the goal machine 7,804 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 How has Petzschner not win a set? Everytime he gets close, he comes up with a new way to fuck it up.Neither men are playing well and it's making it entertaining. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GF John 169 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Isner v Mahut on BBC2 now.Wonder how they've kept it up all this time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordo 33 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 Isner - Mahut back on, wonder if it will be as long a match as last time Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-RFC 308 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 How has Petzschner not win a set? Everytime he gets close, he comes up with a new way to fuck it up.Who knows!?My bets led a charmed life so far Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,804 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Who knows!?My bets led a charmed life so farJammy bastard Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 18,989 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 First off all Sampras competed in an era with more than just Agassi. Don't forget the likes of Edberg, Becker, Lendl, Courier and McEnroe(4 years)Obviously it's hard to compare players from different eras in all sports and so many factors need to be considered. But I do believe those named are much more top players than the likes of Murray, Soderling, Ferrer etc.Bit in bold is something I disagree with, as I said to you in another thread Sampras was much more than a power player. In the last 5-10 years I would say tennis is much more based on the physical aspect and having big power shots/serve. Roger's serving and power is very underrated and is a key factor in his success. Are you implying Federer ended Pete Sampras reign? Sampras won the US open then basically stopped playing and eventually retired in 2003. Federer had not even won a grand slam by then.I am aware Sampras played great players, although most of those you mentioned (Edberg, Becker, Lendl, McEnroe) were coming to the end of their careers when Sampras became the dominant force.Of course Sampras wasn't just a power player in the Karlovic sense, like Nadal he was a fantastic player with the ability to play terrific winners from anywhere, but also like Nadal his preferred method was ultimately percentage play and dominate with the serve. You have a point that today a power baseline game is quite prevalent but this would seem to me to be an instance where Federer has been the exception rather than the rule, thankfully. In the face of players content to play baseline rallies until their opponent shanks it or hits the net, Federer dominated with sheer brilliance.And I said he "signalled" the end of Sampras' career. Which he did. A 20 year-old kid who ended an unstoppable run at Wimbledon where Sampras had lost one match in 8 years. I didn't say Federer suddenly appeared and won everything, we all know he took longer than expected to breakthrough properly, but Wimbledon 2001 was a giant-killing. The 2002 US Open was a last hurrah for Sampras after he had the stuffing kicked well and truly out of him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-RFC 308 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Thats it fuckedFuck you Soderling Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordo 33 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 Isner - Mahut looks like it could be another long one, no breaks of serve yet. Isner won the 1st set on a tie-break. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-RFC 308 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Im backing Petzschner now Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordo 33 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 I've jinxed the Isner - Mahut match, Isner wins the 2nd set 6-2. Looking like an easy win now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordo 33 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 Order of play for tomorrow:Centre Court: Venus v Date-Krumm, Nadal v Sweeting, Roddick v Hansescu; Court One: Berdych v Benneteau, Murray v Kamke, Kvitova v Keothavong. Weather forecast.... dodgy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SasaFknPapac 9 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Murray not even on Centre Court doh Unbelievable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordo 33 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 Isner wins in straight sets, what a let down Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 18,989 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Murray not even on Centre Court doh Unbelievable.Roddick has more than paid his dues at Wimbledon and deserves a match on centre-court. A rotation system seems fair. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SasaFknPapac 9 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Put Nadal on Court 1 then, or even better, the woman's match. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 18,989 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Put Nadal on Court 1 then, or even better, the woman's match.Nadal is the defending champion and world number one. Venus Williams is a five-time champion. Murray is the obvious bump, even if he is the home favourite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SasaFknPapac 9 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I couldn't really give a fuck what Nadal has done, Murray is the British No.1 who more people would want to see, get him on Centre Court where he belongs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SasaFknPapac 9 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Actually I don't know why I let you off with the Roddick reason. The guy is turd now, and has no chance of winning.Whereas Murray is right in there with a chance, and believe it or not, is higher ranked and is British. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,804 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Actually I don't know why I let you off with the Roddick reason. The guy is turd now, and has no chance of winning.Whereas Murray is right in there with a chance, and believe it or not, is higher ranked and is British.Wouldn't say Roddick had no chance when he took Federer to 5 sets in the 2009 final.And Murray's chances aren't that much better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SasaFknPapac 9 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Wouldn't say Roddick had no chance when he took Federer to 5 sets in the 2009 final.And Murray's chances aren't that much better.Andy Murray's chances are far better, hence the demolition in Queens.He isn't the same player he was then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,804 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Andy Murray's chances are far better, hence the demolition in Queens.He isn't the same player he was then.Murray's obviously a better player but I still wouldn't rate either players chances that highly. The top 3 are so much better than the rest. Including Murray. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 18,989 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Actually I don't know why I let you off with the Roddick reason. The guy is turd now, and has no chance of winning.Whereas Murray is right in there with a chance, and believe it or not, is higher ranked and is British.If Murray is in with a chance he'll be back on centre court soon enough then. And Andy Roddick, three time finalist and something of a crowd favourite in his own right will have his little moment on the big stage again and that will be nice for everyone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 18,989 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I couldn't really give a fuck what Nadal has done, Murray is the British No.1 who more people would want to see, get him on Centre Court where he belongs.Speak for yourself. I'm no big Nadal fan, as I've mentioned here already, but I'd rather see the world's best current player over Murray any day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRodgA2k8 542 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Yet they could easily hinder Murrays chances by having his match delayed by the rain and then have him potentially play back to back games...talk about helping your countries best hope of winning Wimbledon Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordo 33 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 Yet they could easily hinder Murrays chances by having his match delayed by the rain and then have him potentially play back to back games...talk about helping your countries best hope of winning Wimbledon That's the only downfall to this. If the Centre Court matches finish quick then I'm sure they could put Murray on Centre under the roof. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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