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What a learning experience Ally has had.


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#61 JCDBigBear

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 06:19 PM

View Postgogzy, on 08 April 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

He should get another season imo.

For everyone saying he is tactically shit, he has recently tried a new formation (3 at the back).  Afaik he is one of the only managers in scotland with the balls to play this way. And it is working fwiw.

Another thing, he has had the measure of celtic all season which IMO is a huge thing and shows he is not as inept as some believe.

Started off with 3 at the back yesterday and it was a shambles which he soon had to change.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 06:52 PM

View PostJCDBigBear, on 08 April 2012 - 06:19 PM, said:

Started off with 3 at the back yesterday and it was a shambles which he soon had to change.
I missed the first 30 mins of the game, it has worked most weeks IMO.    I did not notice the change to 4 at the back tbh.      And the fact that he seen it was not working and changed it.... And we won, surley gives him even more credit?

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 06:55 PM

Whenever he have played 3-5-2 we have been terrible, I wish mccoist would stop trying that shite formation. We know what works for us at rangers, stick with it

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 06:58 PM

View PostYata, on 08 April 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

Whenever he have played 3-5-2 we have been terrible, I wish mccoist would stop trying that shite formation. We know what works for us at rangers, stick with it
Have we not won pretty much every time we have played that formation?

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 07:02 PM

3 at the back?, squeezing papac in as an extra CD or moving him into CM,
I'm too binned the now to look up stats with our starting line up and end line up but whenever we've set out like the 'old celtic formation' of 3-5-2 we've normally played like shit and had to change the formation pretty quickly (see the last old firm). I think if you asked most people on here they would say our best formation is they would say its 4-2-3-1 or some variation thereof.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 07:15 PM

Lol i didint say it was our best formatiion mate.

But i am just pointing out that Ally is noit as one dimensional as sone people on here make out.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 07:23 PM

I think the stupid 3-5-2 celtic lite formation has came from Kenny McDowall not mccoist

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:16 PM

He's made mistakes like every manager does.

Most recently, his tactics that are so often brought into question enabled half a Rangers team to outplay "the champions" of this league.

Over time he seems to be relaxing into the role as manager. Using a 3-5-2 formation against celtic was bold, a move I never thought I would see and when turned sour he had the balls to change it.

I believe he is good enough to be our manager, for next season at least.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:51 PM

View Postgogzy, on 08 April 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

I missed the first 30 mins of the game, it has worked most weeks IMO.    I did not notice the change to 4 at the back tbh.      And the fact that he seen it was not working and changed it.... And we won, surley gives him even more credit?

That 3 at the back formation has never worked under Ally. Sadly, there are just too many tactical mistakes.  Managing Rangers is not the place to experiment or cut your management teeth.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 12:37 AM

i have changed my view on ally especially aftrer watching man city today all that money
I honestly believe we could beat them with what we have they have no heart or fight
and their non existent  fans unbelievable non sound at the emirates in a game going for a league title .


We are in the worst period and lucky that we have a club legend as our manager
The legends game on its own showed the respect our manager has in football
and no surprise he was on the pitch for miniutes and scored the winner.

We were excellent first half of the season naismith was our scorer and best player
you cannot dismiss how much a loss it proved and then the off going issues - club survival
in truth if you win a league title from that even the late bill struth would be happy.

I,m glad we have ALLY as a fan and a player and our manager
He deserves all the luck and everything that he deserves coming to him
Even with Celtic obtaining an Spl title played at Ibrox lost twice
and at their effort of a ground lee wallace scored yet they won due to the establishment being on holiday ?

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 01:02 AM

Still not sure.

Hopefully

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 03:36 AM

I would rather bring in someone different, I don't think his performance as manager was up to scratch this season.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 06:27 AM

View Postdalton, on 09 April 2012 - 12:37 AM, said:

We were excellent first half of the season

What games are you referring to?

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 06:44 AM

During what has been a truly horrendous time, Ally has been immense. Dignified in the face of a hostile and unsympathic press and cheerful in the face of adversity.

Yes, there are doubts about his tactical awareness and his general managerial ability, but I suspect that many faced with the same trials would be in the same position.

He undoubtedly deserves another year.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 06:49 AM

View PostJCDBigBear, on 08 April 2012 - 09:51 PM, said:

That 3 at the back formation has never worked under Ally. Sadly, there are just too many tactical mistakes.  Managing Rangers is not the place to experiment or cut your management teeth.

Yes it did, try the last old firm mate!

"Hi Ally, thanks for staying with us throughout all of this, you truly are what Rangers is about. However, even though you were here during one of the hardest seasons ever as a Ranger, you didn't win the league and made some mistakes. Yes, you gave had the measure of Celtic so far but it doesnt matter. Yes there were some glimpses of how you can get this team to play but no, sorry, we are too impatient to see how you have improved for next season. Sorry Ally but can you clean out your desk please."

Absolutely ludicrous imo that anyone wants Ally gone. He WILL have learnt a hell of a lot from this season, and he WILL win us the league the next one.

Afford the man some patience. If he was that dire a manager we would not be sitting second.

If people think that second is still not good enough after everything this season, then maybe they need to stop and think again. Walter Smith managing to achieve 3IAR is nothing short of miraculous.

And also, where did Walter cut his management teeth? Look how well that worked out for us.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 08:29 AM

He was never going to come in and be an amazing success in his first season IMO. Yes, had we not had the financial problems that we have, I would of expected him to win the league - but that's not realistic in our position.

He's has dealt with this turmoil with the utmost dignity and class and with a natural goal scorer I think he has the potential to win our trophy back next season.  

So yes, I believe he deserves at least next season to prove himself as a Rangers manager.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 09:00 AM

Will all these people saying give him next season still be saying that if we have a poor start to the season and are toiling by November/December again?

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 09:07 AM

Almost stuffed it up against 9 tainted champions, 2 wonder saves by Greegs preserve the 2 goal margin against 10 man St Midden, despite winning 3 penalties.
Glad we're back to winning ways, frankly it's pretty shambolic stuff.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 09:32 AM

Supporters tactical analysis on management with the benefit of hindsight and - all too often - a copy of FM.

:lol:

Cracks me up!

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 09:47 AM

View PostMosesMcNeil, on 09 April 2012 - 09:32 AM, said:

Supporters tactical analysis on management with the benefit of hindsight and - all too often - a copy of FM.

:lol:

Cracks me up!

You must be one of the only Bears who has never discussed the pros and cons of a manager, and where he could improve.