Coopermania 1 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 How does that hit any nail? Either support something you may not agree with, or take someone on in a fight? The sort of macho posturing that led Blair to go into Iraq and Afghanistan in the first place. Anyone who disagrees with the actions of our government in their foreign policy adventures generally avoids disrespect to the troops who do the actual fighting, but I'm uncomfortable with the applaud our troops or fuck off attitude that's gaining currency. Britain now seems to be an 'either wear your heart on your sleeve or there's something wrong with you' type of place. I shall keep my tears well and truly in check, just the same, and my opinions on those who carry out political will by other means equally to myself. First of all, I was speaking for myself. Secondly, your opinion is your own and matters not to me. Thirdly, I think you need to take a chill pill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeBurn 57 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I don't care if it's true or not. I'll support the greatest troops on earth till the day I die. British Army British Navy British Airforce And every other branch out from them TA etc. It's a great story. I'll be wearing red every Friday until our Troops come home. God Save Our Queen and Country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueIsTheColour 35 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 How does that hit any nail? Either support something you may not agree with, or take someone on in a fight? The sort of macho posturing that led Blair to go into Iraq and Afghanistan in the first place. Anyone who disagrees with the actions of our government in their foreign policy adventures generally avoids disrespect to the troops who do the actual fighting, but I'm uncomfortable with the applaud our troops or fuck off attitude that's gaining currency. Britain now seems to be an 'either wear your heart on your sleeve or there's something wrong with you' type of place. I shall keep my tears well and truly in check, just the same, and my opinions on those who carry out political will by other means equally to myself. Poor show Andy, these men and women need the support of the entire nation. They are fighting an unwinnable war thousands of miles from home without asking any questions. Loyal to the core. The least we should be doing is applauding their sacrifice, especially when there is a vocal minority in this country who wish to demean them and their bravery. I think this attitude of "stand with them or fuck off" is a result of many years of the majority being subjected to our brave servicemen being constantly belittled and taken for granted. It is a show of solidarity and it is little more than the troops deserve. Coop is spot on, stand behind them or just try and stand infront of them. The choice is yours. Shows this country still has a backbone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,772 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 How does that hit any nail? Either support something you may not agree with, or take someone on in a fight? The sort of macho posturing that led Blair to go into Iraq and Afghanistan in the first place. Anyone who disagrees with the actions of our government in their foreign policy adventures generally avoids disrespect to the troops who do the actual fighting, but I'm uncomfortable with the applaud our troops or fuck off attitude that's gaining currency. Britain now seems to be an 'either wear your heart on your sleeve or there's something wrong with you' type of place. I shall keep my tears well and truly in check, just the same, and my opinions on those who carry out political will by other means equally to myself. Dear oh dear. Anyone who wouldn't take around 2 minutes out of there life to applaud one of our braves soldiers is a sad individual. Your politics has nothing to do with the fact the soldiers are there fighting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas_Flute 11 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 How does that hit any nail? Either support something you may not agree with, or take someone on in a fight? The sort of macho posturing that led Blair to go into Iraq and Afghanistan in the first place. Anyone who disagrees with the actions of our government in their foreign policy adventures generally avoids disrespect to the troops who do the actual fighting, but I'm uncomfortable with the applaud our troops or fuck off attitude that's gaining currency. Britain now seems to be an 'either wear your heart on your sleeve or there's something wrong with you' type of place. I shall keep my tears well and truly in check, just the same, and my opinions on those who carry out political will by other means equally to myself. Disgracefull comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer 11 2,648 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 British is Best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 9 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 How does that hit any nail? Either support something you may not agree with, or take someone on in a fight? The sort of macho posturing that led Blair to go into Iraq and Afghanistan in the first place. Anyone who disagrees with the actions of our government in their foreign policy adventures generally avoids disrespect to the troops who do the actual fighting, but I'm uncomfortable with the applaud our troops or fuck off attitude that's gaining currency. Britain now seems to be an 'either wear your heart on your sleeve or there's something wrong with you' type of place. I shall keep my tears well and truly in check, just the same, and my opinions on those who carry out political will by other means equally to myself. I don't think the troops out there fighting give a shit about politics. They just care about trying to stay alive so we at home don't need to try. You'd do well to remember and appreciate that rather than using a political agenda which has no place in praise of these soldiers. So yeah, I think applauding or praising our troops or fucking off seems a fair choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andypendek Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 As you wish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 277 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I had a lump im my throat when relaying that story there WOW Never mind the ins and outs of the war. They are there now so lets get behind them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macleod1873 0 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 What a fantastic spine shivering article Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kplfishtank 4,667 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I had a lump im my throat when relaying that story there WOW Never mind the ins and outs of the war. They are there now so lets get behind them. couldnt agree more let the soldiers do theyre job and let the politicians deal with the rights and wrongs home safe to the troops Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,772 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 As you wish. Your comments were more of ones I would expect from the darkside to try and cover up there hatred of the Brittish Army than from a bear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby 41 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 great story - as a dad of a young lad i was fighting off the tears (unsucessfully) Politics is politics, but the troops are OUR troops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,714 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Support The British troops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KERRZO 5 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 That is a great story. Put aside all of the politics of war and these troops are the pride of our great nation, fighting for our freedom. Support the troops Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,714 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 We should wear Poppies every Friday, saw a saw guy driving a top of the range Merc today and he had a large metal Poppy on the front grill, looked impressive ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloonosed 14 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 it was good that they got a heros welcome ...it was hellish seeing those islamic extremists roasting the anglican soldiers . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jardy 0 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 fantastic ryan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saudibear 0 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Red shirt for me tomorrow. Apart from the enormous sacrifice our troops go through for our freedom, we should show that same support for their families left at home worrying about them and show just how much we appreciate their sacrifice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanMac 185 Posted April 30, 2009 Author Share Posted April 30, 2009 It was sent to me by my father-in-law who has served 22 years in the forces. A man who has seen more death and more horrors than most of us care to think about, but as he told me the hardest thing he has ever had to deal with is the dismay of the British public towards him. After all he is out there risking his life to let these people live the lives they do. Theses people who show their own political agenda by taking it out on our troops really are the cancer that has seen our once great nation fall to what it is now. You really ought to be ashamed of yourselves. I, for one, will show my full support of our troops even if i don't agree with the reason they are there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCR1 1,532 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Super post mate Really touching story Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,772 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 It was sent to me by my father-in-law who has served 22 years in the forces. A man who has seen more death and more horrors than most of us care to think about, but as he told me the hardest thing he has ever had to deal with is the dismay of the British public towards him. After all he is out there risking his life to let these people live the lives they do. Theses people who show their own political agenda by taking it out on our troops really are the cancer that has seen our once great nation fall to what it is now. You really ought to be ashamed of yourselves. I, for one, will show my full support of our troops even if i don't agree with the reason they are there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRICKY1872 118 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 How does that hit any nail? Either support something you may not agree with, or take someone on in a fight? The sort of macho posturing that led Blair to go into Iraq and Afghanistan in the first place. Anyone who disagrees with the actions of our government in their foreign policy adventures generally avoids disrespect to the troops who do the actual fighting, but I'm uncomfortable with the applaud our troops or fuck off attitude that's gaining currency. Britain now seems to be an 'either wear your heart on your sleeve or there's something wrong with you' type of place. I shall keep my tears well and truly in check, just the same, and my opinions on those who carry out political will by other means equally to myself. Simply turn your back on them on Sunday then mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budswiser 196 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 call me a cynic but the story seems a little fabricated What would anyone gain from fabricating such a story? Attention. A little dramatic license helps their cause and if their story is believed it will inspire folk to buy into their campaign. Nothing wrong with a few white lies in order to drum up support for a good cause, but I wouldn't take the basic story at face value. A sad day if thats the case, but I,m willing to give the benefit of any doubt. I may be naive but I dont go with that angle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andypendek Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Well, I was certainly willing to keep out the road since you all were so hurt/annoyed by my post, but I won't accept being labelled a cancer. If you bring subjects which involve politics into the bears den, then you must accept that on occasion another poster may disagree with you. I could go on until midnight regarding the politics of this subject, but what would be the point? If you seperate what the soldiers do from the politics, then that's your viewpoint. I don't, and that's my viewpoint. I can take chastisement with the best of them: being a Republican, Nationalist, Atheist Socialist I've had plenty worse on here down the years. As for this: Theses people who show their own political agenda by taking it out on our troops really are the cancer that has seen our once great nation fall to what it is now. You really ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Utter shite. I've never hidden my own political agenda, Christ knows people moan about it enough. I am not, however, taking anything out on our troops. Do I stand by the road booing them as they march home? No. Do I call for them to wash their blood stained hands or something like that? I don't. Given that a lad I like a lot has recently returned to the armed services, and is 3 weeks away from being posted abroad to either Iraq or Afghansitan, can't recall which, that would be utter hypocrisy. I do not approve of our interventions in either country and I don't see how killing people in either place can lead to a better future. Anyone want to enlighten me I'd be most grateful. But I won't bullshit and say Gawd Bless ya lads, but fuck those politicians. If you're pulling the trigger you're not helping is my view, and if this subject is to be raised than that's my voice. Ach, fuck it, you can always ban me if you want. Good luck CF who used to work in Johnstone Morrison's, wherever you are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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