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Ibroxholm

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  1. 3 minutes ago, LaaRFC said:

    Beale has said Tillman unwittingly done the wrong thing. That’s not calling him a cheat. 

    But he didn’t do the wrong thing.  He’s not a mind reader, he was simply aware and sharp enough to win the ball which is what I’d expect from a professional player.  

  2. Just now, KingKirk said:

    He didn't cheat the manager didn't call him a cheat either. 

    Beale addressed the cheat headlines are chip paper now. 

    Tilman would've been accused of being a cheat if we had won 2 1. I don't agree with what we done but I can see why beale done it. 

    Haven’t heard Beale’s interview only going what I’ve heard on hear. However, the very fact Beale has ordered the team to let Thistle score when the game is still in the balance suggests to me that he sides with the Thistle player on what happened rather than his own. 

  3. 1 minute ago, KingKirk said:

    He's protecting a 20yr old boy from being hammered in the media. Beale knows how it works so has done the right thing. I don't agree with it but can see why he's done it. 

    Don’t see how he’s protected him,  I think he’s hung him out to dry.  Tillman’s still going to criticised for it, even more so when his boss hasn’t defended his action of simply winning the ball.  It’s only Beale that comes out like the shining light of sportsmanship.  

  4. 1 hour ago, STEPPS BOY said:

    Lowry shouldn’t be playing B team football.

    It’ll be difficult to break into 1st team squad with players returning so try and get him a loan at a decent level.

    He’s only signed up until summer 2024, I’m sure.  A loan move could be counterproductive for us if he shows up well and gets other clubs interested (particularly if he sees limited opportunity to break into our first team).  
    We need to get him tied up for longer if we’re going to go down the loan option.

  5. 8 minutes ago, NeoGeo7 said:
    1. He's managed a total of 22 games as a manager/head coach, thats hugely inexperienced to get the Rangers manager positon
       
    2. Our play looked stale and tired before Gerrard left, the worry is we'll play the same way
       
    3. He has close ties with a number of the squad (many of whom are underperforming this year i.e. Tav, Kent, Goldson, Kamara, Alfie), the worry is personal relationships with these players means that they get played regardless.
       
    4. He's likely to be a yes man as far as signings are concerned whereas a stronger, more experienced, more traditional manager might have wanted a bigger say in the transfers
       
    5. His comments about loyalty and not being able to ask his players to be all-in if he wasn't and how he couldn't be the first to jump ship, a few weeks later he's swanning around Ibrox and the Louden and is more than likely to be taking over.

    That's my main gripe, not so much the form now at QPR. The trouble with the form is he hasn't had a full season in charge so we don't know if the form at the start was a false dawn or if this dip in form was a temporary blip.

    1. Any new manager appointment comes with a risk.  His limited managerial experience is a downside but a far bigger risk would have been to bring in a continental manager unfamiliar with the vagaries of the Scottish League. 
    2.  Its difficult to know what both Gerrard and Beale brought to the team management but I would suspect you are probably correct about our method of play against a side sitting deep.  On the plus side (and a big plus), I felt we had a lot more control of the game under him/Gerrard playing two no10s rather than wide men and we rarely got horsed in Europe and against them the way we did with Gio.

    3.  Could equally be seen as an advantage if he can get them to play for him.  
    4/5. At this point in time, we have no idea if he is going to be a ‘yes’ man.  As I said in another post, the recent visit could be an indication of how ruthless he might be to both get the job and in how he manages the team.  

  6. 7 minutes ago, Essandoh said:

    It simply cannot be the first time you’ve heard that mentioned. Re-read the thread even a few pages back and it’s mentioned numerous times. But if you insist…

    Turning up at Ibrox for a game on its own isn’t an issue, but the manner in which he did it (including a very public jaunt to the Louden to mingle with the fans) at the time in which he did (GVB job under threat) was not classy and certainly not professional. Nor was him openly belittling the job GVB and his staff had done that first season, proclaiming he’d never have let the gap slip etc etc (revisionist shite, wheels were falling off rapid).

    Speaking like he has about QPR following Wolves’ interest only to jump ship shortly after to us is very snakey behaviour and almost Gerrardesque (“Do I look happy?”)

    You could even go back to when he walked from us the first time and was happy to Instagram photos from the meeting with his agent that was arranging his exit, lovely glass of red only missing two fingers to the Rangers support. Need I go on?

    You could maybe argue against one of those things but you simply can’t deny his behaviour in recent months.

    Bit like Waddell sitting in his car outside Ibrox waiting for White to leave the building.

    I agree with you that his recent visit, on face value, doesn’t look very good.  It might just have been down to poor judgement on his part or, more likely, he wanted the job when it came up and was going to make sure all the right people knew.   This does show a lack of class but also a ruthlessness to get the job.  I’d be quite happy if he displayed the latter quality to bring us success in his managerial role (if it is to be him).  We need a ruthless manager to fight like-for-like with the opposition across the city.  

  7. 20 minutes ago, Rowley Birkin said:

    just saw on FF that keith jackson says that the team are divided by beale getting the job if so, it'll only get worse for him and us

    None of our players have shown they’re indispensable.   Don’t think Beale would get any negative fan reaction from getting rid of anyone who is not on board with him.  Would also likely be a positive for him, showing he’s not going to take any shit from any player(s) going forward.

  8. 11 hours ago, Colin Traive said:

    I get that but I think that guys like Davis (37), Arfield (34), Jack (31), McGregor (53) will be gone and we will have such a rebuilding job to do that we need to capitalise on any of our youngsters who have any signs of promise.

    Lowry, Devine, King, Ure, Lovelace, McCann all need to be properly assessed and given a chance or moved on.

    I also hope that Morelos, Kent and Kamara can be revitalised to the point where we at least get some money for them. If they get back to their very best, you’d never sell them tbh.

    Thats just another challenge facing the new guy.

    It’s really difficult to blood young players into the Rangers team because of the week in, week out demand to keep winning games.  We’ve seen that with King, who looks a good prospect to me, but has already been savaged by some parts of the support for errors he has made in games he really wasn’t ready to play in.
    Although, we are 9points of in the league, and it is probably unrealistic to believe we can pull that back, I can’t see the new manager being given much leeway in requiring to win matches between now to the end of the season.  In those circumstances can’t see youngsters been given too many opportunities.  

     

     

  9. 30 minutes ago, Real Ranger said:

    If we sack Gio how long do you give his replacement to turn things around if the injury list doesn’t get any better for him?

    If Gio had a full squad to pick from do you honestly believe we’d be where we are right now?

    I was of that opinion up to the last three games.  However, when the wheels come off, you need to take action otherwise you’re not going anywhere.

    I think he’s been unlucky with injuries, probably the end result of playing pretty well every midweek over the last 15 months. However, even with that, I don’t see any great signs he’s a particularly good man manager or has great tactical nouse (his numerous assistants don’t seem to help much in that regard either).

    I think we also have to look at Wilson’s position.  His signings have been poor in the extreme over the last year and, if Gio is to go, Wilson needs to be put on notice also.  (If a new manager came in, would you trust Wilson to bring in the necessary improvements).

    Lastly, we need to take a look at replacing many of the players, who have just been with us too long and, apart from the one season (behind closed doors), have consistently not turned up when the going got tough in the League and cups under both Gerrard and now Gio.

     

  10. 18 minutes ago, billscott said:

    well said  i could never understand the hype around lowry  i saw a lot of the b team last season and a few this season  sure the boy has talent but as blueoz said about his talent is only when on the ball the number of games i saw him where he  disappeared for long spells   as i said he has talent but he needs better coaching and better application

    We have a team at present who, in League games anyway, have around 70% possession and a ridiculous number of shots on goal and corners for little if any return.  Quite honestly, I really don’t care if the boy disappears out of games, I just want someone with a little ability and composure to put his foot on the ball and pick out a couple of passes that count.  If that means they only turn up for 5min, it’s an improvement to that which we’re seeing at present.

    Although he may not ultimately deliver on his potential, the boy has looked to provide something different to the water carriers and side/ back passing merchants we are watching week in week out at present time.  I honestly don’t care about his supposed ‘bad attitude’, I just want to see someone who might gives us something different to the dross we’ve been watching lately and a reason to go out on a winters night to watch it.

  11. 25 minutes ago, Finny said:

    I think the players have chucked it. Which is worrying considering they have previous. I'm pretty down about the team,management and club as a whole just now. 

    Although there were clearly issues last season, the speed of the downturn from the Europa Cup final has been dramatic.  Think a lot of it is confidence.  Even allowing for the fact we were playing teams above our level (at present anyway), the drubbings we took in the CL must have took its toll confidence wise.  Once that goes, the downward spiral can be dramatic.

    The amount of injuries and failure to recruit any regular starters during the summer also must have increased the malaise.

  12. 12 minutes ago, Big Al 55 said:

    I think we’re getting close now tbf.

    I think the amount of injuries we have and the cost of getting rid of him and his backroom team will see him survive to at least Spring.  League is probably gone whether we get rid or not so Board are probably weighing up the potential loss of couple of cups against giving him a few more months to see if he can turn it round.  
     

    Cost of getting rid will make it difficult to finance any newcomers in January.  Then again, with his future in limbo will they trust him to spend any money (or indeed Wilson).

     

     

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