. Not writing him off just yet.

[beararse 6,885]

28 minutes ago, .Williamson. said:

He’s absolute dog shite, that’s just it in a nutshell 

He’s a prolific dog shite then :)

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2 minutes ago, beararse said:

He’s a prolific dog shite then :)

Agree 

Consistently dog shite