McCoist72 0 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Could Bartley be an accomplished right back given time?I don't think Whittaker or Broadfoot are good enough to be honest but I think Bartley would be good in that roll and he did well there against Motherwell. He can defend, he is a strong guy and he has pace. Our biggest problem in recent months has been a lack of pace and with Wallace and Aluko providing pace on both wings, Bartley on the right in attack just adds more pace. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 No. McMillan should be in there for now, but we definetely need a new right back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 It's something he'd need to get used to and I'm not sure we can afford him that time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCoist72 0 Posted January 4, 2012 Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 No. McMillan should be in there for now, but we definetely need a new right back.I would play McMillan at right back as well but I just don't see Ally playing him as things stand. But, right back is definitely a position to look at at this moment in time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I would play McMillan at right back as well but I just don't see Ally playing him as things stand. But, right back is definitely a position to look at at this moment in time.I agree, i am sick of us shoe-horing players into unfamiliar positions, also i dont rate big Kyle as much as some of our fans do. Vastly over-rated on here. Maybe Ally has been told if he wanted Kyle he had to play him? Somewhere, anywhere. Has he been on the bench yet when he has been fit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 He should be used as a CB when needed, that is his position.I don't think he looked comfortable at all, most trouble came down his side.I could see Foster coming in and Broadfoot leaving.Edit - Also, McMillan should have started at RB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamMunny 3,395 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I dont rate Whittaker or Broadfoot at all and I'd get rid of both this window. McMillan deserves his chance with Bartley providing cover. Bartley isn't a right back and we have to look after our own players before others. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 The guy is never a right backBocanegra when at Fulham had a wee stint at RB - iirc?EDIT - Just looked it up, it was LB Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgowsBlue 329 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 He's better at CB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland 76 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 The guy is never a right backBocanegra when at Fulham had a wee stint at RB - iirc?EDIT - Just looked it up, it was LBFulham mainly played Boca at LB that's why I was confused when we were starting him at CB Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketFuel 0 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Better off playing him and CB I'd say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkiBunny 441 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I'd try anything that means 'we' don't have Broadfoot or Whittaker in the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,766 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 It's something he'd need to get used to and I'm not sure we can afford him that time.Totally agree. He drifted inside a lot, & as another poster said, most trouble came down his side & he didn't get forward all that much. Whittaker's attacking side's been woeful this year (Hertz apart), kirk's lost whatever he had in that sense, we don't need another Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Bartley looked out of place at Right back for me - and I do understand it was his first game - but he is a loan player and I was dissapointed that if we needed cover there that McMillian did not start there. However I am happy with either Whittaker or Broadfoot in that position and one thing Whittaker does have is pace. So its no thanks for Bartley at RB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amcewan 1 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Bartley is not a right back, or a midfielder. He should be 4the pick centre back if Weir leaves and 5the pick if he doesn't. Or better still send him back to Arsenal, they have defence problems. Ah right, they would never consider him either. He has height and long legs but not much else. He is far too impetuous. He was better than nothing before We signed Goian, Boca and Weir this season but just clogs up the squad now as it seems to be in his loan deal that he plays when fit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueben_d 40 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I thought there was less trouble down the right back area with Bartley than there has been with Whittaker or broadfoot. But you could counter that with the fact there was less trouble in general, I actually thought Higdon caused the most problems by winning every high ball against bocanegra.Bartley is no right back though and I agree with the calls for McMillan, round peg round hole and all that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamRangers 12 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Noooooooooooooooo!We need to stop crow barring players into other positions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JograBear 1,075 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Bartley is NOT a right back. Is there some sort of virus going around that makes people want to play players in their unnatural positions? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Mustard 380 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Players have always been moved into different positions, some of them very successfully.Our ECWC winning team had a world class right back who had played just about every position on the park before that.That team also had one of our greatest centre forwards playing centre half, and silky midfielder Davie Smith playing sweeper, which was his best position...and where he later won Scottish POTY.John Greig would in later years convert to LB, and Derek Parlane who replaced Greig in midfield for the semi final at Ibrox against Bayern, would become an accomplished striker with the Gers.It's not always a bad things for players to be tried in different positions than the one they/we think they are best in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I agree, i am sick of us shoe-horing players into unfamiliar positions, also i dont rate big Kyle as much as some of our fans do. Vastly over-rated on here. Maybe Ally has been told if he wanted Kyle he had to play him? Somewhere, anywhere. Has he been on the bench yet when he has been fit?I'm guilty of that, I think he's going to be a tremendous player. He's got a fair bit to learn, and although I liked him winding up broonaldo in the tunnel, he needs to keep a lid on it in the game a bit. He's not a natural right back, but I think he did quite well on Monday, both defensively and as an outlet for playing from the back when McGregor had the ball in hand. It's a shame to see our own young players overlooked for a loan player though, particularly in McMillan's natural position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Jordan McMillan is a better RB than Bartley and he should be playing ahead of him and Broadfoot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JograBear 1,075 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Jordan McMillan is a better RB than Bartley and he should be playing ahead of him and Broadfoot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Monday's game against Motherwell was tailor made for Whittaker.They barely attacked us and having his attacking nous from right back would have helped.Perhaps Bartley did a really good job and we just didn't notice it though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 In what way is Bartley vastly over rated on here, iv read it in this thread yet have still to see anyone doing so, remember he was out for a while and last season did a turn but I don't think anyone is saying he's the dogs danglies, certainly able Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
novosalegend 2 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 AS i HAVE said befor play papac and wallace at full backs i know they are two left backs, but its not much different at the end of the day dennis irwin was a class left back for man utd where he played 99% of his career and he was a natural rb and played their for ROI Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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