Club 1872 statement on Pedro

[Young Bob 1,360]

5 minutes ago, 55Bear said:

Good statement, but pointless if it's only our fans that get to see it. This needs to be put out in the mainstream media and backed 100% by the club

They have managed to get it in the Sun. SVL was set up to do the clubs work for them. My impression is its backed by the club otherwise it wouldnt see the light of day. If that is not the case then SVL should be attacking the club too.

[Ace 3,556]

4 minutes ago, Young Bob said:

They have managed to get it in the Sun. SVL was set up to do the clubs work for them. My impression is its backed by the club otherwise it wouldnt see the light of day. If that is not the case then SVL should be attacking the club too.

Aye because thsrs what supports do ... attack their own club ??

I'll put it down to "language" and presume you meant "challenge" or "question" and in that I agree, thete are many things the club need to challenged over ... PR being one of them

[Young Bob 1,360]

2 minutes ago, Ace said:

Aye because thsrs what supports do ... attack their own club ??

I'll put it down to "language" and presume you meant "challenge" or "question" and in that I agree, thete are many things the club need to challenged over ... PR being one of them

Attack, challenge whatever but never. Thus far C1872 has been toothless since its inception when it comes to dealing with the club. Hardly surprising since its an organisation created by the clubs directors and their lackeys.

[Smile 26,610]

8 minutes ago, Ace said:

Aye because thsrs what supports do ... attack their own club ??

I'll put it down to "language" and presume you meant "challenge" or "question" and in that I agree, thete are many things the club need to challenged over ... PR being one of them

That's exactly what this board did to get in they got a group of supporters onside who would attack anyone including club reception staff.

[Ace 3,556]

1 minute ago, Young Bob said:

Attack, challenge whatever but never. Thus far C1872 has been toothless since its inception when it comes to dealing with the club. Hardly surprising since its an organisation created by the clubs directors and their lackeys.

There's a huge difference between attack & challenge IMO. 

[Young Bob 1,360]

Just now, Ace said:

There's a huge difference between attack & challenge IMO. 

I will still stick to attack then.

A James Blair type would challenge the clubs board in a moment of stupidity. When he was told to get his tail between his legs and vanish then he would remember his place.

[Virtuoso 27,180]

Club1872 should act as a share vehicle only, not proclaim to be the voice of the support or to hold the board to account.

What will make or break them is who the new board consists of. Any links to the club or the RST then it's fucked for good (Joanne Percival aside as she seems to be in it for the greater good, not herself).

There's a meeting tonight in the St Rollox bowling club at 1900 - not quite sure the point of it, but no doubt we'll get to hear about the proposed way forward when the minutes are released

 

[Young Bob 1,360]

3 minutes ago, Virtuoso said:

Club1872 should act as a share vehicle only, not proclaim to be the voice of the support or to hold the board to account.

What will make or break them is who the new board consists of. Any links to the club or the RST then it's fucked for good (Joanne Percival aside as she seems to be in it for the greater good, not herself).

There's a meeting tonight in the St Rollox bowling club at 1900 - not quite sure the point of it, but no doubt we'll get to hear about the proposed way forward when the minutes are released

 

Depends on the numbers. If they got up to ST numbers they could claim to represent thevsupport.

Regarding your RST / club comment. You will never be sure of the influence when you dont know the make up of these working groups and sub committees they are fond of.

They have enough of my money for now and wont see a penny more until I am satisfied its properly run with no interference from the renowned characters.

[Young Bob 1,360]

2 minutes ago, Detroit Lion said:

Is the meeting open to all or a members one? Im a relatively new subscriber to C1872. I do realise its not exactly running smoothly at the moment but do think theres still hope there.

From the posts on FF its open to former members too so I suspect anyone with an interest can attend.

[Ace 3,556]

28 minutes ago, Virtuoso said:

Club1872 should act as a share vehicle only, not proclaim to be the voice of the support or to hold the board to account.

What will make or break them is who the new board consists of. Any links to the club or the RST then it's fucked for good (Joanne Percival aside as she seems to be in it for the greater good, not herself).

There's a meeting tonight in the St Rollox bowling club at 1900 - not quite sure the point of it, but no doubt we'll get to hear about the proposed way forward when the minutes are released

 

Not sure if anyone from c1872 has been invited .. it's for members but maybe not board members.

Like you I'm not sure what good it will do without those who hold the reigns actually in attendance.

I think it'll turn into a JB bashing session & that would be a waste IMO.

**edit .. just seen it's for non members too**

[Virtuoso 27,180]

21 minutes ago, Young Bob said:

Depends on the numbers. If they got up to ST numbers they could claim to represent thevsupport.

Scrap C1872 and go back to the days of the RSA where every supporters club has one representative. If you're not in an RSC, then you can join as an independent.

Every rep (including a rep for the Independents) votes for a chairman and board for a 2 or 3 year stint. 

1 rep / 1 vote.

Simples 
 

[Young Bob 1,360]

Just now, Virtuoso said:

Scrap C1872 and go back to the days of the RSA where every supporters club has one representative. If you're not in an RSC, then you can join as an independent.

Every rep (including a rep for the Independents) votes for a chairman and board for a 2 or 3 year stint. 

1 rep / 1 vote.

Simples 
 

I remember it.

It still was in existance a couple of years back. Not sure now though.At that time it was a tenner to join as an individual.

Have a few old RSA membership cards at home which belonged to relatives.

I was represented through my SC.

[Gaz52 11,837]

1 hour ago, 55Bear said:

Good statement, but pointless if it's only our fans that get to see it. This needs to be put out in the mainstream media and backed 100% by the club

The Sun picked up on it and were sharing it round social media yesterday

[Young Bob 1,360]

15 minutes ago, Ace said:

Not sure if anyone from c1872 has been invited .. it's for members but maybe not board members.

Like you I'm not sure what good it will do without those who hold the reigns actually in attendance.

I think it'll turn into a JB bashing session & that would be a waste IMO.

**edit .. just seen it's for non members too**

I dont think it will turn into a JB bashing affair unless a lot of former members turn up.

He shouldnt be singled out , all the architects should get it. Including the sleekit ones who slink off into the background.

[Virtuoso 27,180]

5 minutes ago, Young Bob said:

I remember it.

It still was in existance a couple of years back. Not sure now though.

Unfortunately it was dissolved with the emergence of C1872 

[Bruno's Manbun 2,631]

1 hour ago, Young Bob said:

They have managed to get it in the Sun. SVL was set up to do the clubs work for them. My impression is its backed by the club otherwise it wouldnt see the light of day. If that is not the case then SVL should be attacking the club too.

 

5 minutes ago, Gaz52 said:

The Sun picked up on it and were sharing it round social media yesterday

Good to hear. Even if as above the club do already back it, can't see any harm in a backup statement from the board. C1872 is showing the fans support for the manager, a statement from the club would show backing from the board and help it carry more weight. 

[Young Bob 1,360]

Just now, Virtuoso said:

Unfortunately it was dissolved with the emergence of C1872 

Oh right. Wasnt aware of that. I guess it could be reformed if enough RSC showed an interest. That would be funny.

[Ace 3,556]

10 minutes ago, Young Bob said:

I dont think it will turn into a JB bashing affair unless a lot of former members turn up.

He shouldnt be singled out , all the architects should get it. Including the sleekit ones who slink off into the background.

If it turns in to huge bitch session thete will be no point yo the meeting, it's supposed to be about how you take c1872 forward .. into next season, next year & the years beyond it.

The time for recriminations need to be over, they NEED to be or what everyone sees (& puts most people off) is the constant butch sessions.

It needs to be positive thoughts & ideas about what to do next week/month/year.

 

[Young Bob 1,360]

6 minutes ago, Ace said:

If it turns in to huge bitch session thete will be no point yo the meeting, it's supposed to be about how you take c1872 forward .. into next season, next year & the years beyond it.

The time for recriminations need to be over, they NEED to be or what everyone sees (& puts most people off) is the constant butch sessions.

It needs to be positive thoughts & ideas about what to do next week/month/year.

 

I think if the architects are put in their place it will take it forward. If they continue with working groups / sub committees then it will stagnate. The old regime has to be ousted.

[CoopsLaud 4,186]

Can only see this as a strong positive statement from c1872.

Pity this wasnt how they started out and consistently came across then this whole shitstorm sirrounding them could have been avoided.

[thesins 68]

2 hours ago, Virtuoso said:

Unfortunately it was dissolved with the emergence of C1872 

No it wasn't, they held their AGM a few weeks back. They only have about 40 member club's though.

[Virtuoso 27,180]

6 minutes ago, thesins said:

No it wasn't, they held their AGM a few weeks back. They only have about 40 member club's though.

From C1872:

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The move also saw the dissolution of the Rangers Supporters Assembly and the Rangers Fans Board.

 

[thesins 68]

35 minutes ago, Virtuoso said:

From C1872:

 

To me the RSA is the Association. Do you think the Assembly was effective?

[D'Artagnan 13,319]

6 hours ago, Smile said:

If it was such a good idea and spoke for our own why did you jump ship?

Jumped ship ?

Do you mean when I resigned over a matter of principe and values & which I felt compromised the organisation ?

[D'Artagnan 13,319]

7 hours ago, Young Bob said:

And the independent  C1872 is not a mess? Down to one director last week . Those who operate in the shadow of C1872 and for that matter the RFC board are specialists at attacking anyone who gets in the way of their agenda.

Lets not start on the performance of the club directors since King took control.

I said  just over a week or so ago it had been an unmitigated shambles.

Its now up to 3 Directors with the re-engagement with Laura and Joanne.

So do you disagree with the statement they have issued - ie you dont feel there is a particularly toxic agenda led campaign against our manager, by certain sections of the media ?