Crozier 0 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13127427.stm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Disgraceful comments from Ally there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,043 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 traditions this, history that blah blah blahour long time servant and upcoming new manager wants this to happen now, what a confusing situation we find ourselves in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelavic. 13 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Has the "unacceptable songs" list been published yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSifter 181 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 He should stick to raising money for Roman Catholic charities that practice active discrimination in the third world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelavic. 13 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Has the "unacceptable songs" list been published yet?No, and i'm pretty sure it wont be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50ShadesofBlue 667 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 He doesn't want fans arrested. He wants people who break the law and give the club a band name arrested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 No, and i'm pretty sure it wont be.So are we to be prosecuted on the whim of those who pretend to be offended dependant on how their team are getting on?Because this 'offence' seems to disappear when Celtc are winning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,268 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Hypocrite we've all heard ally and and the rest of the 9 in a row squad sing these songs but I guess that's conveniently forgotten about now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 He is merely defending his club.Those who carry on the sectarian singing are doing far more damage to Rangers than the tims ever could.Ally, like most of us, would rather they wised up and stopped rising to the timmy bait and started singing something else.I don't like it any more than the rest, but it's a reality. Keep singing and Rangers will be playing european games behind closed doors til we get banned altogether.One way or another, the sectarian singing will stop. I'd rather it was voluntary, out of respect for the club, than forced by the law or UEFA.The tims WANT us to keep singing it. The more we do it, the better as far as they are concerned. If you want to dance to their tune then keep up the sectarian songs.If you really do want to get it up them, sing something that pisses them off but they can't greet about. Use a bit of cleverness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdasyn 431 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I can't believe folk on here are turning on McCoist for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Maybe it's time to bring back 'Ally, Ally, get tae fuck'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Hypocrite we've all heard ally and and the rest of the 9 in a row squad sing these songs but I guess that's conveniently forgotten about now.It still is. In every Ranger, it is in their heart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram 1,919 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 What Sectarian Songs does he want us arrested for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 What Sectarian Songs does he want us arrested for?Fair point, but just calling for Bears to be arrested over singing is the real crime here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 What Sectarian Songs does he want us arrested for?'Erm...erm...erm...erm.' There is one fascinating fact in all of this: not once has anyone threatened Court action; no they want Uefa to deal with it- because the know The Law would want nothing to do with it. Yes, individual breaches of behaviour come into it, but the actual songs being deemed illegal is something that will not be happening anytime soon. I would love someone at the Club, if they could ever be bothered and cared enough that is, to threaten the autonomy of Uefa over this issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spangles 7 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Benches rang to sound of The SashRON MACKENNA6 Jun 1996A controversial judicial career is examined by Ron MacKenna INSISTING an accused sang The Sash in court was bad enough, but when the learned sheriff sang two versions himself, loudly and from the bench, Scotland's senior judges were less than impressed. The Sash incident is perhaps the most memorable in Sheriff David Smith's career, and was described as ``deplorable'' by three appeal court judges, but it has been by no means the only controversial incident. The sheriff, nicknamed the Ayatollah, was in hot water in 1985 over remarks he allegedly made about striking miners at a social gathering. It was claimed he had lost his objectivity after having told a defence solicitor that he knew what he would do with miners, and also words to the effect ``I'm bloody sure they will not be getting legal aid from me''. Somewhat inevitably, the comments came back to haunt the sheriff during the trial of striking miners some time later. After the matter was raised, the sheriff said he was ``flabbergasted'' that a private conversation at a social gathering should be used as a legal submission. He left the bench for 20 minutes to consider the submission then returned saying he had taken an oath to do right to all people without fear or favour, affection or ill will and he did not propose to disregard that - and continued. When the matter came before the appeal court it was sufficiently concerned to overturn the convictions of 14 miners dealt with by the sheriff. The court said there was nothing to indicate the sheriff had, in fact, acted unfairly during the trials. However, justice should not only be done, but be seen to be done. It concluded that a reasonable person, on hearing the sheriff's remarks, would have concluded he was biased in cases involving miners. In 1989, Kilmarnock and Loudoun MP Willie McKelvey urged an inquiry into the judicial regime at Sheriff Smith's court, claiming that youngsters were being given jail sentences when an alternative would have been suitable. It was also revealed that more than twice as many cases involving 16 to 20-year-olds resulted in custodial sentences at Kilmarnock, where Sheriff Smith was one of three sheriffs. More recently, the sheriff was warned over his failure to produce reports for appeal court judges. Lord Sutherland, who was sitting at the Justiciary Appeal Court with Lords Cullen and Wylie, said he did not know the precise circumstances, but it was essential in the interests of justice that sheriffs produced reports as required by law. The Sash incident arose during an assault trial before the sheriff in 1985. Evidence had been given during the trial that the victim had been singing a version of The Sash - a sectarian song - and the accused was asked by the sheriff to sing it. When he refused, the sheriff insisted - saying it was vital for evidence - before singing two versions himself from the bench. On appeal, Lord Ross, the Lord Justice Clerk, said that what the sheriff had done was ill considered and wholly out of place. He said: ``A judge must also preserve the dignity of his court and his calling. The sheriff here did not act fairly to the complainer. He sought during the trial to hold him up to derision and he must have caused him acute embarrassment.'' However, despite their concerns the appeal court judges refused to allow the accused's appeal, stating it had been an isolated incident and the trial had still been fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcheVinny 1,003 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 He doesn't want fans arrested. He wants people who break the law and give the club a band name arrested. If I was going to give the club a band name, I think I'd go for 'The Bear Pack' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackCarter 2 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Any form of sectarianism should warrant an arrest. Ally is spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Ally is defending his club for crying out loud. He is spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Any form of sectarianism should warrant an arrest. Ally is spot on.Just a shame he would not ask for the arrests of the people using racism in the tunnel at Ibrox. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Any form of sectarianism should warrant an arrest. Ally is spot on.Serious question here - Would you class someone calling me a H** as being sectarian? And if so, do you think that person should be arrested? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 dont need to read the whole thead, i can guess ally has to go now, take all the surrenderers with them, leave rangers to the real fans eh, some of the posters on this board dont have a scooby, of course he is gonna look to be pro active like many others, but as soon as summit is said its all cast away as some sort of attack on the fans, giz peace folks, ally is a legend with the CLUB interests at heart, bunch oh fannies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralCartmanLee 313 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 The full interview from Monday, that this was taken from, he expands on his view instead of just the sentence the BBc have used to cause controversy (tabloid reporting from the beeb…well I never).Only the permanently angry and offended would be...well angry or offended by his remarks... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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