MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 I wish we could have two match threads, so the death is imminent gang could slit their wrists in peace. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 I wish we could have two match threads, so the death is imminent gang could slit their wrists in peace.It's actually pathetic.I think some people have just missed moaning about everything and anything Rangers in the off season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotBear 144 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 I really can't believe some of the reaction to this result. The result does not knock my confidence one little bit. And similarly, if we had won 3-0 it wouldn't have raised my confidence either. You simply can't read anything into friendly matches.We've still got the foundation of a 3 in a row squad in place, that means a hell of a lot more than a couple of friendly results. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Surely that just emphasises the exact opposite of what you keep implying?I already said exactly that earlier yesterday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 And look what happened to Le Guen after that .We win the games that matters if we lose to blackpool and chelsea so what The Domestic competions and the champions league to show the SPL is our aim.I already said the exact same thing earlier. You cant really read anything into friendly results. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 17,386 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Have had a quick trawl through the thread, but can't see if this has been mentioned....anyone know what formation Ally's been playing....is it a 4-4-2?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 We are lacking an out and out winger to just get by someone and fuck the ball into the box for our strikers to get on the end of , not pissing about taking 109 touchesWylde? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Wylde? No. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultras 18 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Just watched the highlights from this game, can't tell you anything we already know. We need new players and we need them now.Jelavic seems to of been just off-form the past 2 games, missing quite a few good chances he would usually score but we do need a partner like Miller or Goodwillie for him. Naismith, Davis, Whittaker and McGregor seem to be the only players putting in a good shift and performance.The defence is just a fucking shambles, embaressing. Every goal we have conceded in the past 2 games have been down to their terrible defending and mistakes. 1st goal Weir showing his age and the striker takes the ball past him far too easily and its a easy finish for him, 2nd goal terrible pass from Papac right to their striker just infront of the half way line and Broadfoot, Weir and Papac are all miles too slow to catch him(Whittaker was the opposite side of the pitch, had no chance) 3rd goal the Bochum player stood in the box with the ball for about 5 seconds before anyone even dared think about closing him down and he just slotted in his team-mate, Weir made a poor clear off the line and they scored the rebound.100% need new defenders. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Just watched the highlights from this game, can't tell you anything we already know. We need new players and we need them now.Jelavic seems to of been just off-form the past 2 games, missing quite a few good chances he would usually score but we do need a partner like Miller or Goodwillie for him. Naismith, Davis, Whittaker and McGregor seem to be the only players putting in a good shift and performance.The defence is just a fucking shambles, embaressing. Every goal we have conceded in the past 2 games have been down to their terrible defending and mistakes. 1st goal Weir showing his age and the striker takes the ball past him far too easily and its a easy finish for him, 2nd goal terrible pass from Papac right to their striker just infront of the half way line and Broadfoot, Weir and Papac are all miles too slow to catch him(Whittaker was the opposite side of the pitch, had no chance) 3rd goal the Bochum player stood in the box with the ball for about 5 seconds before anyone even dared think about closing him down and he just slotted in his team-mate, Weir made a poor clear off the line and they scored the rebound.100% need new defenders.Likewise. From what I watched I'd say the following.1. Jelavic needs a partner, Naismith is not a striker, he is best coming from the midfield. 2. Broadfoot, McCulloch and Weir should all be on the bench.3. Apart from Whittaker our defence looks horrible, Sasa has looked terrible during Pre-Season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Likewise. From what I watched I'd say the following.1. Jelavic needs a partner, Naismith is not a striker, he is best coming from the midfield. 2. Broadfoot, McCulloch and Weir should all be on the bench.3. Apart from Whittaker our defence looks horrible, Sasa has looked terrible during Pre-Season.Nothing new then, even last season we knew all this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultras 18 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Weir should just give up, seriously. Hes already played a season too much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Nothing new then, even last season we knew all this.Maybe not, but it's hard to comment when you haven't seen or even heard much about the game. I know it's only pre-season but Sasa was at fault for a few goals.Hemmings looked good from the tiny bit of footage of him ! I'd start him with big Jela and replace Wylde with Naismith for Leverkusen. Give him a chance playing with the 1st team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Maybe not, but it's hard to comment when you haven't seen or even heard much about the game. I know it's only pre-season but Sasa was at fault for a few goals.Hemmings looked good from the tiny bit of footage of him ! I'd start him with big Jela and replace Wylde with Naismith for Leverkusen. Give him a chance playing with the 1st team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 There was also nothing of Ortiz shown, apart from him putting a cross in.Our fullbacks worry me, we lose too many goals from there. Sasa may be decent, but he needs to quit letting balls in !!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irwin Sparkes 97 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Have to disagree completely with the guy who said Naismith has proved he isn't a strikerWhen has he ever had a run of games up front for us? Even in the much talked about 4-3-3 around Christmas 2007, he was played as a left sided attacker/winger Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Have to disagree completely with the guy who said Naismith has proved he isn't a strikerWhen has he ever had a run of games up front for us? Even in the much talked about 4-3-3 around Christmas 2007, he was played as a left sided attacker/wingerI wouldn't say 'Naismith is shite at playing striker' I just think he's most effective coming from the midfield making bursting runs, and playing in and about 'the hole'.I would prefer him not to play striker and hope that we could bring one in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgowsBlue 329 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Anyone got the highlights for this game ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 We have lost four goals in two games and Sasa has been at fault for one goal, the second yesterday.The 1st goal Papac let his man get a cross in far too easily ! It's been a problem imo, for a long time and we lose too many goals from it ! You could even argue that the man who pulled away from everyone at the Corner for the 3rd was Sasa's man.But to lie all the blame with him is ridiculously harsh, but he certainly hasn't played well and has been at fault for 2 goals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultras 18 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Juanma seems decent. Only saw small bits but he reminded me a tad of Novo. Pacey, very direct but not afraid to get in about it.Caught him blessing himself, us big bad prods will of course not stand for that and have a major protest about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Thought Weir was more at fault for the first goal, left the striker free in the box then dived in, player skipped by him. This has happened a few times in preseason.Sasa could have closed the winger down more but looked reluctant to dive in in case he got beat. The third one I don't think you can blame Sasa because he had to come inside to mark a player who had been left unmarked behind Weir. Spot on that he has not played well, but outside McGregor and possibly Whittaker none of our players have.I find it hard to comment that much as I did only see 10 minute highlights so will wait on the lads who were over in Germany saying how they saw it.But yes, I think Davis looked okay, but imposible to tell in highlights ! But on the goals it would definitely seem our defence is just out of sync, awkward and shite. It certainly seems to of effected Sasa as he was playing superb at the end of last Season ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Obviously it's hard to tell from small highlights but think it's pretty obvious going by the reports, commentary and the text updates that we got outplayed yesterday and only created one or two chances. Davis is meant to be our best midfielder who many regard as our creative spark, he should be getting on the ball and making things happen. Seemed like most his work was running about, working hard. Although that is his best attributes tbh.It's only friendlies so it does not actually matter.To an extent of course, I'd be hoping for a better display against Leverkusen but won't hold my breath. I'd just like to see/hear of us going through the gears attacking wise and score a goal or two and I'd be happy, the central defence right now don't worry me hugely as I know/hope/pleadingly wish they won't be the ones starting for us against Hearts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 In an ideal world we would be performing and winning these games comfortably. Hoping to see the Leverkusen game live, surely some German tv company will show it since it's a big attraction? Or so it should be...Totally agree with you mate, really don't wanna see Kirk or Davie at CB or McCulloch in the first eleven. Just hope Ally does know he needs more than one defender and should sign another 2 at least. Still can't fathom with the likes of Healy, Kerkar, Weir, Little have been given deals.What would you say about a tweak in formation? I'd like to see us try a 4-2-3-1 as it can be very flexible.'It bit players' I'd like to of seen the back of them, but I agree apart from Healy I wouldn't of kept any of them on. Only Healy for cheap back-up and morale, seems the type who understands Rangers.We need quality and that's a fact, I want to see players being bought for our starting 11, not for the bench !!I'm not sure, I would love that formation but I don't think we have the quality for it right now. McGregorMcMillan Whittaker Weir PapacMcCulloch DavisOrtiz Naismith WyldeJelavicI don't think Wylde could play that role well, and I'm not sure about Ortiz either and fancy Davis up the pitch more. McGregorWhittaker *New* *New* *New**New* *New*Naismith Davis *New*JelavicI think if we were to play that we'd need even more players, of course I wouldn't mind Ness, when fit playing CDM and even Hutton but is it too much of a risk playing them both together? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kplfishtank 4,657 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 was awful to watch and thank god there was a beer tent or we wouldnt have lasted the full game Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 It's actually pathetic.I think some people have just missed moaning about everything and anything Rangers in the off season.There was far too much good news came from the club last week.Some folks just canny handle so much positivity in the one week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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