DarcheVinny

PM a member of the team for questions like this please. Don't start new threads. Thanks.

Yes It is something I will be writing about next week.

So you decided to start a new thread?

Always imagine this myself. Along with Arsenal perhaps, we were potentially the best team in the world in the early 30's. You should buy the reprint of John Allan's second Rangers chronicle "The Rangers 1923-1934: Eleven Great Years" http://www.ebay.co.u...2012-/114023518 The accounts of our end-of-season overseas adventures are fantastic, as well as the rest of the content. The language of the time is enjoyable too. I have this and a reprint of the former "The Story of The Rangers, Fifty Years Football, 1873-1923" - which I haven't started to read yet. http://www.ebay.co.u...=item53f998d2c5 When I can afford to buy originals (approx £100 each), I will!

I was including European exits initially, but Smith had far-too-fucking many and I got fed up. Plus, Struth and Wilton didn't have the luxury of competing in Europe.

I say '1st', because as we all know, Rangers would not have played in the first round of either senior Cup competition for a number of decades before demotion. I shall include latter round where the Rangers made their first appearance in either the League Cup or Scottish Cup. I did not include the Glasgow Cup, nor the Glasgow Merchants Charity Cup, as most often they involved a semi-final for a 1st round match. Scottish Cup 1st Round, 1879/80 Rangers 0-0 Queen's Park Replay: Queen's Park 5-1 Rangers, Archibald Steel with the Rangers' consolation. Scottish Cup 1st Round, 1885/86 Clyde 1-0 Rangers Scottish Cup 1st Round, 1890/91 Celtic 1-0 Rangers Scottish Cup 1st Round, 1894/95 Rangers 1-2 Hearts, John Cowan scored for Rangers. Manager: William Wilton Scottish Cup 1st Round, 1900/01 Celtic 1-0 Rangers Manager: Bill Struth Scottish Cup 1st Round, 1936/37 Queen of the South 1-0 Rangers Manager: Scot Symon Scottish Cup 1st Round, 1966/67 Berwick Rangers 1-0 Rangers Manager: Davie White League Cup Group 1, 1969/70 Failed to qualify after 6 games, with qualification only granted to top spot: Celtic 10pts Rangers 9pts Raith Rovers 3pts Airdrieonians 2pts Manager: Willie Waddell N/A Manager: Jock Wallace Scottish Cup 3rd Round, 1974/75 Aberdeen 1-1 Rangers, Alistair Scott opened the scoring. Rangers 1-2 (AET) Aberdeen, Bobby McKean with the goal for Rangers. *Scottish Cup 3rd Round, 1985/86 Hearts 3-2 Rangers, McCoist and Durrant. *Second spell in charge. Manager: John Greig N/A Manager: Graeme Souness Scottish Cup 3rd Round, 1986/87 Rangers 0-1 Hamilton Academicals Manager: Walter Smith N/A Manager: Dick Advocaat N/A Manager: Alex McLeish Scottish Cup 3rd Round, 2004/05 Celtic 2-1 Rangers, Ricksen. Manager: Paul Le Guen *Scottish Cup 3rd Round, 2006/07 Dunfermline 3-2 Rangers, brace for Boyd. *Ian Durrant took charge of the team, as PLG had been sacked, but it was his team, so I attribute the loss to him! Manager: Ally McCoist League Cup 3rd Round, 2011/12 Falkirk 3-2 (AET) Rangers, Goian and Jelavic. League Cup 1st Round, 2013/14 Forfar 2-1 (AET) Rangers, Aird.

Relevant...

The Rangers’ CEO Has A “Football Matter” To Deal With

Take control of your career, Scott. If you want to be number 2, don't let anyone force you out on loan. If you want to go out on loan, make it happen.

No petty personal shite please.

Having just watched the excellent Swansea City documentary, I could weep at how our club is being run following demotion to the 4th tier (albeit Swansea were relegated fairly from top tier to 4th tier), in comparison to how the Swans turned themselves around following a fans' consortium buy-out. Ever since the newco asset purchase, we have been paying Monopoly money to 'directors', the playing squad and the football management team. The IPO money has been dwindled as poorly as I dwindled my 5 grand loan for a car when I was 19 (the car only saw 2.5k!!). On top of that, the embarrassing conduct of the people who run the club is not going to end any time soon - not until Green, Ahmad and whoever else sells up. However, will the club be able to avoid another insolvency event before this bunch want to sell up? I am not so sure. I am not happy, and as a shareholder, I do not have the slightest clue what to do about it...? When we had the chance to buy our club, we couldn't even get as far as pulling the right people together to sit around and discuss it. Did we fail our club? I am starting to feel that way. What stage will it get to, before we try to take control? Are we just going to sit and wait for administration again?

I've never listened to Radio Clyde. All should follow my lead. Thanks.

This one was flying around FB the other week.

That's nonsense. The membership of all three websites doesn't even stretch to 100,000. Do we only have 100,000 fans? Internet users are not the majority, and are not fully representative of the views of the whole support.

I don't want to forget this day

Great stat mate! I shoulda included that in what I posted above!

sober mate? Glad you enjoyed

Debut - April 20th, 1907, versus Kilmarnock at Ibrox. The Rangers lined up with: Alex Newbigging; James Jackson, Willie Henry; JIMMY GORDON, James Stark, John May; John McDonald, George Livingstone, Jimmy Spiers, Archie Kyle, Alec Smith. Approx. 2,500 people watched the Rangers beat Killie that day, thanks to a brace from Livingstone and final nail in the coffin coming from the famous Jimmy Spiers. In Jimmy's third game for the club, he played at Second Cathkin Park, which was the venue for the Glasgow Merchants Charity Cup final, as the Rangers beat their friendly rivals, Celtic, 1-0 in front of approx. 38,000. RG Campbell with the winner this time. For the majority of the 1906/07 season, the 'right-half' (I think) position had been filled by Josiah Gray, but the signing of Gordon seemingly signalled the end of Gray's Rangers career, as he never played for the club again following that after Gordon's debut. It is unknown what became of Gray thereafter. Wilton was clearly impressed with his new 'right-half' as Jimmy played there consistently until the latter half of 1908/09, when he actually started to move further up the field, as far as the 'centre-forward' position for the final three games of that campaign - which consisted of the 1st round, semi-final and final of the Glasgow Merchants Charity Cup. This was clearly a masterstroke by Wilton, as Gordon scored an incredible 7 goals, including a brace in the final against Celtic at Parkhead, winning his second Glasgow Merchants Charity Cup. Those 7 goals doubled Gordon's tally for the season, taking his record to 14 goals in 31 competitive appearances. This is all the more impressive when you consider that he only scored 2 goals throughout the entirety of the previous season. It was not until the 1916/17 season that Gordon would receive competition for his 'right-half' slot, when Peter Pursell (signed the previous season from Queen's Park, and 6 years Gordon's junior) moved out from 'centre-half'. Pursell's continued presence in the team restricted Gordon to only 7 competitive appearances that term. Gordon became something of a utility man in the two season's that followed, but still amassed around 40 appearances across various positions up to the end of 1918/19. Pursell left the Rangers for Port Vale at the end of the 1918/19 season, and for one last season (1919/20) Gordon would make the 'right-half' slot his own once more for the majority of the season - with 40 competitive appearances and 10 goals as the Rangers won the League again, beating Celtic to the crown by 3 points. However, it was a certain whipper-snapper by the name of Davie Meiklejohn who would fill the 'right-half' slot for the final games of that campaign... As we all know, the Rangers' first manager, William Wilton, would tragicly die in a boating accident just the day after Rangers were crowned as Champions that season, and trainer Bill Struth began his oh-so-famous managerial career. Unfortunately for Gordon, Struth's promotion would signal the end of his Rangers career, as he only played one (non-competitive) game for the new manager, which was a benefit match for Bert Manderson, against Celtic, which the Rangers won 2-1, with a brace from Alex Laird, in front of approx. 20,000 at Ibrox on August 30th, 1920. The aforementioned whipper-snapper was clearly highly thought of by Struth, and just as the young Jimmy Gordon had taken the place of Josiah Gray, the experienced and loyal Jimmy Gordon was moved aside to make way for a future Rangers captain, and Scottish football legend, in the shape of 'Meik'. A Rangers Hall of Fame entrant, and a true legend. Rangers career - 1906/07-1920/21 League Apps - 315 League Goals - 64 Major Cup (Scottish and Glasgow) Apps - 48 Major Cup Goals - 4 Minor Cup (Glasgow Merchants Charity and Victory) Apps - 26 Minor Cup Goals - 11 Friendly Apps - 58 Friendly Goals - 13 Honours - Division 1 (1910/11, 1911/12, 1912/13), Southern League (1917/18), Scottish League (1919/20), Glasgow Cup (1910/11, 1911/12, 1912/13, 1913/14, 1917/18, 1918/19), Glasgow Merchants Charity Cup (1906/07, 1908/09, 1910/11, 1918/19) Manager's - William Wilton, Bill Struth Apologies to Ali if any of the above is incorrect in anyway.

I will give you all full stats on Jimmy. Stay tuned...

Well, I'm blushing.

Oh aye? I've injured a knee tendon, so can't play at the moment. Nor sure whether to try play for someone this season, and coach when I can, or coach primarily and just play 5s.

For those of you that haven't been on the tour, it really is fantastic and I can't recommend it enough

I can get a game for this lot. Your pre-season started?

Rab and D'Artagnan in the dressing room pre-match?