Blue Nosed Babe 21,400 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 Awwwwwww Amber Rutter with her wee baby...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 15,325 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 Just now, Blue Nosed Babe said: I would have to agree. Lack of transparency muddies waters and leads to suspicion but the bottom line is if you are not competing cleanly you are out sin die unless there are VERY exceptional circumstances. It was suggested that even if you were spiked or ate contaminated food unwittingly (and can prove it) then you should still be sanctioned but maybe not banned as the advantage was still there. The difficulty is proving that you've been unwittingly spiked or contamimated. It's a horrible scenario tbh as we could be banning someone who just didn't have a clue what was happening. If it is a natural bi-product of the meat being ingested then as you say, a sanction or temporary ban would suffice. I just don't get why you would train most of your adult life to then throw it away by trying to gain an unfair advantage. The Olympic committee seem to be pretty lax this year on a few areas of concern Blue Nosed Babe 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 19,992 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 17 minutes ago, Blue Nosed Babe said: Adam Peaty's comments about Chinese swimmers (well 2 of them)....thoughts? I never knew meat could be contaminated with banned drugs. I have learned my new thing today (after my Japanese) The cyclist Alberto Contador claimed that his positive test for clenbuterol was due to contaminated beef. The court of arbitration didn't buy it. Lost his Tour de France title. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 21,400 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 1 minute ago, JamieD said: The cyclist Alberto Contador claimed that his positive test for clenbuterol was due to contaminated beef. The court of arbitration didn't buy it. Lost his Tour de France title. And yet the authorities bought the Chinese claim.....that is strange. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 21,400 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 5 minutes ago, Negri's lovechild said: The difficulty is proving that you've been unwittingly spiked or contamimated. It's a horrible scenario tbh as we could be banning someone who just didn't have a clue what was happening. If it is a natural bi-product of the meat being ingested then as you say, a sanction or temporary ban would suffice. I just don't get why you would train most of your adult life to then throw it away by trying to gain an unfair advantage. The Olympic committee seem to be pretty lax this year on a few areas of concern They sure are and are happy to screw over athletes in the process. Negri's lovechild 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,858 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 The whole meat thing has popped up quite a lot over the years. Shelby Houlihan (athlete) tested positive for Nandrolone and tried to blame pork from a Burrito van as the cause, but she was banned. More recent Erriyon Knighton (fastest ever teenager over 200m) tested positive for Trenbolone and again blamed contaminated beef and was subsequently cleared and will be competing in these Olympics. If I was an American athlete I would not be going near meat from these sort of places. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 21,400 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 2 minutes ago, TheKingObv said: The whole meat thing has popped up quite a lot over the years. Shelby Houlihan (athlete) tested positive for Nandrolone and tried to blame pork from a Burrito van as the cause, but she was banned. More recent Erriyon Knighton (fastest ever teenager over 200m) tested positive for Trenbolone and again blamed contaminated beef and was subsequently cleared and will be competing in these Olympics. If I was an American athlete I would not be going near meat from these sort of places. It begs the question what the fuck are they either putting in the meat or feeding the animals.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 15,325 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 1 minute ago, TheKingObv said: The whole meat thing has popped up quite a lot over the years. Shelby Houlihan (athlete) tested positive for Nandrolone and tried to blame pork from a Burrito van as the cause, but she was banned. More recent Erriyon Knighton (fastest ever teenager over 200m) tested positive for Trenbolone and again blamed contaminated beef and was subsequently cleared and will be competing in these Olympics. It's consistency in decision making from the authorities on one hand, but... If it's apparently beef products that contain or can contain these banned substances, wouldn't you just steer clear? I know beef contains a lot of important minerals, but you'd surely just not take the risk as an athelete? Blue Nosed Babe 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,858 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 2 minutes ago, Blue Nosed Babe said: It begs the question what the fuck are they either putting in the meat or feeding the animals.... I'm far from an expert but I think meat in the USA is regulated way less than somewhere like the UK. Blue Nosed Babe 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,858 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 2 minutes ago, Negri's lovechild said: It's consistency in decision making from the authorities on one hand, but... If it's apparently beef products that contain or can contain these banned substances, wouldn't you just steer clear? I know beef contains a lot of important minerals, but you'd surely just not take the risk as an athelete? Indeed. Seems like a fairly straightforward solution to me. Negri's lovechild 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 21,400 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 10 minutes ago, TheKingObv said: Indeed. Seems like a fairly straightforward solution to me. I believe ostritch is similar in containing the good stuff but is healthier than beef. Tastes good too. Negri's lovechild 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 19,992 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 23 minutes ago, Blue Nosed Babe said: It begs the question what the fuck are they either putting in the meat or feeding the animals.... Tren is used by livestock farmers in some places in the same way it's used by bodybuilders - to put more meat on the animal. Blue Nosed Babe 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Birkin 9,984 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 5 hours ago, Blue Nosed Babe said: I believe ostritch is similar in containing the good stuff but is healthier than beef. Tastes good too. i regularly eat ostrich, kangaroo and zebra they have zero fat and are delicious Blue Nosed Babe 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Birkin 9,984 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 this shouldnt be allowed if true Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 21,400 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 8 minutes ago, Rowley Birkin said: this shouldnt be allowed if true All this shit makes you wonder what the point of the Olympics is when countries try to find loopholes or just outright cheat and the IOC does nothing. At least the Commonwealth Games has integrity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 31,966 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 44 minutes ago, Rowley Birkin said: this shouldnt be allowed if true Im quite pro-Israeli but this video is a load of nonsense. There's a big Palestinian diaspora across the world and they aren't the first team to call up people who are born overseas from that diaspora. Most of the good African countries have football teams full of players born and raised in France. Talking about people born in refugee camps in Syria as not Palestinian is a bit of a nonsense. There are generations of Palestinians born in refugee camps, some of them are actually like mini cities, and they aren't often entitled to citizenship of the places they live in. Don't see how any of this is different to someone like Zola Budd or Chris Froome competing for Britain at the Olympics. J-Maestro and blaudrup 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 21,400 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 GB new world record in cycling sprint. Mon the Women!!!!!! And this is the qualifying Hadron Collider 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaudrup 6,132 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 12 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said: Im quite pro-Israeli but this video is a load of nonsense. There's a big Palestinian diaspora across the world and they aren't the first team to call up people who are born overseas from that diaspora. Most of the good African countries have football teams full of players born and raised in France. Talking about people born in refugee camps in Syria as not Palestinian is a bit of a nonsense. There are generations of Palestinians born in refugee camps, some of them are actually like mini cities, and they aren't entitled to citizenship of the places they live in. Don't see how any of this is different to someone like Zola Budd or Chris Froome competing for Britain at the Olympics. You're right, the YouTube guy is an absolute cock. He's laughing about Chile, but Santiago literally has a football team in the top league Club Deportivo Palestino from the diaspora, it's not nearly as unlikely as he thinks. McEwan's Lager, Blue Nosed Babe and J-Maestro 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 32,283 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 30 minutes ago, Rowley Birkin said: i regularly eat ostrich, kangaroo and zebra they have zero fat and are delicious I bet you can run and jump like fuck mate! Rowley Birkin and VERITAS VOS LIBREBETS 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 31,966 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 5 minutes ago, blaudrup said: You're right, the YouTube guy is an absolute cock. He's laughing about Chile, but Santiago literally has a football team in the top league Club Deportivo Palestino from the diaspora, it's not nearly as unlikely as he thinks. I've had a quick look, they don't have many athletes so it took me about five minutes, and all of them are either born in Palestine or have parents that are Palestinian. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 18,051 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 Women's GB Hockey team must have been watching Rangers.....boring as fuck Blue Nosed Babe 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somemightsay7 3,088 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 Just now, LegendofCoop said: Women's GB Hockey team must have been watching Rangers.....boring as fuck They just scored, so they've done one thing we haven't. Blue Nosed Babe and LegendofCoop 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 18,051 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 1 minute ago, LegendofCoop said: Women's GB Hockey team must have been watching Rangers.....boring as fuck Just as they equalise Somemightsay7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 18,051 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 Just now, Somemightsay7 said: They just scored, so they've done one thing we haven't. Fucked that up, didn't I Blue Nosed Babe and Somemightsay7 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 21,400 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 Bloody Germans just took our World Record......fuckers. Now New Zeland have it, this is mental. We have taken it back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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