thebooler 4,509 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Celtic have no legal recourse in the matter, Sion do.So if Sion were re-instated, and then the courts found in celtics favour, celtic would have no recourse on the issue?Would they not be able to claim lost revenue due to having been kicked out illegally? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 My head hurts.Mine anaw cos these cunts seem tae be in a no lose situation here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,742 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 UEFA have never recognised a Court of Law and I dont think they ever will.It's a disgrace that a footballing body thinks they are above the law of the region in which they are domiciled. Anyways, I think a previous poster has covered it off that the Swiss Court ruling today was simply an injunction against the EL starting without Sion until a full hearing is completed into the merits of whether Sion broke transfer rules or not. UEFA will be sued for ignoring the ruling and be forced to pay money at the very least to Sion.To summarise, FUCK UEFA.Although tbf I dont give a fuck, Atletico are going to pump these pretentious bastards on Thursday and Im going to enjoy watching it.of course they have recognised a court of law before. The bosman ruling came from court and look at the disaster that caused football. Imo courts should stay the Fuck out of footballing matters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 It will be moved up the the Court of Arbitration for Sport, but due to how UEFA have handled it, it will be decided after thursday. Therefore if Sion win (and they should win, as domestic law takes precedence) they have the right to sue both UEFA and Celtic.Great! They get pumped in all 6 games, they play catch up wae us every Sunday, and then they get fucked with a heavy fine as well?Things could messy here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Sion have had the aappeal booted out by uefa it's on ssn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klos 39 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 It will be moved up the the Court of Arbitration for Sport, but due to how UEFA have handled it, it will be decided after thursday. Therefore if Sion win (and they should win, as domestic law takes precedence) they have the right to sue both UEFA and Celtic.So the mhanky mob may end up with a tired demoralised squad due to three european pumpings and could lose any financial gain from it as well, fantastic!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintonGrey 365 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 So if Sion were re-instated, and then the courts found in celtics favour, celtic would have no recourse on the issue?Would they not be able to claim lost revenue due to having been kicked out illegally?Sorry, I should have rephrased, in that specific matter Celtic would have no legal recourse to challenge the CAS. In the situation you describe they would. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klos 39 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Sion have had the aappeal booted out by uefa it's on ssn.SSN are only quoting cetics statement at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Sorry, I should have rephrased, in that specific matter Celtic would have no legal recourse to challenge the CAS. In the situation you describe they would.Cheers mate. I wasn't sure if that's what ye were meaning or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 17,440 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 They're in, they're out.....jeez. It's like the Hokey Cok....oh, wait!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintonGrey 365 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Sion have had the aappeal booted out by uefa it's on ssn.To be frank, UEFA were always going to boot it out. The real test comes with FC Sion's appeal to the Swiss Court System and the subsequent pass over of the case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Where has the "Corinthian spirit" and "sporting Integrity" gone in the modern game? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
linfield1690 4,249 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 To be frank, UEFA were always going to boot it out. The real test comes with FC Sion's appeal to the Swiss Court System and the subsequent pass over of the case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.Any idea if this will happen this could get very complicated Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madina 3,868 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 This has been one almighty mess from start to finish. Makes a mockery of the game when 2 days before the scheduled match Athletico dont know for sure how they are playing Would love to see the tims at work's faces if they are booted out Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmond7 1,076 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 What should have happened, at the very worst, is that the Madrid match should have been postponed until the whole thing was sorted out. In fact what should have happened is that the whole thing should have been sorted after the first leg, or even at the registration process. Just think of the poor bloke who does the Madrid programmes, does he just put Atletico vs TBA, no-one ever thinks of that poor blokes job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintonGrey 365 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Any idea if this will happen this could get very complicatedIf Sion get the backing on the Swiss course system for a Court of Arbitration for Sport case, UEFA will get laughed out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 What should have happened, at the very worst, is that the Madrid match should have been postponed until the whole thing was sorted out. In fact what should have happened is that the whole thing should have been sorted after the first leg, or even at the registration process. Just think of the poor bloke who does the Madrid programmes, does he just put Atletico vs TBA, no-one ever thinks of that poor blokes job.Or whether they need tae order in a couple of thousand pies in anticipation of playing Sion, or will they need 70,000 tae cater for the mass exodus of sellik fans? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madina 3,868 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 According to yahoo sports the tims have been cleared to play Athletico. Sad to say but I cant see Sion getting back in now Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintonGrey 365 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 According to yahoo sports the tims have been cleared to play Athletico. Sad to say but I cant see Sion getting back in now They wont get back in.However, legally, they will probably be able to sue UEFA and Celtic after the CAS case (assuming of course the verdict goes in Sions favour but I have explained that circumstance before). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 of course they have recognised a court of law before. The bosman ruling came from court and look at the disaster that caused football. Imo courts should stay the Fuck out of footballing matters.Sorry, I should have been clearer. They've never recognised a domestic court of law before. Bosman won in the Belgian courts but UEFA refused to recognise the rulings, therefore he took it to the ECJ and they were then forced to accept. In this case, if Sion take it to the CAS and win then UEFA must accept it. I dont think football should think of itself as being above the law. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelf 1,153 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Ok then. If a local sheriff court in scotland finds me not guily of singing a certain song but Uefa find Rangers guilty of singing same song is that not Uefa making their own laws? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintonGrey 365 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Ok then. If a local sheriff court in scotland finds me not guily of singing a certain song but Uefa find Rangers guilty of singing same song is that not Uefa making their own laws?Did you take it to the European Court of Human Rights? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelf 1,153 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Ok then. If a local sheriff court in scotland finds me not guily of singing a certain song but Uefa find Rangers guilty of singing same song is that not Uefa making their own laws? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintonGrey 365 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Ok then. If a local sheriff court in scotland finds me not guily of singing a certain song but Uefa find Rangers guilty of singing same song is that not Uefa making their own laws?I know it's a double post, but I'll expand.In this case, if you took it to the European Court of Human Rights (if you were charged as an individual), UEFA would have to throw out their ruling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelf 1,153 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Did you take it to the European Court of Human Rights?It was a what if question mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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